This is gonna upset some of you.....

Started Nov 5, 2012 | Discussions thread
Rick Knepper
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Please accept my apologies too.

RomanJohnston wrote:

Rick Knepper wrote:

xrdbear wrote:

Rick Knepper wrote:

RomanJohnston wrote:

Rick Knepper wrote:

Then post your newbie-ass BS on the crop forum where folks need the validation even if it is false. What do you [possible hope to gain from such a ridiculous comparison?

What do you hope to gain by being so unnecessarily rude?

I was trying to be helpful in my first post because he does not appear to know the first thing about digital imaging and maybe you do not either. But was his repsonse to my initial post not belligerent and rude to begin with?

Here's his response (which you conveniently chose to omit):

"Oh please...I got a shot of the entire falls in my D300 as well. This is just the one I processed. This is not about crop...its about quality...any lens can be bought for either system to get the desired results."

This entire paragraph is a ridiculous statement which he will quietly distance himself from over time.

What I hope to gain? that he will think twice next time about posting a smart-ass response to me or anyone else who is trying to help him.

That was help? Maybe I misunderstood. I have been here helping people in the forums including this one (D2H and D2X in the past) for quite a few years. My work stands on its own two feet....

Simple point is that gear does not matter as much as so many misunderstand. I thought the output of both cameras on a scene I have recorded with a Hassy MF back (40 MP at the time), Now D800, D300, D2X, D2H, D70

Will post all that I have later....I was most interested in the MF and the D800 comparison that I will post soon. These just happened to be the first ones I processed. So will provide more later.

My apologies if I seemed a bit snarky .


Yes, that was help. You cannot make a reasoned argument from the two images posted without defining what it is you consider "compelling" and you haven't done that so far.

Here is some more advice that I hope you do not take the wrong way. You are obviously well known in this forum so maybe others who know you filled in the blanks from knowing where you stand on the many topics that abound in this forum. I do not know you so I could only assume from the text presented, rightly or wrongly, that these mis-matched photos were evidence that you have a ways to go in understanding the benefits of high resolution and digital imaging. The point being that you forced an assumption.

When posting to a forum with tens of thousands of participants, to avoid misunderstanding, it is advisable to be as explicit as possible, in this case, defining the term "compelling results". First thing I learned in English Composition (or the first thing that made an impression on me at least) was never to make assumptions about what your readers know. Also, using the DPR profile to list your current and previous equipment and possibly a short bio might have influenced my initial response (though understanding digital imaging doesn't require one to ever have picked up a camera). Being a great communicator with images doesn't necessarily spill over to the written word (not that I am implying anything about your general skill with written composition).

Equipment does matter. For example, I do not see many Leica M9s in the hands of professionals at sporting events. The weapon of choice for landscape is MF. Etc etc. When MF format in digital form becomes affordable for me, I will bid farewell to 135. It's okay to use a D300 to shoot landscape but it is less than productive for anyone to delude themselves that that camera is can do what a D800 can do technically and operationally.

So, let me see if I understand the OP now. Let's say Roman is shooting a porno scene with the D300 and D800, I probably would not be offended by having to look at the D300-produced images. In fact, there may even be some advantage with it's reach and all though a nice, juicy crop from a D800 file might offer more resolution. Bottom-line being that my first reaction to such photos would not be about IQ. Is this on track?

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