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My daughter is in a riding competition tomorrow. It should be bright south florida sunshine, and riding in a sand filled ring. This may make it very bright overall for shooting. Is it better to use exposure bracketing or just shoot -1to 2 ev overall to underexpose a little and changes stuff later in PS? ( or is it + ev for underexpose, always get that mixed up, but you know what I mean).

That, and would my uv or polarizing filters be helpful in this? I just thought that underexposing slightly will prevent blowing out highlights due to the rider wearing so much white, the sand and all. The horse is dark, but there is a lot of sunshine and reflection.

I also plan to shoot continuous low, either matrix or center weighted. Any ideas on this or hints to do better from you more experienced people out there?

Harris

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Harris
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Doc, if it were me shooting with my 995 in bright sunlight I'd shoot in matrix mode, underexpose -.2 ev, turn in cam sharpening to off, add a little saturation and contrast, and fire away knowing I'd need very little adjustment later. With the 995 it's amazing how using these settings does the trick, and absolutely zero blown highlites. If the pics actually are underexposed it isn't but a wee little bit. Of course, I have no clue how they would work with a 57, but it might be worth a try. Just remember if you shoot into that sun ain't nothing gonna help those much lol.
God Bless,
Jim
CP995, CP800
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http://www.pbase.com/jrj02
 
In addition to the above thread I would bring my polarized filter and watch that the apeture setting is not too big (small "f" value can cause more blown highlights).
Good Luck! :)
Backdoctor said:
My daughter is in a riding competition tomorrow. It should be
bright south florida sunshine, and riding in a sand filled ring.
This may make it very bright overall for shooting. Is it better to
use exposure bracketing or just shoot -1to 2 ev overall to
underexpose a little and changes stuff later in PS? ( or is it + ev
for underexpose, always get that mixed up, but you know what I
mean).

That, and would my uv or polarizing filters be helpful in this? I
just thought that underexposing slightly will prevent blowing out
highlights due to the rider wearing so much white, the sand and
all. The horse is dark, but there is a lot of sunshine and
reflection.

I also plan to shoot continuous low, either matrix or center
weighted. Any ideas on this or hints to do better from you more
experienced people out there?

Harris

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Harris
Cp5700, N6006
Pbase Supporter
http://www.pbase.com/backdoctor
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I'll give it a go and practice on someone else, then see how it looks and try. Thanks for the fast response.

Harris

P.S. Will keep the sun to my back
Jim said:
Doc, if it were me shooting with my 995 in bright sunlight I'd
shoot in matrix mode, underexpose -.2 ev, turn in cam sharpening to
off, add a little saturation and contrast, and fire away knowing
I'd need very little adjustment later. With the 995 it's amazing
how using these settings does the trick, and absolutely zero blown
highlites. If the pics actually are underexposed it isn't but a wee
little bit. Of course, I have no clue how they would work with a
57, but it might be worth a try. Just remember if you shoot into
that sun ain't nothing gonna help those much lol.
God Bless,
Jim
CP995, CP800
icq#47512307
http://www.pbase.com/jrj02
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Harris
Cp5700, N6006
Pbase Supporter
http://www.pbase.com/backdoctor
 
Bracketing is overkill I think. a slightly underxpesed image is muchmore workable than one that is blown out. There NO pixels to adjust there. I normaly use Spot but on a dark horse spot may force overexpossure due to the camera thinking the dark hoese needs to be lightened to 18% reflectivity. (Netural gray) I'd shoot sone test shots using the steeings I just recomended. and make sure it is enough but not to much comp.

You may be oferthinking this. I have learned one thing about the 5700 for sure, unless you have "STRONG" backlighting or forground lighting the 5700 does a good job metering exposures except for the very bright areas shcu as sky or white walls tec. that are directle lighted. This is where -.3 or -.6 is usefull seldom is more comp. needed.
Do some test shots and you'll do fine!

Good luck, I wish I were there, I love shooting those things, we have one here around August I might try this year.
Backdoctor said:
My daughter is in a riding competition tomorrow. It should be
bright south florida sunshine, and riding in a sand filled ring.
This may make it very bright overall for shooting. Is it better to
use exposure bracketing or just shoot -1to 2 ev overall to
underexpose a little and changes stuff later in PS? ( or is it + ev
for underexpose, always get that mixed up, but you know what I
mean).

That, and would my uv or polarizing filters be helpful in this? I
just thought that underexposing slightly will prevent blowing out
highlights due to the rider wearing so much white, the sand and
all. The horse is dark, but there is a lot of sunshine and
reflection.

I also plan to shoot continuous low, either matrix or center
weighted. Any ideas on this or hints to do better from you more
experienced people out there?

Harris

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Harris
Cp5700, N6006
Pbase Supporter
http://www.pbase.com/backdoctor
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from the show. I had a lousy place to shoot from with the sun about two oclock to me. Also it was at a position where I did not get a lot of good shots with her close, I was using a fair amount of zoom.

Of to Sunfest in West Palm Beach to see America, the old rock group





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Harris
Cp5700, N6006
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it really helps to shoot from -.3 to -1.0, depending on the situation. It prevents blown highlights doing that. I shot a lot at Sunfest with performers on stage with spot and colored lights on them. If I didnt use at least -.3 and in most cases -.7 ev, there were badly blown highlights. The same for the horse show.

Here are a couple of shots from concerts, realize I had to shoot at 400 iso with noise reduction, using full zoom, and at times digital zoom with the B300 on. I still used - ev on all shots:

Big Bad Voodoo Daddy - it was dusk, notice the guy with the D100 in the right lower corner, he was familiar with the 5700:



John Mayer - full zoom with the B300 at -.7 ev



America - full zoom with B300 at -.3 ev



So the moral of this is use a little -ev and you can do well with PS post processing.
Backdoctor said:
My daughter is in a riding competition tomorrow. It should be
bright south florida sunshine, and riding in a sand filled ring.
This may make it very bright overall for shooting. Is it better to
use exposure bracketing or just shoot -1to 2 ev overall to
underexpose a little and changes stuff later in PS? ( or is it + ev
for underexpose, always get that mixed up, but you know what I
mean).

That, and would my uv or polarizing filters be helpful in this? I
just thought that underexposing slightly will prevent blowing out
highlights due to the rider wearing so much white, the sand and
all. The horse is dark, but there is a lot of sunshine and
reflection.

I also plan to shoot continuous low, either matrix or center
weighted. Any ideas on this or hints to do better from you more
experienced people out there?

Harris

--
Harris
Cp5700, N6006
Pbase Supporter
http://www.pbase.com/backdoctor
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Harris
Cp5700, N6006
Pbase Supporter
http://www.pbase.com/backdoctor
 
Backdoctor said:
Here are a couple of shots from concerts, realize I had to shoot at
400 iso with noise reduction, using full zoom, and at times digital
zoom with the B300 on. I still used - ev on all shots:

Big Bad Voodoo Daddy - it was dusk, notice the guy with the D100 in
the right lower corner, he was familiar with the 5700:



John Mayer - full zoom with the B300 at -.7 ev



America - full zoom with B300 at -.3 ev



So the moral of this is use a little -ev and you can do well with
PS post processing.
Backdoctor said:
My daughter is in a riding competition tomorrow. It should be
bright south florida sunshine, and riding in a sand filled ring.
This may make it very bright overall for shooting. Is it better to
use exposure bracketing or just shoot -1to 2 ev overall to
underexpose a little and changes stuff later in PS? ( or is it + ev
for underexpose, always get that mixed up, but you know what I
mean).

That, and would my uv or polarizing filters be helpful in this? I
just thought that underexposing slightly will prevent blowing out
highlights due to the rider wearing so much white, the sand and
all. The horse is dark, but there is a lot of sunshine and
reflection.

I also plan to shoot continuous low, either matrix or center
weighted. Any ideas on this or hints to do better from you more
experienced people out there?

Harris

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Harris
Cp5700, N6006
Pbase Supporter
http://www.pbase.com/backdoctor
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Harris
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http://www.pbase.com/backdoctor
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Wow, are those guys still around? I saw them in concert in 1976 and they were old then (i wasn't).
Good pics and thanks for the ev info.
Steve

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Steve,

Here's one more of them, not as sharp, but lighting on this stage was not as good as John Mayer. There are 3 stages going at one time, the one Mayer was on was the main stage, this was a small ampitheater, half the lights. They were great, great voices and great musicians:



I still havent had time to do post processing on most of the shots. It was a 5 day event, and I went to 4 days while still going to the office, and shooting my daughters competition.

Harris

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Harris
Cp5700, N6006
Pbase Supporter
http://www.pbase.com/backdoctor
 
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