Just Gave Notice -- Wish Me Luck!!

stock photography
Yeah, I'm thinking if I can maintain my own stock library ... it seems like diversity is the key to a sucessful photog business ... if I can market myself and have enough photos from different locations, with different subject matter, and so on ... that's less business I'll have to turn away.
 
Safe corporate job? hmm. Not sure such a thing exists...
Well, this is the only part of your post I don't agree with! I've been doing very well here, plenty popular enough, just got promoted, and I built most of the databases that drive the Finane dept, and some of the ones that Marketing relies on. I'm the only person who intimately knows how they work. Job security is alive and well here. ( Which means it's more than likely I'll still do some consulting work for them to help pay the bills. )
There are a lot of costs involved in launching any business. You
make out a budget, including health care, food, rent/mortgage,
auto, all the business operating costs, etc., and then see if you
can foresee making the hurdle. While health care is a big chunk, it
probably won't really turn out to be the deal breaker.
Right. And then there's more; the most expensive thing for most businesses is getting new customers.

Everything below is very good advice:
If you're going to have a local presence, check out the Chamber of
Commerce. Many of the chapters provide access to group rates for
their members (and members' employees). The rates are certainly
higher than the portion one normally pays in a major corporation
health benefit plan, but they are a lot better than what you can
get solo. On top of that, the chamber events will give you many
oportunities to make contacts that turn into real business for you.
I'm trying to launch a corrosion consulting business, so the
average chamber member is less likely to be interested in my
product than in yours, but you really never know how your next
contract will be initiated.
Another option might be trade associations -- at least some of the
technical trade associations with which I'm familiar offer group
rates to members. Again, they'll make the old corporate copay
scheme look mighty cheap, but they could turn out to be a decent
deal.
 
Beautiful country
--
http://www.pbase.com/emagowan

Several broken SLRs that still function for astrophotography. Cardboard Kodak box camera circa 1912. 2 Brownie Hawkeyes. Unopened box of flashcubes. Paperweights that resemble cheap lenses. G2, DV20, PC182XS. Pear tree sans partridge. The patience to wait a couple months before ordering a TenD (or OneDee successor).
 
Heck, it's even beautiful when it's raining (OK, maybe not so much
when it's 35 degrees F and raining sideways for 2 straight
weeks...).
You aren't scaring me ... that sounds like San Francisco in July!!

I don't know if my D60 wants to be in weather like that, so eventually I probably will need an EOS 1 body. My 16-35L is my favorite landscape lens, and it's got the O-rings for weather protection ... so that doesn't really worry me.

What about dressing? Will a goretex parka and pants be enough with some "normal" clothes under them?
 
You gotta find a reason to get up EVERY day! Sounds like you've found yours. Good luck and I hope it works out for you. But take it from an old fart, if you're gonna make mistakes, the time to make them is when you're young!

Gene

I don't know how I got over the hill without ever getting to the top.
Well, it's official! I just gave notice at my full-time corporate
job, and I'll be leaving the Bay Area probably at the end of next
month! I'm going to spend the summer and early fall on the road (
mostly in the Rockies and Cascades ) adding to my portfolio --
which has some good images, but could be a lot stronger. I'll
spend the late fall, winter, and early spring on the East Coast (
where I grew up ) trying to sell my photos and services, then I'm
planning to head to Alaska and work on my portfolio for as long
as I can. ( From there I'm giving a lot of thought to staying in
Anchorage or Fairbanks. )

I'm trying to sell whatever prints I can, but I think I'll be much
better able to make enough to support myself selling services.
Which means shooting photos for people ( I know some artists and
small businesses that could use soem help ) and branching off into
designing web sites, brochures, and the such.

So wish me luck! And if anybody has any ideas on how I can improve
my chances for success, I'd appreciate them very much! I think I
probably have a better chance than most ( especially with my
girlfriend's background in the arts and in design, and my
photography and finance background ), but I'd really like to hear
any good advice you guys can muster!

Forrest Croce
valhallaphotos.com

http://valhallaphotos.com/html/Galleries/LandscapeGalleries.htm
 
Honestly, please let us know how this goes. The rest of us slogging
away in the corporate world will live vicariously!
As much as I'm able to, from the road! Might wind up being whenever I pass through a city where I can find an Internet cafe... ( Will they let me upload stuff from a CD? )
I've always read your posts because I know you're from the Bay Area
(I'm in Walnut Creek.) You really do excellent photography.
Thanks! I've been through Walnut Creek a few times, by the way...
Did you read the article on the Luminous Landscape? There's a
recent article on going pro. Very interesting, and full of good
information.
http://www.luminous-landscape.com/columns/sm-03-03-23.shtml
Is this the same as the one on photo.net?
 
Good luck, and when you get here give me a call or look me
up...I'll be glad to help you any way I can. We have a small
business on the Homer spit, so look us up when you get around this
way. Homer, Alaska, by the way, is one of the "artsiest" places I
ever saw, and your girlfriend should feel right at home.
I definately will do this! Thanks!
Besides all that, you can get a lot of these pictures:
Some of these are really spectacular...! Do the eagles really let you get that close? ( I know most of these are from very long lenses, but I've got to imagine they're pretty small birds, too... )
For what it's worth, when photographing Alaska, I think you should
start in the south in the spring and follow the snow north, ending
up on the north slope in late August.
I'll be coming by car through the Canadian Rockies, so this is probably what I'll wind up doing... Besides, I get the idea late July and August are about the only time a person would ever want to be in the Gates...
 
Are you having a yard sale before you move? Do you have a toaster,
ours sucks! Good luck with your new adventures. I'm envious.
I've always loved to travel ( see below ), and I try not to have too much more stuff than I can fit in my car. But we still have plenty to get rid of.

 
I think it will workout if:
-You don't own a house or car.
Well ... I have a car. I bought it used, so I don't have payments. Just insurance.
-You have no wife or kids.
Girlfriend, but she's coming with, and she'll be helping with the business.
-Canon does not introduce anything new. :)
Hopefully they will! I'm waiting for that 1.3x chip with the high res noiseless sensor and EOS 1 autofocus. I can pay for that with my settlement, and have a much easier time shooting scapes.
I got laid off 6 months ago, and I'm struggling thru the entire
experience. When you are so specialized on something, it's hard to
find a replacement job. Beside have little or no money, I am a
very happy person. I have everything I need, and life is great.
Exactly! Riches aren't necessarily money...
Like others said, I'm jealous of you. If you stay low and make
your money go a long way, you will have the best time of your life.
Making money go a long way is the key. Gas is expensive, although it will seem a lot cheaper once we get out of the Bay Area. Food isn't that much if you buy cheap stuff at Safeway and cook it yourself. We're planning to camp the whole way, so that should take care of one of the biggest expenses...
Good luck again. One day I want to say to others, "I used to chat
with that guys that took this photo..."
Sounds great to me!!
 
Not surprised. Have enjoyed your photos back from Oly days and
your first thoughts of going to Alaska. If you can still access
those old threads you'll find some good info there.
I wish you the best and keep us posted - with some more of your
great photos.
Thanks very much!

Watch my web site every now and then. I'll do my best to post here when I update it. I'm going to spend about six months getting from San Francisco to New England and winter there; I think it'll only be when I go through a city with an Internet cafe that I can puplish updates to my site, and drop a quick note over here...
 
Forrest, I wish you lots of luck on your journey.
Thanks very much!
I think it really doesn't matter if you make any money or you end
up having to someday return to a period of corporate servitude. The
important thing is that you are doing this now and you'll surely
make some great images that you could not have made behind a desk!!
Its got to be worth it for the life experience alone, and at 25
years old nothing could be more natural!
Thing is, this travel stuff is like a drug! I'm 25, and I've driven across the continent four times already. Check out the map at the bottom of this note...
On a more practical note, you could start marketing yourself now,
by telling the local press about your venture. Se if someone (a
company, publisher or some institution) with a possible joint
interest, would be interested in 'sponsoring' you to the tune of a
Canon 1Ds! Seriously, it could be done, you have something to
offer, time, expertise and effort which some companies would be
glad to exploit (to an extent) in return for a 1Ds. All you have to
do is 'realise' which companies they are. Maybe a documentary maker
would like to follow your progress. Put an advert in the trade mag
of people who make documentaries in the US.
This is an excellent idea!! And $8K probably isn't a serious investment for the right ( medium sized ) business. Any more ideas on where ( in San Francisco ) to look for someone who might be interested in an arrangement like this?

Here's where I've been so far:

 
Hey Forrest, it sounds like a great adventure! On one hand, I'm
envious of the opportunity you have. You are young and this is as
good a time as any to go off and do this. Then again, I've grown
more conservative over the years, so a corporate job with
occasional forays into the wild work for me (and fortunately, I'm
in a job that I love). Best of luck to you. I know you'll take
many great pictures and we look forward to hearing from you and
seeing your pictures. many of use will live vicariously through
your experience!
Thanks! I know the economy is rough right now, and my friends act like I'm a homeless man turning my nose up at a hot meal ... but my job is only getting more and more demanding ( just got a promotion, in fact! ) and it's getting more and more difficult to get a decent chunk of time off. I can't make any good photos from my desk, and there's only so far I can get on a weekend...
 
Would presume that you purchased a 1Ds for this resolution
demanding type of work or did you go MF film.
Best of luck, you have decided to do what most of us can't and
won't do.
I'm trying to figure out how to get a 1Ds, but I don't know if that will be possible before I leave. I don't want to go MF ( don't want to go film at all, but I think I'll need a film body for backup and for backpacking when power is an issue ) because I already have some great 35 mm lenses.

So for now I'm using a D60, 16-35L, 50/1.4, and 100/2.8 Macro. I'll be picking up a 300/4L IS and a 1.4x TC before I leave. I would really like a 1Ds, but I don't know how I'm going to make that happen...
 
Well, it's official! I just gave notice at my full-time corporate
job, and I'll be leaving the Bay Area probably at the end of next
month!
I am interested in what you are dumping. Some jobs suck and some aren't all that bad, still a job but OK.

I worked until I took early retirement and then had a heart attack a couple of years later. That was followed by bypass, heart valve replacement, complications, etc. Now after 2 years of rehab the concept of dumping the job as you have done sounds good. But the bills always were there so I didn't.

Life is one big juggling act isn't it? I do envy you the journey you have set for yourself. As the wolf chews your leg off at least it will be well documented!!

Ben Lanterman

http://webpages.charter.net/benlanterman/
http://www.photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=208093
 
Good luck, Forrest. It is the most liberating thing you will ever
do. It will also be the most scary thing you will ever do.
I can think of more scary things I've done, and am likely to get into again. Being in a car when my friend flipped it ( on 101 in Oregon ) was particularly frightening... Any way I look at it, I should have died. So if I can survive that ...!
After my mentor, Galen Rowell, passed away last year, I decided to
practice the carpe diem that he took to his grave. I am now leading
I remember that well! My girlfriend and I have the same kind of partnership they had, and I had been thinking about a Cessna ... but that's scary!
6 photo workshops per year in east Africa, and loving every minute
of it. Of course, the travel can get old, but I have now merged my
passion with income. And when I am home, I still do some software
consulting to keep me busy. Mix in a few print shows here and
there, and voila. Full time.
Sounds like you've got it made!
You will need to update us from time to time on this forum, and let
us know how you are faring. I suspect this might be contagious!
Whenever I'm able to, definately!!
 
While I haven't tried it much yet, I'm thinking it would be
possible (and fun) to get some of that LF quality out of your D60
by shooting multiple sections of a scene and stitching it together.
What little I've done has been with architecural photos. I'd think
nature photos would be easy in comparison.
I've had to do this for a lot of the murals I've shot in SF. Even at 16 mm, you might still need 10 shots across. But murals are a lot easier; all you have to worry about is the light chaning ( sun behind a cloud... ). With a landscape, there's wind blowing the grass, foliage and tree branches, clouds moving through the sky, birds and other animals... I guess stitching a mosaic of individual photos would do in a pinch, but it's really not my style.

I think a 1Ds is ultimately the way to go ... but I need to come up with $8K first!
 
GOOD Luck Forrest.... sounds like you gonna be away for a long
time, I just have this thing keeps coming up in my mind: what r u
gonna do with ur gf?? i know my gf would kill me or dump me if I'm
away that long... but then, even tho i didn't go away that long,
she already dumped me lol....
Well ... you can't have mine! She's coming with me, actually. I never really thought I'd find someone who would even consider coming along on a trip like this, but...
 
You gotta find a reason to get up EVERY day! Sounds like you've
found yours. Good luck and I hope it works out for you. But take it
from an old fart, if you're gonna make mistakes, the time to make
them is when you're young!
Thanks very much! I think I can afford to make a mistake like this -- hoping it won't be a mistake, of course -- a lot more than I can afford to regret not trying.

I also think the secret to getting old really quick is to work for someone else, doing something you aren't terribly interested in. I don't know how three and a half years went by so fast!
 

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