Finally got angry about lack of 35mm equivalent

Started Jul 31, 2012 | Discussions thread
Mark_McD Senior Member • Posts: 1,759
Re: Finally got angry about lack of 35mm equivalent

headofdestiny wrote:

Mark_McD wrote:

I think Dennis did a fine job of explaining it when he said "We can ask why Sony couldn't release a 22mm like Canon did, or we can alternately ask why Canon hasn't released a 16mm like Sony did."
(paraphrasing)

I don't know, Mark. When you look at the over arching point of the NEX system, which is smaller alternative to DSLRs, I think we should hold Sony to task a bit for their lens sizes.

I think that depends on which selection you're making for comparison within the gamut of mirrorless users. Point and shoot upgraders? dSLR converts? Those looking to use it for a digital back for legacy glass? Those who appreciate that you can handle it like a TLR? Those looking for a Leica alternative?

I think one of those is interested solely in pancakes, the rest are not. Irregardless of how you look at it, I think it's easy to see that even with the lens size, if it is identical to a a dSLR's lens, the body's smaller, thus the package is smaller as a whole.

In going smaller from SLR lenses, we have to weigh performance vs size more often than not. This can be at times mitigated by software correction for intentional imperfections left in the optic design.

We've seen Samsung NX, m4/3, and now Canon all understanding that users want lenses that are both relatively small and high quality, and, while the quality of the new Canon remains to be seen, Samsung NX and m4/3 both have some nice options.

I think that's another point of contention though, how small is small and how high quality is high enough quality? What premium will people pay for said compromise?

The funny thing is, I actually wish the 16mm was larger, since that would likely lead to better performance. Although everyone has their own preferences, lenses in the 28-50mm equivalent range tend to be most popular as single carry primes,

I'm cutting this in mid-sentence because you've changed subjects mid-sentence (not trying to be overly critical, but it's easier to address):

The 16mm, I agree, could've been bigger. In fact, I think it actually handles awkwardly for me, as I use it solely in MF mode (I hate fiddling with AF, but that's another discussion all together). Having your fingers compressed against the body just to get at the focusing ring is awkward to say the least.

As far as the "28-50mm" range, I think they have a good SEL50F18 that in my position is an okay size (not too big, not too small) and has attractive attributes versus legacy lenses, in that it has OSS and comparable bokeh to many legacy lenses (by the way of quality, characteristics are otherwise personal preference).

They also released the 30mm macro, which I think was intended to be more of an all-around lens than simply a macro (which it's a bit wide for traditional 1:1 production).

I'd have sooner seen them release the 35mm / f1.8 that I'm expecting to be released at or by Photokina, but again that's a lens that caters to me, not to the populous or entire gamut of Nex users, so I don't feel as if I've been cheated by it not being out.

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