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The article has absolutely nothing to do with photography.

Anybody that still thinks that modern polymers are inferior to metal is living in a past decade.
 
Ubiquity99 said:
Anybody that still thinks that modern polymers are inferior to metal is living in a past decade.
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My old D30 had a plastic body. It took a lot of abuse and still looked great. Every 1D I've owned has been Canon's standard high end magnesium alloy body painted black. It takes no time for me to dent and scratch them up.
 
Actually the 50D replacement is the 7D. 60D is meant as a lower spec super rebel.

A lot of Nikon people expected D800 to be like the 5DIII while a lot of Canon users expected 5DIII to be like D800. While D800 had a big increase in MP the 5DIII didnt went the oppsite way and dropped it to 12mp but made its 22mp focus better making it more practical for many types of use. However focus and speed on the D800 is not near as good which severly restrict its use that was not a problem with the D700. In another word if you are a D700 type photographer D800 is a step back apart from resolution and videol. If you are a 5DMk2 photographer the 5DIII is an improvement all round.
DVT80111 said:
It is not my words

http://semimd.com/blog/2012/04/02/analyst-canon-nikon-go-in-opposite-directions/

It sounds familiar.

D90 plastic then D7000 Mg metal
50D- Mg metal then 60D Plastic.
D800 smaller Pixels, 5D3 large pixel.
D800 same price, 5D3 more expensive.

One of them must be a looser, if not both.
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Without having read the article: I have thought for a long time that Canon and Nikon behave a bit like cats and dogs, they go in opposite directions indeed, they seem to agree to do things differently from the other one. Not a bad thing, it gives us a reason to choose. With this I'm mainly thinking about ergonomics and details. Of course where major developments are concerned they will go the same way, both have since long abandoned the 6 MP sensor.
 
"Actually the 50D replacement is the 7D. 60D is meant as a lower spec super rebel."

I disagree with that statement.
 
Canon - Downhill;
Niikon - Uphill
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No, Canon right, Nikon left or vice versa :-)
 
Taikonaut said:
However focus and speed on the D800 is not near as good which severly restrict its use that was not a problem with the D700.
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I think I understand your self-appointed role in this forum, but I really don't think you are being truthful in this matter. The AF on the D800 is lightning quick and deadly accurate. After taking several thousand sports/action shots over the past 2 weeks, I'm achieving a keeper rate in excess of 99.5% (at least with respect to crisp, perfect focus). You can legitimately knock the D800 for having a lower fps, but to fault it for poor focusing ability is uninformed and disingenuous. Regards. -iwbs
 
agree, but due to marketing, mg bodies especially for the upper models, will be around for a lot of years

I suspect it be possible to have a sturdier/more efficient polymer body than a mg one especially for the upperclass APS-Cs
 
You could always ignore taikonaut but i would suggest against it. taikonaut is the equivalent of a12 years old O'Reilly on steroids. Its always fun to read what comes out of his head :)
 
iwannabesedated said:
Taikonaut said:
However focus and speed on the D800 is not near as good which severly restrict its use that was not a problem with the D700.
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I think I understand your self-appointed role in this forum, but I really don't think you are being truthful in this matter. The AF on the D800 is lightning quick and deadly accurate. After taking several thousand sports/action shots over the past 2 weeks, I'm achieving a keeper rate in excess of 99.5% (at least with respect to crisp, perfect focus). You can legitimately knock the D800 for having a lower fps, but to fault it for poor focusing ability is uninformed and disingenuous. Regards. -iwbs
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He has not used the D800 or 5DIII.

The 5DIII AF is excellent. It acquires a hair faster than the D800. On some lenses you can't tell, but the 70-200 was a bit faster to lock on the 5DIII vs. the 70-200 VRII on the D800. The 50mm AF-S 1.4 focused faster than the Canon 50mm 1.2, according to the owner. (I only noted the different with the longer lenses myself)

BUT...AF tracking remains superior on the Nikon and both cameras are deadly accurate once you dial in the AF. Canon caught up to Nikon with their wonderful AF, but while they worked it out Nikon shot ahead on almost every other front.

FACT: The D800 has stolen more Canon customers than the D3 did and Canon better get very serious about fighting back with their own game-changer.

Robert
 
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