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Thomas Knoll said:
Also, Camera Raw uses the camera name to select which internal
profile to use.
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Right. Somehow the this information is cached somewhere on the Mac version. I've spent a couple of hours trying to figure out where (other then the executable), with no success.
Thomas Knoll said:
The D30 and D60 profiles are slightly different.
My guess is the 10D is closer to a D60 than a D30 (but I have not
verified this yet).
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IMHO, It looks to me like the 10D profile is different from both D30 and D60. I'm not sure weather canon is encoding the RAW bits differently, but the Jpgs definately have a very different look from the D60 (I like the new look of these images, by the way).

I currently can't seem to match the extracted Jpgs to conversions from ACR with either D60 or D30 profile. I'm looking forward to the next release or update.
Thomas Knoll said:
P.S. I see that you figured out who I am, ;-)
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Yes :-) ACR is an amazing piece of work. Congratulations. ACR's release will mark the point in history where its lights out for the dark room. Thanks.

lloyd
 
lloyd t. said:
After an hour or so of playing, I finally got Adobe Camera Raw for
the Mac working. It turns out the modifications of the plug-in have
to be made before you run it the first time. Its probably putting
something in the machine registry. I

0. Close photoshop

1. Re-install Adobe Camera Raw (ACR). You have to do this.

2. Open a shell (terminal) window

3. Change directory to the Raw directory by typing the following
line in the shell window.

cd Applications/Adobe\ Photoshop\ 7/Plug-Ins/Adobe\ Photos
hop\ Only/File\ Formats/Camera\ Raw/Contents/MacOS

4. Now your are going to modify the "Camera Raw" file replacing the
the String "EOS D30" with "EOS 10D". You can do this by running
the ed command:

ed "Camera Raw"

5. Give ed the following commands (press return after each command)

,s/EOS D30/EOS 10D/g
w
q

6. Ok, you should be done (on OS X). If you want to run on
Classic, repeat the process on the plugin in the MacOSClassic
directory.

7. Launch photoshop, you should be able to see raw 10D files.

Have fun, it seems to be a great camera.

lloyd
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lloyd t. said:
lloyd t. said:
lloyd t. said:
Thomas Knoll said:
If you are going to try this patch, do NOT change the string "Canon
D30". You must change the string "Canon D60". Changing the string
Canon D30 might sort of work, but you are going to confuse the
thermal black logic , plus use the wrong set of built-in profiles.
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Ok, I'll bite. What's the thermal black logic?
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Boy, I love this forum. I don't see any difference in the
behaviour from using D30 or D60. Web search on "Thermal Black" and
"color space" yields nothing.

In my opinion, if you want to process both 10D and D60 images on a
Mac, change the D30 to 10D.

You MUST NOT believe everything you read here.
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I didn't realize that you do, infact, know what you are talking
about :-)

http://www.photoshopworld.com/hall_of_fame.html

The only lame excuse I can offer is that I've been jump on with
mis-information a number of times.

sorry,
lloyd
lloyd t. said:
lloyd
lloyd t. said:
lloyd t. said:
loyd t. said:
After an hour or so of playing, I finally got Adobe Camera Raw for
the Mac working. It turns out the modifications of the plug-in have
to be made before you run it the first time. Its probably putting
something in the machine registry. I

0. Close photoshop

1. Re-install Adobe Camera Raw (ACR). You have to do this.

2. Open a shell (terminal) window

3. Change directory to the Raw directory by typing the following
line in the shell window.

cd Applications/Adobe\ Photoshop\ 7/Plug-Ins/Adobe\ Photos
hop\ Only/File\ Formats/Camera\ Raw/Contents/MacOS

4. Now your are going to modify the "Camera Raw" file replacing the
the String "EOS D30" with "EOS 10D". You can do this by running
the ed command:

ed "Camera Raw"

5. Give ed the following commands (press return after each command)

,s/EOS D30/EOS 10D/g
w
q

6. Ok, you should be done (on OS X). If you want to run on
Classic, repeat the process on the plugin in the MacOSClassic
directory.

7. Launch photoshop, you should be able to see raw 10D files.

Have fun, it seems to be a great camera.

lloyd
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Dave

http://www.pbase.com/dgsmithmd
D60
Sigma 15-30
Canon 24-85
Sigma 28, 1.8
Canon 50, 1.8
Canon 85 1.8
Canon 70-200 2.8L
 
Erik Lindahl said:
Hi,

Don't remember where I saw this (haven't tried it yet), but I think
you can have your cake and eat it by:

1. Copying the ACR plugin file to a new name.
2. Apply the editing to the new file, replacing D60 with 10D.
3. Have both files in your plugin directory.

You might be using slightly more memory (loading the same plugin
twice), but that's the only drawback :-)

Cheers,

Erik
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Dave

http://www.pbase.com/dgsmithmd
D60
Sigma 15-30
Canon 24-85
Sigma 28, 1.8
Canon 50, 1.8
Canon 85 1.8
Canon 70-200 2.8L
 
Thomas Knoll said:
Thomas Knoll said:
Thomas: Do you plan to issue a fix/update to ACR to deal with the
10D? If so, when?

Thanks.

sotoo
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I'm not allowed to comment on future versions or updates. Sorry.
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Is there anyone else in the company who could comment on it, because if there is going to be support soon, there won't be so many getting a refund. It seems like it would be a very simple thing to do. I just checked the date last night on my receipt to make sure I bought mine within the past 30 days so that I could get a refund if support for the 10D is not coming soon! I don't like to send things back, so I am patiently waiting, but $99 is a lot to spend if it won't work for my camera.
Dave

http://www.pbase.com/dgsmithmd
D60
Sigma 15-30
Canon 24-85
Sigma 28, 1.8
Canon 50, 1.8
Canon 85 1.8
Canon 70-200 2.8L
 
The info you need to patch is in the "Camera RAW" plugin package. The plugin should be here:

Applications > Photoshop 7 > Plug-ins > File Formats (it might be different for you though if you moved or placed the Photoshop folder somewhere else)

Now once you've found the plugin, control click on it, you should get a submenu coming out, select "Show Package contents". What you need to patch is in Contents > Mac OS.

Instead of using the terminal you can download a free hex-binary editor application called "General Edit Lite 1.1", (I think it works just under classic though) and replace the "EOS D60" string to "EOS 10D", save it and voila. Only problem it won't read D60 RAWs anymore but I don't mind.

If you need more detail let me know.

Cheers.
lloyd t. said:
lloyd t. said:
Also, Camera Raw uses the camera name to select which internal
profile to use.
Click to expand...
Right. Somehow the this information is cached somewhere on the Mac
version. I've spent a couple of hours trying to figure out where
(other then the executable), with no success.
lloyd t. said:
The D30 and D60 profiles are slightly different.
My guess is the 10D is closer to a D60 than a D30 (but I have not
verified this yet).
Click to expand...
IMHO, It looks to me like the 10D profile is different from both
D30 and D60. I'm not sure weather canon is encoding the RAW bits
differently, but the Jpgs definately have a very different look
from the D60 (I like the new look of these images, by the way).

I currently can't seem to match the extracted Jpgs to conversions
from ACR with either D60 or D30 profile. I'm looking forward to
the next release or update.
lloyd t. said:
P.S. I see that you figured out who I am, ;-)
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Yes :-) ACR is an amazing piece of work. Congratulations. ACR's
release will mark the point in history where its lights out for the
dark room. Thanks.

lloyd
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Yann
http://www.pbase.com/ykeesing
 
Thomas Knoll said:
The Canon D30 and D60 use different widths and heights for these
black areas. Hacking the D30 instead of the D60 string will cause
the plug-in create a less accurate estimate the of thermal black
level, possibly resulting in color casts in the shadow areas.

Also, Camera Raw uses the camera name to select which internal
profile to use. The D30 and D60 profiles are slightly different.
My guess is the 10D is closer to a D60 than a D30 (but I have not
verified this yet).
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I'm wondering if it's worth the trouble to hack the ACR for OS X for the 10D, without there being a real profile for the 10D. In other words, will ACR convert the 10D raw files accurately enough to warrant going to the trouble of hacking (which I'm game enough to try), or would I be better off sticking to jpeg large/fine until ACR is updated for the 10D? Does anyone who's tried the hack have any thoughts on this?
 
lloyd t. said:
After an hour or so of playing, I finally got Adobe Camera Raw for
the Mac working. It turns out the modifications of the plug-in have
to be made before you run it the first time. Its probably putting
something in the machine registry. I

0. Close photoshop

1. Re-install Adobe Camera Raw (ACR). You have to do this.

2. Open a shell (terminal) window

3. Change directory to the Raw directory by typing the following
line in the shell window.

cd Applications/Adobe\ Photoshop\ 7/Plug-Ins/Adobe\ Photos
hop\ Only/File\ Formats/Camera\ Raw/Contents/MacOS

4. Now your are going to modify the "Camera Raw" file replacing the
the String "EOS D30" with "EOS 10D". You can do this by running
the ed command:

ed "Camera Raw"

5. Give ed the following commands (press return after each command)

,s/EOS D30/EOS 10D/g
w
q

6. Ok, you should be done (on OS X). If you want to run on
Classic, repeat the process on the plugin in the MacOSClassic
directory.

7. Launch photoshop, you should be able to see raw 10D files.

Have fun, it seems to be a great camera.

lloyd
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Jill1 wrote:

I tried this, while new to Terminal Window. I got a message stating "Command not found". Help....... Jill
Jill Turner said:
lloyd t. said:
After an hour or so of playing, I finally got Adobe Camera Raw for
the Mac working. It turns out the modifications of the plug-in have
to be made before you run it the first time. Its probably putting
something in the machine registry. I

0. Close photoshop

1. Re-install Adobe Camera Raw (ACR). You have to do this.

2. Open a shell (terminal) window

3. Change directory to the Raw directory by typing the following
line in the shell window.

cd Applications/Adobe\ Photoshop\ 7/Plug-Ins/Adobe\ Photos
hop\ Only/File\ Formats/Camera\ Raw/Contents/MacOS

4. Now your are going to modify the "Camera Raw" file replacing the
the String "EOS D30" with "EOS 10D". You can do this by running
the ed command:

ed "Camera Raw"

5. Give ed the following commands (press return after each command)

,s/EOS D30/EOS 10D/g
w
q

6. Ok, you should be done (on OS X). If you want to run on
Classic, repeat the process on the plugin in the MacOSClassic
directory.

7. Launch photoshop, you should be able to see raw 10D files.

Have fun, it seems to be a great camera.

lloyd
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As a long time Mac person I remember the days when Mac people would laugh at DOS people having to type in cryptic commands to get something done. Now with the Unix based OS X environment, many Mac people are excited that they can go into the terminal. It makes me wonder if some of the Mac people just like to complain about Windows/DOS/MS in general as opposed to having any real issues with it.

Now bring on the PowerPC 970 and dump the lame G4. Apple has been using it for almost FOUR years!

Greg Matty
 
sanford schulwolf said:
Hello, will/can anyone confirm that the ACR hack works with OS 9.2
and the 10D?
Thanks,
Sanford
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The only HEX Editor I had available was an OS 9 program named QGE Lite 1.1. I ran it under Classic and was able to get it to update the Plug-in to work with Mac OS X and under Mac OS 9.2.2.

When you do this hack and view the "Camera Raw" Plug-in you will first see a folder named Camera Raw. Upon opening it you will see 2 files. 1 again named Camera Raw and a folder named Contents. Inside the folder named Contents will be several files BUT the 2 important ones are folders named "Mac OS" and "Mac OS Classic".

First Open the Mac OS folder an inside it is Camera Raw. When you select this file to open make sure you don't open it in read only. Make sure you have your HEX editor set to UNLOCK Data and then do a search for "D60" When it appears Highlight it and type 10D. Do a save and you are done witht the OS X part.

If you are running Photoshop under OS 9 also. Repeat the the sequence above on the folder named Mac OS Classic.

Quit the HEX Program and your Camera Raw file is now set to work with the Canon 10D.

By the way. The Camera Raw file will work with Photoshop Elements 2.0. I copied the Camera Raw file and put it in the PE 2.0 Plug-ins/File Format folder and it works under both System 9 and X.

I discovered that Photoshop and Elements actually install 2 programs on your computer upon each installation. You can actually run 2 copies of each program on the same computer at the same time. One in Classic and one in OS X.
 
lloyd t. said:
After an hour or so of playing, I finally got Adobe Camera Raw for
the Mac working. It turns out the modifications of the plug-in have
to be made before you run it the first time. Its probably putting
something in the machine registry. I

0. Close photoshop

1. Re-install Adobe Camera Raw (ACR). You have to do this.

2. Open a shell (terminal) window

3. Change directory to the Raw directory by typing the following
line in the shell window.

cd Applications/Adobe\ Photoshop\ 7/Plug-Ins/Adobe\ Photos
hop\ Only/File\ Formats/Camera\ Raw/Contents/MacOS

4. Now your are going to modify the "Camera Raw" file replacing the
the String "EOS D30" with "EOS 10D". You can do this by running
the ed command:

ed "Camera Raw"

5. Give ed the following commands (press return after each command)

,s/EOS D30/EOS 10D/g
w
q

6. Ok, you should be done (on OS X). If you want to run on
Classic, repeat the process on the plugin in the MacOSClassic
directory.

7. Launch photoshop, you should be able to see raw 10D files.

Have fun, it seems to be a great camera.

lloyd
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Jill1 said:
lloyd t. said:
After an hour or so of playing, I finally got Adobe Camera Raw for
the Mac working. It turns out the modifications of the plug-in have
to be made before you run it the first time. Its probably putting
something in the machine registry. I

0. Close photoshop

1. Re-install Adobe Camera Raw (ACR). You have to do this.

2. Open a shell (terminal) window

3. Change directory to the Raw directory by typing the following
line in the shell window.

cd Applications/Adobe\ Photoshop\ 7/Plug-Ins/Adobe\ Photos
hop\ Only/File\ Formats/Camera\ Raw/Contents/MacOS

4. Now your are going to modify the "Camera Raw" file replacing the
the String "EOS D30" with "EOS 10D". You can do this by running
the ed command:

ed "Camera Raw"

5. Give ed the following commands (press return after each command)

,s/EOS D30/EOS 10D/g
w
q

6. Ok, you should be done (on OS X). If you want to run on
Classic, repeat the process on the plugin in the MacOSClassic
directory.

7. Launch photoshop, you should be able to see raw 10D files.

Have fun, it seems to be a great camera.

lloyd
I keep getting a error message saying "command not found" What does this mean?
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I did all that and it will not work. I get a message - Could not open "CRW.0085.CRW" because the file-format module cannot parse the file.

What Am I doing wrong?

If possible could someone send me a patched version? I would gladly send you th e original to show you I purchased the product.

Allan
Joe Gudac said:
When you do this hack and view the "Camera Raw" Plug-in you will
first see a folder named Camera Raw. Upon opening it you will see 2
files. 1 again named Camera Raw and a folder named Contents. Inside
the folder named Contents will be several files BUT the 2 important
ones are folders named "Mac OS" and "Mac OS Classic".

First Open the Mac OS folder an inside it is Camera Raw. When you
select this file to open make sure you don't open it in read only.
Make sure you have your HEX editor set to UNLOCK Data and then do a
search for "D60" When it appears Highlight it and type 10D. Do a
save and you are done witht the OS X part.

If you are running Photoshop under OS 9 also. Repeat the the
sequence above on the folder named Mac OS Classic.

Quit the HEX Program and your Camera Raw file is now set to work
with the Canon 10D.

By the way. The Camera Raw file will work with Photoshop Elements
2.0. I copied the Camera Raw file and put it in the PE 2.0
Plug-ins/File Format folder and it works under both System 9 and X.

I discovered that Photoshop and Elements actually install 2
programs on your computer upon each installation. You can actually
run 2 copies of each program on the same computer at the same time.
One in Classic and one in OS X.
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