Panasonic 7~14mm or Olympus 12mm ?

Started Jan 18, 2013 | Discussions thread
jim stirling
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Re: Thanks for all the replies and suggestions

Anders W wrote:

jim stirling wrote:

Anders W wrote:

jim stirling wrote:

Anders W wrote:

wazu wrote:

Coincides with my reasoning also. The Panasonic 7-14 is an


What do you mean and is that positive or negative?

Hi Anders,UWA lenses are exotic in the sense that they make up a tiny percentage of all images taken .To use an UWA lens more than other focal lengths you would need to be working in an ironically narrow niche.

Sure. But the comparison here was with the 9-18.


Could you please provide an example of a lighter UWA zoom that goes as wide?


It is the second most expensive lens in the system only out priced by the 35-100

Quite a few others come to mind, going by the prices at B&H: 12-35, 75/1.8, 17.5/0.95 and 25/0.95. Lenses with strong specs cost money.

I believe neither of us lives in America nor does the OP or wazu for that matter .so I based prices on where I am located as other than illegal imports the USA prices are not available to us as the tax man will cometh.

I bought by my 7-14 at B&H, and quite legally mind you, with NY tax and all. And if we go by Swedish prices at what I think is our biggest online store for photo gear (cyberphoto), the 12-35 as well as 35-100 remain more expensive than the 7-14. Yet you bought them both, if I recall correctly. How come? And that 14-24 of yours didn't come all that cheap, right?

I didn't even count the voightlanders as they are so rare and in fact the 25mm is cheaper than the 7-14 and the 17mm within 5% 0f the price of the 7-14

Could you please provide an example of a significantly cheaper UWA zoom that is as wide, fast, and performs as well.

That does not change the fact that it is expensive , there are few who would not consider an £850 lens expensive. For most people I suspect expensive is an absolute term , specifically related to a the actual price. As opposed to a comparative term when compared to other lenses in or out of the system.

See above.

See above

prone to purple flare

I am not so sure your particular scenario would be particularly prone to flare as the sources of light in it are tiny in the image and would thus be very easy to correct in post. Whereas the original images that seemed to start the discussion would be a far more difficult to stop flare

clump that won't take filters easily

The point here is that they might be expected to cause problematic flare but didn't. I didn't correct this picture for flare in PP.

I don't think that an image with such tiny lights would be adversely prone to CA

The problematic flare isn't CA in the first place.

Well it is still problematic and a lot less likely to appear in your sample image scenario.

What filters would you want to use with it?

While the field of view is to wide to use polarisers due to the uneven effect across the image . I have a number of filters I use on my 14-24 including various ND filters which are actually very useful for my interest of landscape photography.

See my response to wazu above.

Because there are other more convoluted ways to achieve the effect of an ND filter does not change the value of their use and how does your method work for video ?

I don't think the method I suggested is more convoluted. Merging is simple these days if you have the right software and as I pointed out, the solution I suggest saves me the trouble of carrying a tripod, setting it up, and fiddle with a filter.

And why would I want an ND filter when shooting video with the 7-14?

ND filters are such an essential bit of kit for videography that they are in fact built in to many high end video camcorders. Using ND filters to help control shutter speed is as useful on the 7-14 as it would be on other lenses for the same scenarios. Or are you asking specifically why “you” would want one , which in that case I do not know

. It doen't work well with Olympus.

Exactly what doesn't work as well with Olympus?

Is this lens effected by CA which is obviously corrected on a Panasonic body while not being corrected on an Olympus body.

See my response to wazu above.

So it is a very real problem to JPEG shooters then

Yes, all Oly OOC jpeg shooters have the problem that the camera doesn't software-correct lateral CA, no matter which lens is used. And not only the 7-14 but also the 9-18 benefit from such correction.

I wasn't aware that the Olympus bodies don't correct CA even on their own lenses

Now, for declarations sake i do not own the E-M5 or the 7-14 and I am thus merely playing devils advocate

I realize that.

Sorry its a quiet Saturday afternoon , my boredom threshold got the better of me

I can see that.

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