Installing OS on SSD from HDD

Started Dec 1, 2012 | Discussions thread
jamesdak Veteran Member • Posts: 4,858
Re: Or, try it with an unpartitioned SSD...

Jim Cockfield wrote:

Or, just use MS Disk management to remove anything on the SSD, and try both methods with an unpartitioned SSD (remove anything on it first) and see if that works.

That's the way the Dell Datasafe Recovery program normally works (you don't need to have anything on the SSD, and it creates what's needed during the restore process).

So, because it's already got an MBR and NTFS partition on it, that could be causing your issues with both types of programs (using the Dell DataSafe Recovery media, or trying to move the OS partitions to it using third party Wizards).

But, I would make sure your BIOS is setup properly first before creating recovery disks. See page 370 in the wiki I linked to.

Then, see if Dell Datasafe will restore to an unpartitoned SSD. or if the Move OS to SSD Wizard in that free partition manager will copy the install for you. If not, try making it a GPT disk and see if it works then.

Jim Cockfield wrote:

I don't think you're understanding me.

There is a separate setting for enable Legacy ROM, even with EEFI set.

One thing that bugs me is that you said Secure Boot was already disabled on your machine.

That doesn't sound right, since Microsoft requires that PCs that are certified for Win 8 have Secure Boot enabled by Default. Are you sure you're looking at the correct settings in your BIOS for it.

Look at page 370 of this "Wikies Beta2 .pdf file and make sure your settings match up to the changes suggested by it's author before you create your recovery media.!19607#cid=568353F266EABD9C

Secure Boot: Disabled

Legacy Option ROM: Enabled

Boot List Option: UEFI

Your BIOS may be slightly different. But, you should find similar options.

As for the free utility to move partitions complaining about not working with GPT, it looks like there's a conflict in their description of it. It can work with GPT disks, but it can't convert one from MBR to GPT (although their Pro version can, the free version can't). See the feature comparison here:

If you look at the free version's "Key Features" Tab, you'll also see that it supports GPT. The free version just can't convert a disk from MBR to GPT.

So, since you've already created a partition on your SSD (which would have used a standard MBR and partition table versus GPT by default), you'll probably need to go into Microsoft Disk Management, delete it, and convert the disk into a GPT disk to copy your hard drive install to it using the free version of that software. See the instructions on this page to do that:

So, you may want to see if that works first before messing around with the Recovery Media (convert the SSD to a GPT disk, then see if the free version of this software works using it's Wizard to move the OS to an SSD).

OK and the BIOS is different than what is said here and on page 370 of the Wiki.  Here are my settings for Boot:

USB Boot Support :enabled

System Mode state: user

Secure Boot state: disabled

Secure Boot: disabled

Load Legacy Oprom: enabled  Only option available

Boot mode: UEFI

and then just the boot sequence.

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