No Sony SLRs any more, ever.

Started Sep 13, 2012 | Discussions thread
Draek Senior Member • Posts: 2,028
Re: No Sony SLRs any more, ever.

jerome_munich wrote:

What I never understood is why so many Sony users rejoice at the disparition of the OVF.

Probably because we don't.

OVF users don't ask that Sony abandons the SLT system, it is only EVF users who insist that the OVF must go and will disappear in the future.

No, we don't. We merely state that it will , not that it must . It's the same as with cheap compact cameras: between smartphones and premium compacts, their life is pretty much at an end and it'd surprise me if they were still being made 5, 7 years from now. Do I have something against cheap compacts? not at all, in fact I rather like them myself, but that won't make its future any brighter. Sucks to be us.

From the answers in this thread, it seems that we have more hindsight in the psychology of the average Sony forum user: most of the pro-EVF answers came with the argument that "EVF is the future" or went even further by stating that all other manufacturers will have to go EVF in the near future. We also had some comparison between the phasing out of film and the phasing out of the OVF. So it seems that these users have some emotional, irrational, investment in the idea that they have a "more modern" system and that their brand of choice leads future developments. With that attitude, of course the OVF needs to disappear for Sony to "win": any brand keeping the OVF in the future will disprove the theory that the EVF will displace the OVF in the future.

Yeah, leave psychology to the psychologists. Again, it's simply that it's dying and thus EVFs are the future; not that it should but that it is . And such comments are only in response to people "waiting" for when "Sony sees the light" and finally offers a SLR camera with a TTL OVF again instead of learning to use an EVF properly, when the trend for the industry in general and Sony in specific says that this "wait" won't ever come to an end.

Sure, Sony could keep both lines alive into the future. Sony could also give away the cameras for free and try to make a profit on lenses, but much as with the previous idea, that they could doesn't mean it's an economically-viable strategy; check out how much the price rises in the D800 and K5-II just by removing the AA filter, then imagine the premium you'd have to pay to get an entirely different mirror mechanism, a pentaprism and the rest of the TTL-related gadgetry in there. Do you really want to pay 5Dm3 prices for a Sony A710, or 1DX prices for an A910? thought so.

Only the future will tell what really happens, but Nikon did not announce an EVF camera this year and Canon also seems firmly committed to the flapping mirror. An educated prediction would just appear to be that, in the next 3 to 5 years, only Sony will pursue the SLT route with the competition still producing traditional SLRs. How the market will respond to that remains to be seen, of course.

Only Sony, and Olympus, and Panasonic, and Samsung, and wait, Sony again, and Fuji, and... well, yeah. Hell, even Pentax has made some tentative steps by removing the OVF in the K-01, and God knows they're some of the most traditionalist camera makers in existence (video? hahaha! what's that?). You might say "but mirrorless are an entirely different market!", but the only thing separating them is the same thing separating SLTs from SLRs: the different framing system. In everything else, they're only as different as any two SLRs are between themselves.

Well, there's also focusing systems, the main reason SLRs have thrived until now, but even that's been changing since this generation of cameras.

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