A missing Con in the Canon 5d III's review: absence of an onboard flash

Started May 23, 2012 | Discussions thread
Skip M Veteran Member • Posts: 7,174
Re: A missing Con in the Canon 5d III's review: absence of an onboard flash

Philz wrote:

To me, pros and cons exist with respect to reference points and expectations, whether consciously or not. The iPhone's camera is ok I guess (barely) but reviewers who say it's great don't compare to a DSLR. Why am I saying that? Because the cons of the Mark IIi are cons vs. expectations built from products available in the market. Can someone refute that the D800 is the elephant in the Canon's review? If you don't, then how come the Canon's cons miss the absence of an onboard flash? Are Nikon engineers so stupid for having included one in the D800?

The other way to look at it is that the D800 is the only full 35mm sized sensor camera to include it. The Sony A-900 doesn't, the D3 doesn't and the 1DX doesn't. It's not a con for those cameras, it's a plus (if you want that sort of thing, I don't) for the D800. So, the reference point for a pro, and for many advanced enthusiasts, are the other cameras in its class, and 4 out of 5 don't have that feature. The only other cameras with any pro expectations at all that include the feature are crop cameras, i.e. the 7D, E-5, etc. Is that refutation enough?

Personally, for me, the lack of an on-board flash is a complete non starter as a problem. I had one on my first AF camera, the Canon A2 (EOS5 to the rest of the world) and only used it maybe twice. It was blocked by lenses as relatively small as the 28-135 f3.5-5.6 IS, with a 72mm front element. I've tried it with my 60D, when I had an issue with one of my 580s, and it was blocked, thoroughly, by my 16-35 f2.8L and even caught the edge of my 20-35, and that was on a crop sensor! So, I can say, categorically, that I've found, for my usage, that an on board flash borders on completely useless.
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