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Other cameras I know of that the B300 Works on

Sony 707/717, Fuji 6900 / 602, Dimage 5/7 - I'm sure it'll work on the Cx0x0 too with the right lens tube

Also it works on Canon non-L Zoom lenses up to about 200mm with a filter thread of no more than 58mm, it suffers the "Olyboy" problem with a 300mm lens such as the 75-300IS after 200mm (it will focus sharp at shorter ranges but not to infinity).. it also extends the range of the 50mm and 100mm canon primes too nicely..

I actually tried held up against a Fuji 2400 and it worked, same with the Nikon coolpix 950 though you can get an adapter ring for that..

It doesn't work on Logitech webcams

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When playing around both are excellent lens. I will admit for around $70, the C-210 is a good 1.9X. Its probally the biggest bang for the buck as far as power and clearity. As stated you do get some vinigation when using even at full zoom. Thats probally the biggest draw back since I like to frame up when shoting. But I found that I use the C-210 when I need to get a distant shot qucik. I did find that the center is super sharp, but the edges start to fog out a little, but very little.

As for the B-300 is a big piece of glass. I will say this is one of my most used lens, since it gives me POWER, Clearity, useable zoom, and its just cool looking. The B-300 seems to be the favorete among most digi users do to the facts I listed above and it works with alot of other cameras. The only draw back to the is there avablity and going price. But once you get one you will love it.

I have found the Canon TL-55, to actually a hair above even the B-300 in quality and usablity, but its only a 1.4X. So there is the big draw back, but for around $70, its a GOOD piece of glass. Is very similar to the TCON-14B, except 1/2 the price.
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Olympus C-2100
Canon TL-55(1.4X),B-300,TCON-14, A-200, C-180,
C-210 & Adorama 2X Teleconverter (Junk)
If they make it, I STACK-IT
Dreaming about a TCON-300
 
James C. Whiteside III said:
When playing around both are excellent lens. I will admit for
around $70, the C-210 is a good 1.9X. Its probally the biggest bang
for the buck as far as power and clearity. As stated you do get
some vinigation when using even at full zoom. Thats probally the
biggest draw back since I like to frame up when shoting. But I
found that I use the C-210 when I need to get a distant shot qucik.
I did find that the center is super sharp, but the edges start to
fog out a little, but very little.

As for the B-300 is a big piece of glass. I will say this is one of
my most used lens, since it gives me POWER, Clearity, useable zoom,
and its just cool looking. The B-300 seems to be the favorete among
most digi users do to the facts I listed above and it works with
alot of other cameras. The only draw back to the is there avablity
and going price. But once you get one you will love it.

I have found the Canon TL-55, to actually a hair above even the
B-300 in quality and usablity, but its only a 1.4X. So there is the
big draw back, but for around $70, its a GOOD piece of glass. Is
very similar to the TCON-14B, except 1/2 the price.
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James, please elaborate on the TCON-14. From what I gather I could use the TL-55 at 1.4 (best quality) or the C-210 (lesser quality - extra .5) or the B-300 in the middle at 1.7 but three times the price?
James C. Whiteside III said:
Olympus C-2100
Canon TL-55(1.4X),B-300,TCON-14, A-200, C-180,
C-210 & Adorama 2X Teleconverter (Junk)
If they make it, I STACK-IT
Dreaming about a TCON-300
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Theres alot of differant cameras out that are fitted for spacific needs such as nature, landscapes, macro, ect. So I would try to find out what he would use it for and go fromt there.

I grabed up a C-700 a few months ago for around $280 though I have actually seen them cheaper. Its has the great 10X zoom and a lot of manual features for a cheap little camera. Though its not the best in any catagory, its good in all. And it is the little brother to the C-2100 if that says anything.
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Olympus C-2100
Canon TL-55(1.4X),B-300,TCON-14, A-200, C-180,
C-210 & Adorama 2X Teleconverter (Junk)
If they make it, I STACK-IT
Dreaming about a TCON-300
 
Here is a useful chart fwiw:

http://members.cox.net/gandalfpublic/teleconverters.htm

On the zoom issue, the useability is confusing. Does this mean you have to use it at full zoom and get 10-25% range?
Stinson said:
Only part I did not understand is what are the limitations in the
zoom. You suggested the C-210 has limits, but does the B-300 too?
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It depends on what your going to do with the lens. If you need mega zoom and quality is not as big of a issue (viniagating, so may need croped) then the C-210 is a good lens. Like I stated earlyer its a good lens if your trying to reach out there. But thats about all I use it for, since I can only use it at full zoom. I am a person that likes to be able to zoom in and out, so vinigating is a big disadvantage for me.

As for the Canon TL-55 (or TL-46) its a great all around lens. I have probally put more time in use with this lens than any. I find its a good size, but a little heavy. It has very little CA, which is not even noticeable except in EXTREAM cases. And for around $70 its the clearest glass for the money that I have found. I use if for macro, stacking lens, distant shot, and anything else. I actually shot alot with diopters and it combinied and recieve EXCELLENT results at you can not even tell was shot with a extra piece of glass on the camera. This is probally my favorete all around lens, but you must realize that the 1.4X is the limiting factor.

The TCON-14B and TCON-14 are two differant lens. The TCON-14B compairs close to the canon when I tested, but it cost twice as much. Thats way I keep the TL-55 since it gave me the same results for 1/2 the price. Though the little TCON-14 is a good little lens, I only use it for stacking. Its small and compact. Its almost like nothing is on there. I get about 50% usable zoom with it, but it has a 46 thread, which is a little more costly step down ring to buy ($9 ring $15 shipping at B&H).

And the B-300 is in a catagory of its own. Its a good lens that give you Power and usablitiy in one. Thats the big adavantage of it. Since most lens eather give power, usablity, or clearity. And the B-300 gives it all, but you will pay for it.

So to sum it up, it really depends on what and how much your going to use it. I would say 85-90% of my shots are with add on lens (tele, diopters, ect) This is probally a little more than most people. But if the money is tight and you need a tele lens the TCON-14 is good little lens for around $50 on ebay. If its around $100, and you want a good all around lens then the TL-55 is it. if its power then the C-210. And if you want them all the features go for the B-300.

Its hard to tell you want lens to get since I really do not know what you will be doing with it. So you may have to play around a little to see what you would use it most for. And if you got the money, go for the $500 TCON-300 its a 3X that gives around 50% usable zoom and good clearity.
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Olympus C-2100
Canon TL-55(1.4X),B-300,TCON-14, A-200, C-180,
C-210 & Adorama 2X Teleconverter (Junk)
If they make it, I STACK-IT
Dreaming about a TCON-300
 
The C-210 has absolutely no usable Uzi zoom since it vignettes even at the Uzi's tightest zoom setting, the B-300 has very little usable Uzi zoom, meaning you can pan the zoom wide just a bit from the tightest Uzi zoom setting.

The A-200 & Evidently the TL-55 have quite a bit more Uzable Uzi Zoom probably somewhere close to being able to pan back maybe 1/2 of the Uzi's zoom & from what I've read the TCon-14 or 14b has even more allowing amost the entire Uzi zoom while the adapter is attached. While the 14b gives you more versatility than the B-300 & C210, what you gain in usable zoom you get in further reach, which "for me" was my objective. I usually keep whichever of the two cameras I have without anything attached close at hand for the suprise, too close for the B-300 shots. for example:



reveals the inner barrel of the B-300 cause I had to pan back & click on the Macro in a big hurry to get the shot since I needed that hand & couldn't use it to remove the B-300... With the 14b chances are there would'v been very little if any inner barrel in the same shot... LOL
Stinson said:
Only part I did not understand is what are the limitations in the
zoom. You suggested the C-210 has limits, but does the B-300 too?
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For example, the TL-55 gives you 50% usable zoom. That means you can zoom in and out from 380-190 without vinigating.

But you must realize that you are really getting 532-266.

When looking over that chart, its a excellent guide. Though I would argue a little with the quality ratings. But I think that price and power was taken into consideration when rating so thats way there a little off.

Like the A-200, its a excellent lens for close work, but useless when shoting distant shots. At close distance I would rate it a 8.5, but at distance I would rate it a 4. Its hard to just state that in a chart. Like the C-210, I would rate it a 8 in the center of the image and a 6 on the outer edges. But since it vintages and its fog, I would probally give it a 7 or 7.5. It really depends on how you use the lens, so use the chart as a guide not the bible.

For example the TCON-14B and the TL-55 are probally two if the clearest lens that can be used on the C-2100, but they are only 1.4X. Where the B-300 is only a hair below and its a 1.7X. So inturn the B-300 is going to get you a better image at 600mm than the 14B or the 55 since they would have to be cropped to get the same image.
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Olympus C-2100
Canon TL-55(1.4X),B-300,TCON-14, A-200, C-180,
C-210 & Adorama 2X Teleconverter (Junk)
If they make it, I STACK-IT
Dreaming about a TCON-300
 
James C. Whiteside III said:
It depends on what your going to do with the lens. If you need mega
zoom and quality is not as big of a issue (viniagating, so may need
croped) then the C-210 is a good lens. Like I stated earlyer its a
good lens if your trying to reach out there. But thats about all I
use it for, since I can only use it at full zoom. I am a person
that likes to be able to zoom in and out, so vinigating is a big
disadvantage for me.

As for the Canon TL-55 (or TL-46) its a great all around lens.
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Looks like Canon has a new one called the TC-D58N. It's $140 and a 1.7, so its a $100 less than the B-300 (new on ebay right now is about $240). It's a 58mm, so maybe that's too far to step down to 49mm??

I
James C. Whiteside III said:
have probally put more time in use with this lens than any. I find
its a good size, but a little heavy. It has very little CA, which
is not even noticeable except in EXTREAM cases. And for around $70
its the clearest glass for the money that I have found. I use if
for macro, stacking lens, distant shot, and anything else. I
actually shot alot with diopters and it combinied and recieve
EXCELLENT results at you can not even tell was shot with a extra
piece of glass on the camera. This is probally my favorete all
around lens, but you must realize that the 1.4X is the limiting
factor.

The TCON-14B and TCON-14 are two differant lens. The TCON-14B
compairs close to the canon when I tested, but it cost twice as
much. Thats way I keep the TL-55 since it gave me the same results
for 1/2 the price. Though the little TCON-14 is a good little lens,
I only use it for stacking. Its small and compact. Its almost like
nothing is on there. I get about 50% usable zoom with it, but it
has a 46 thread, which is a little more costly step down ring to
buy ($9 ring $15 shipping at B&H).

And the B-300 is in a catagory of its own. Its a good lens that
give you Power and usablitiy in one. Thats the big adavantage of
it. Since most lens eather give power, usablity, or clearity. And
the B-300 gives it all, but you will pay for it.

So to sum it up, it really depends on what and how much your going
to use it. I would say 85-90% of my shots are with add on lens
(tele, diopters, ect) This is probally a little more than most
people. But if the money is tight and you need a tele lens the
TCON-14 is good little lens for around $50 on ebay. If its around
$100, and you want a good all around lens then the TL-55 is it. if
its power then the C-210. And if you want them all the features go
for the B-300.

Its hard to tell you want lens to get since I really do not know
what you will be doing with it. So you may have to play around a
little to see what you would use it most for. And if you got the
money, go for the $500 TCON-300 its a 3X that gives around 50%
usable zoom and good clearity.
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Olympus C-2100
Canon TL-55(1.4X),B-300,TCON-14, A-200, C-180,
C-210 & Adorama 2X Teleconverter (Junk)
If they make it, I STACK-IT
Dreaming about a TCON-300
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Stinson
C2100,C-2020, D-40, PS6
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http://www.pbase.com/stinson


 
When using the Tl-55 and the TCON-14B, your right both give good usable zoom. I would rate both at around 60-55% actually. The 14B may be just a hair more. Though the TCON-14 and the A-200 do cut off around the 50% mark.

Though I find with my B-300, I get around 28% give or take depending on which stepup ring I am using. Thats a little more than a LITTLE USABLE ZOOM. And you right you may have got that shot witht the 55 or 14B, but when that little bird flew 10' to a close bush, then you would have been tring to grab the B-300 or the C-210. Thats way usable zoom and power together is a big issuse.
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Olympus C-2100
Canon TL-55(1.4X),B-300,TCON-14, A-200, C-180,
C-210 & Adorama 2X Teleconverter (Junk)
If they make it, I STACK-IT
Dreaming about a TCON-300
 
James C. Whiteside III said:
For example, the TL-55 gives you 50% usable zoom. That means you
can zoom in and out from 380-190 without vinigating.

But you must realize that you are really getting 532-266.

When looking over that chart, its a excellent guide. Though I would
argue a little with the quality ratings. But I think that price and
power was taken into consideration when rating so thats way there a
little off.

Like the A-200, its a excellent lens for close work, but useless
when shoting distant shots. At close distance I would rate it a
8.5, but at distance I would rate it a 4. Its hard to just state
that in a chart. Like the C-210, I would rate it a 8 in the center
of the image and a 6 on the outer edges. But since it vintages and
its fog, I would probally give it a 7 or 7.5. It really depends on
how you use the lens, so use the chart as a guide not the bible.

For example the TCON-14B and the TL-55 are probally two if the
clearest lens that can be used on the C-2100, but they are only
1.4X.
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How does the zoom rante on the 14B compare to the TL-55?

Where the B-300 is only a hair below and its a 1.7X. So
James C. Whiteside III said:
inturn the B-300 is going to get you a better image at 600mm than
the 14B or the 55 since they would have to be cropped to get the
same image.
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Olympus C-2100
Canon TL-55(1.4X),B-300,TCON-14, A-200, C-180,
C-210 & Adorama 2X Teleconverter (Junk)
If they make it, I STACK-IT
Dreaming about a TCON-300
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C2100,C-2020, D-40, PS6
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You answered my other post in this post. You both have been very helpful here.
James C. Whiteside III said:
When using the Tl-55 and the TCON-14B, your right both give good
usable zoom. I would rate both at around 60-55% actually. The 14B
may be just a hair more. Though the TCON-14 and the A-200 do cut
off around the 50% mark.

Though I find with my B-300, I get around 28% give or take
depending on which stepup ring I am using. Thats a little more than
a LITTLE USABLE ZOOM. And you right you may have got that shot
witht the 55 or 14B, but when that little bird flew 10' to a close
bush, then you would have been tring to grab the B-300 or the
C-210. Thats way usable zoom and power together is a big issuse.
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Olympus C-2100
Canon TL-55(1.4X),B-300,TCON-14, A-200, C-180,
C-210 & Adorama 2X Teleconverter (Junk)
If they make it, I STACK-IT
Dreaming about a TCON-300
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C2100,C-2020, D-40, PS6
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http://www.pbase.com/stinson


 
I just looked at the lens the other day. Thats actually probally my next investment. I dont think your going to get the quality or usable zoom like the other Canon lens or the B-300, But its only one way to try a lens out and that is shooting with it.

As far as the size, the bigger the better. That usually means you will get a little more usable zoom usally, but I noticed that the TC-58 seemed to have a smaller than normal glass hole for the back and its over all size was a little smaller to. It may be a light rober, but I dont know. The TCON-300, I think it takes a 49-62 step up ring, so the 58 will be no problem.

As for the B-300, they go for under $200 all the time on ebay. There was three sold two weeks ago that never reach 200. I got mine (NEW) off ebay and had it shipped for $200. They are there, you just have to look for them.
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Olympus C-2100
Canon TL-55(1.4X),B-300,TCON-14, A-200, C-180,
C-210 & Adorama 2X Teleconverter (Junk)
If they make it, I STACK-IT
Dreaming about a TCON-300
 
I was dealing in Ballpark figures to give a general idea of what I've read & might have to keep an eye open for that TL55 & or 14b (if a cheap one arrises) but will proobably try to get a wide-angle adapter or true B-macro/A-lifesize 1st. None of those would probably be used by me as much as the B-300 or C-210 though...Quite honestly, I've been very underwhelmed with the very few examples I've seen from the T-Con 300 on the Uzi. Seems softer than the B-300 & the CA was even worse than anything I've gotten with the C-210. I'm also not prepared to build the required scaffolding to hang it....LOL.... I've only seen 2 or 3 pics from it though...
James C. Whiteside III said:
When using the Tl-55 and the TCON-14B, your right both give good
usable zoom. I would rate both at around 60-55% actually. The 14B
may be just a hair more. Though the TCON-14 and the A-200 do cut
off around the 50% mark.

Though I find with my B-300, I get around 28% give or take
depending on which stepup ring I am using. Thats a little more than
a LITTLE USABLE ZOOM. And you right you may have got that shot
witht the 55 or 14B, but when that little bird flew 10' to a close
bush, then you would have been tring to grab the B-300 or the
C-210. Thats way usable zoom and power together is a big issuse.
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Olympus C-2100
Canon TL-55(1.4X),B-300,TCON-14, A-200, C-180,
C-210 & Adorama 2X Teleconverter (Junk)
If they make it, I STACK-IT
Dreaming about a TCON-300
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James,

I see that you have a c-180. How would you rate the picture quality through the full range of zoom when matched up with the c2100. Thanks in advance.

Brendon
James C. Whiteside III said:
When using the Tl-55 and the TCON-14B, your right both give good
usable zoom. I would rate both at around 60-55% actually. The 14B
may be just a hair more. Though the TCON-14 and the A-200 do cut
off around the 50% mark.

Though I find with my B-300, I get around 28% give or take
depending on which stepup ring I am using. Thats a little more than
a LITTLE USABLE ZOOM. And you right you may have got that shot
witht the 55 or 14B, but when that little bird flew 10' to a close
bush, then you would have been tring to grab the B-300 or the
C-210. Thats way usable zoom and power together is a big issuse.
--
Olympus C-2100
Canon TL-55(1.4X),B-300,TCON-14, A-200, C-180,
C-210 & Adorama 2X Teleconverter (Junk)
If they make it, I STACK-IT
Dreaming about a TCON-300
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The tiffin is a decent lens if your using a smaller zoom camera like 3X or close, but it will not work on the C-2100. It just can not handle the C-2100 zoom which is already 10X

As for the B-300, I think you will be happy. Its good to by one of the best first and then add on. Were most seem to start at the bottom and later own get better stuff.

I know this lens testing it EXPENSIVE. I could probally have a New Nikon 8X or used D30 for what I have put into extrea lens. Though most of the ones I did not liked I moved on, but its hard to get your money back on them unless its a GOOD lens or you got it at a good buy to begin with.
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Olympus C-2100
Canon TL-55(1.4X),B-300,TCON-14, A-200, C-180,
C-210 & Adorama 2X Teleconverter (Junk)
If they make it, I STACK-IT
Dreaming about a TCON-300
 
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