Wow!... Check "In Motion" challenge!

Started Jul 29, 2012 | Discussions thread
whisky Senior Member • Posts: 1,638
Re: Wow!... Check "In Motion" challenge!

RaptorUK wrote:

whisky wrote:

RaptorUK wrote:

whisky wrote:

RaptorUK wrote:

whisky wrote:

I personally don't like the principle of voting entrants.

Not even if all Entrants voted fairly ?

Sadly I don't think this will ever happen

But if it did . . . would you still have an objection ?

In an ideal world, no, this would not be an issue, but because of the subjective nature of each individuals judgement of what constitutes a noteworthy image photographically and perhaps artistically, I cannot see this ever working when entrants are allowed to vote in their own Challenges.

So your objection is not to Entrants voting but is to Entrants voting unfairly ?

No, I still cannot, on principle, agree to entrants voting. We do not live in an ideal world.

can't that same objection be applied to voters who are not Entrants ? you will want them to vote fairly too .

Yes I would expect anyone who votes to be fair and honest, what have they to gain from being otherwise ? . .

Not all Challenges are prone to what is called Sandbagging . . . I wonder why that is ?

Not the slightest idea.

There is no point in entering if you do not think your entry relevant for the Challenge. However to vote in this same Challenge, you are hardly likely to vote down your own entry by giving other well deserving entries higher votes than you might expect your own entry to reasonably receive and this in spite of not being directly able to vote on your own entry. Honesty and 'Do unto others as you would have them do unto you', does not appear to be a concept much shared.

I vote in the Challenges I enter, I give a range of scores, some lower that what I think my Entry deserves and some higher. I am not generous with my scores, I would much rather the highest score I award be worth the same as the highest score that another voter gives.


It can also happen that a voter is perfectly and honestly entitled to cast a low vote for an entry which they honestly, in their own opinion, considered was poor or did not satisfy the Challenge rules and not because they wished to sabotage that particular entry. It is all so subjective but the regular occurrence of sub average vote scores on winning or highly placed entries is probably rather obvious sandbagging.

If the voting system is changed to a relative one, instead of the current absolute one, this becomes a non issue . . . there would be no scores so an Entry couldn't be scored low.

I haven't a clue on how this sad situation will ever be resolved and entrants enjoy taking part in Challenges without having their honest entries sabotaged.


It's really all too much for me, as far as I am concerned, it will never be resolved so,

Over and out.

Cheers Again.

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