Why no focus issues with D5100 or D3100 compared with D7000

Started Oct 28, 2012 | Discussions thread
phiri Contributing Member • Posts: 969
Re: A solution

dirtdiver82 wrote:

Mako2011 wrote:

dirtdiver82 wrote:


I'm also aware that my Panasonic FT2 has a crappy 1/2,3" 14MP sensor that has a much greater density than the D7K and has much worse colors, DR, etc, BUT you can take a picture with one hand on a sunny day and despite the noise, the poor colors, etc it's tack sharp.

The Panasonic FT2 is a CDAF only camera. To compare realistically you need to shoot the D7K in Live view only (comparing focus).

BTW, to confirm a focus issue with the D7K, a proper CDAF vs PDAF comparison will show it or rule it out.

I wasn't comparing focus accuracy, that's another story... This isn't about D7K AF, it's about how the system handles the vibrations caused by the mirror and the shutter itself.
I wanted to point out that while some people justify the D7K small amount of motion blur in handheld shoots at certain shutter speeds due to wrong shooting techinque acquired with lower pixel density Nikon DSLRs, my FT2 has in fact a much higher pixel density and never experienced this problems.

Of course compacts are different species, but you can't justify this behaviour just because of a bit higher pixel density. Vibrations affect to every DSLR, only that in the D7K to a higher extent.

Seems there're more people concerned with this problem:

"To my eyes the D7000 exhibits mirror slap blur in those photos starting at 1/4, reaches its worst at 1/30, then has tapered off to barely noticeable at 1/125. I don't know if I'd classified it as "bad" because I don't know what the standard should be relative to other DSLRs but compared to the D5100 the D7000's blur seems rather pronounced (I don't see blur on the D5100 photos at any of the tested shutter speeds)."
http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/thread/3031067

I"s this really mirror vibration or is it shutter induced vibration? I found that shooting at high frame rates with my D7000 actually reduced apparent vibration induced softness compared to slow shutter speeds, which is counter-intuitive to the mirror slap theory as the cause. After experimenting with my D7000 at various shutter speeds and using mirror lock up on a tripod, I came to the conclusion that the shutterslap vibration was more of the softness culprit at slow shutter speeds than mirror slap. I also found that anything that added mass (like the vertical grip with battery), to the camera reduced vibration induced softness at slower shutter speeds. A high quality tripod and head really makes a difference as well."
http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/post/41245214

But also another way to look at it is to review your handholding techniques. When somebody was giving tips on handholding techniques, I thought he was carzy but then I realized with different handholding techniques particularly at certain shuter speeds, it makes a difference between a blurry and a sharp photo.

You will realize also that when many people complain about blurry pictures on the D7000, the lenses mostly used are fast primes. Why? they dont have VR. Many people use VR as default on the zoom lenses.When I use zooms, VR is only used when the shutter speeds are low. So when they switch to primes, it requires a different technique to achieve better results.

Now that I am siwtching to primes only, I remember the first time I went shooting with the 35mm only and the pictures were not that better per say. I realized another important factor is the ergonomics of the camera/lens combo. If for instance one is used to shooting a D7000 with 16-85VR and then you switch to 35mm f1.8 or 50mm f1.8, you have to adjust your handling of the camera lens combo. With each lens you use, you have to adjust your handholding techniques and adjust camera parameters such as shutter speeds accordingly. Otherwise there is no point to keep on complaining.

This is my rationale. When people using the same equipment as I have are getting better results, there are only three likely scenarios. The technique is subpar, the camera is faulty or a combination of both. But to address the issue you have to tackle the first two one by one. The first should be normally to assess your technique but usually people blame the camera first. That is why people can afford to exchange 7 camera bodies in a row.

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