Are you willing to let film die off? How do you really feel?

Started Aug 14, 2012 | Discussions thread
Mako2011
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Re: Let me rephrase that

PerL wrote:

jack69 wrote:

PerL wrote:

PHOTOJOE55 wrote:

Keh, and other Camera Brokers are just about begging for our film cameras and other gear, but they are paying peanuts! For me, there is no question. I'm using the gear. Many people are demanding film. We've got people that have come in every year, to Document in Portraits, the growth and changes in their families and they want it done with film. They even ask to see the negatives on the light table!

But even if there was no demand for it, I would still shoot Film, even if it's a small percentage of our work. I think, if we all just forget about it, it will continue to fade away. I don't know who keeps those kind of records, but I want to keep Film alive.

If we don't shoot film, they will soon slow or halt production, and I'm sure the prices will quickly rise. I often wonder what Keh and the others are doing with the gear. Are they sending it to Japan? Any ideas?

I'd like to find out how many people are still shooting film. If not, will it bother you if film fades away completely? If you have a minute to spare, maybe you could voice your opinion. I know of a few that agree with me, but I'd like to hear from people actively shooting every day or at least every week. When Fuji took the full name Fujifilm, I thought that meant their commitment to the medium.

It would be tragic if film disappeared.

Tragic? Don't you think that you use a too strong term? Tragic to whom? to you? The photographic community moved on and embraced digital.

OK - tragic is to strong, it should be reserved for more serious matters. Lets say sad.

In answer to your other statement - At least the artistic community has not moved on entirely. If you go to a exhibition of photographic art you will probably still see more prints from film than digital. And the film shots often looks more pleasing to many viewers

I have been to 3 recent exhibitions of photographic art. In all three, no film was represented. I suspect in NYC that may not be the case.

To be more specifik about pros and cons about film/digital:
Lets leave convinience aside because it does not matter to the viewers.

Why? As a viewer here (computer screen as replaced the wall as the most common medium for viewing) ...I can only see digital so it matters greatly.

Then IMO:
Sports, wildlife, long tele shots: Digital wins
Portraits, skin tone. Film wins usually

Usually? That is subjective. The very best I've seen of late have all been digital.

Low light color: Digital wins
Good light color: Film wins usually

Usually? Again, subjective.

Good light B&W: Film wins

Again, subjective as things Silver Efex Pro 2 have greatly changed the "look" in my opinion and perhaps given the advantage to digital when using FF like a D4

Low light B&W: Film wins up to ISO 1600-2000 - not technically, but more appealing, above that digital wins

Still subjective I think

The look of colors out of camera: A well exposed slide beats any digital OOC. You can improve digital with PP of course, but have to walk on a thin line between good punch and tacky overdoing.

Again not everyone prefers the look of slide, but that aside...limiting digital to only OOC is a bit silly. Might as well limit film to OOW (out of Walgreen's)

Amount of necessary PP work: Film wins

NO way, sorry....because you limited in what PP can accomplish in film does not equate to necessary, IMO. One of the users here could certainly benefit from more PP in his/her film work. It's just not an absolute I think. I see what your are saying though.

Tonality, natural looking DR: film wins

Subjective and I really think the D4 and like cameras are taking the advantage away.

In the future I can see film as a way for professionals to separate them from the mass of digital photos that tends to look the same. At least in some niches.

Possibly.

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