Need a new calibrator?

Started Jan 4, 2013 | Discussions thread
Vernon D Rainwater Forum Pro • Posts: 13,895
Re: Sorry if I am a huge Pain!

jtoolman wrote:

Craig wrote:

I just calibrated my screen using the color munki display.

Let me tell you this thing made a huge difference. MY display went from a blueish tint to a much warmer color.. wow.

Did I not tell you your screen was too blue so you were eiditing the blue out by adding yellow to neutralize the blue?

So the stinking eye1 display 2 that I have is no good... Here again I thought it was working and it is not and I was producing too warm colored prints. Duhh.. Piece of junk. I have no idea if it ever worked properly,, I doubt it.

So do I keep this or do I send it back and get the munki photo version? I found a place for $399 anyone see it cheaper anywhere?

YOU WILL NEVER REGRET getting the color version. ( Sorry for the shouting but just making sure you get me ) You will have to rip my CM Photo from my cold dead hands!!!!

I need to know if when you calibrate for the printer which profile does it change? If the adjustment is done to my display that may not be good since I have lab prints made for my albums and it would be printer specific.

They are TWO SEPARATE Profiles neither one has anything to do with the other. The new monitor proflie will load automatically everytime you start your machine. DO NOT EVER assign the monitor profile to your image files. It only tells the monitor what R,G and B should look like and combintaions of those three colors. It's a lot more complicated than that but no real need to get into that unless you are a color engineer.

When you create a paper / printer profile you are basically creating an intruction file that will tell your R2000 how to CORRECTY reproduce any color value it sends to it.

That's why when your CM Photo sends the first set of color patches ( composed of VERY specific color values, saturations and densities ) you print that set of patches directly from the CM without ANY alteration AND with COLOR MANAGEMENT turned off at the printer driver, and the correct paper type and quality chosen, you print it.

The printer then says, I should print thisand that color like so, which will VERY LIKELY be wrong. Then when you scan those printed color patches the CM will read the printed values and it will KNOW how far off this way or that way the rendered printer color patches are when compared to the original value sent to it. Once it figures that out, it will then produce a secondary set of color patches that you print which the same identical driver settings and scan those again. The CM will then through some heavy duty processing create the final profile file. The CM will automatically store it in the correct HD location for you.

So then later on when your printer recieves an image file containing a multitute of different color values it will now how to correct how it thinks the various ink colors should be mixed in order to reproduce them correctly.

I am impressed how well this worked and I can see on my screen where if I go through my prints just using the Hue slider I can tweak out a lot of the yellow.

I am going to adjust a few pictures and see how they print out now..

Craig, all I can tell you is I told you so! I always though my monitor was correctly set as well till I discovered the CM Photo. I was shocked. From that point on I can print to any of my 15 printers without a even a thought. If and when you move up to CM Photo, you will look back at this time and laugh!!!!


I have read every post in this thread and it has been both interesting and Exasperating.

Surely, anyone that is having difficulties that compare to Craig's would be convinced that the final solution would be to use the (many times suggested) Colormunki Photo (CM Photo) for their Monitor Calibration and generating Printer/Paper Profiles.  Yes, it adds more expense to the entire Photography process -- whether for business or for a personal Hobby.  However, just subtract the invested time and waste of ink and paper and the net cost would probably be close to $0.00.

I firmly believe that if all the time invested in the posts (in this thread) were at $0.10 (ten cents) an hour -- that it would more than pay for the CM Photo.

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