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... and – surprise, surprise – the Oly got along quite well with the Nikon.

The reason for me to complement my m4/3 system with a Nikon 1 camera was the excellent 30-110 mm tele zoom. It's way better than my PL 45-200. It's also much smaller and the VR is much better than OIS.

I posted a lot of pictures in the Nikon 1 system forum in case you want to have a look at wild tigers, people, street shots, Taj Mahal and other various stuff.
http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1058&message=41066279

Regards
Lasse
 
I enjoyed watching all of them. Some are brilliant. I should me more specific, I know. Thanks for posting them.

Bas
Lasse Eisele said:
... and – surprise, surprise – the Oly got along quite well with the Nikon.

The reason for me to complement my m4/3 system with a Nikon 1 camera was the excellent 30-110 mm tele zoom. It's way better than my PL 45-200. It's also much smaller and the VR is much better than OIS.

I posted a lot of pictures in the Nikon 1 system forum in case you want to have a look at wild tigers, people, street shots, Taj Mahal and other various stuff.
http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1058&message=41066279

Regards
Lasse
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Lasse, very nice shots and some are very good. I have not been very excited by the V-1 but do have a lot of very good Nikon glass to go with the FT-1 . I am planning on the E-M5, 12-50kit, 45 1.8, 9-18.100-300 and 25 1.4 but for the less money I can get the V1 with the two lens kit/FT-1 and an EP3 with the 14-42, 40-150 kit, 45 1.8 and VF-2.

That was a real bonus getting the Tiger shots :)

Tough Decisions.
Cheers,
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Tom
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Nice work!

Looks like the V1 did well. I'm planning to get one of those at some point for my wife, and for use with my Nikon telephoto lenses.
 
First of all, great pics. You have a great eye and really delivered here.

Second, I was surprised to prefer the look (color depth, richness) over the Oly. People say a lot of things about sensor size in regards to the V1. It takes great pics though.
 
Those photos do look good. The V1 shots look richer than the EP1 shots - was this JPG or RAW? I have heard that the Nikon 1 work very well as a telephoto system, I think I read this on bythom, with (non 1 system) Nikon glass due to the crop.
 
tommiejeep said:
Lasse, very nice shots and some are very good. I have not been very excited by the V-1 but do have a lot of very good Nikon glass to go with the FT-1 . I am planning on the E-M5, 12-50kit, 45 1.8, 9-18.100-300 and 25 1.4 but for the less money I can get the V1 with the two lens kit/FT-1 and an EP3 with the 14-42, 40-150 kit, 45 1.8 and VF-2.

That was a real bonus getting the Tiger shots :)
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Indeed, loved those tiger images, but liked all
tommiejeep said:
Tough Decisions.
Cheers,
--
Anticipate the Light and wing it when you get it wrong

Tom
http://taja.smugmug.com/
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God always take the simplest way.
 
Your comments are certainly much appreciated.

Some additional information:

I shoot raw only. Most of the images were converted with RPP (Raw Photo Processor, Mac only). Some of the high contrast images were converted with PS CS4. The highlight recovery and fill light features in ACR are very useful and convenient, but RPP delivers better colours (or maybe I should say colour transitions), in my opinion.

Some of you seemed to like the V1 images better. Personally, I like the Oly colours very much. Anyway, the Nikon 1 system is highly competent in many ways and rather poor in other ways. Just like m4/3. I intend to keep both systems and use them together. M4/3 for the wide end and Nikon 1 for the long end (even for the very long end, using my long Nikon lenses with the FT1 adapter).

Regards
Lasse
 
tommiejeep said:
Lasse, very nice shots and some are very good. I have not been very excited by the V-1 but do have a lot of very good Nikon glass to go with the FT-1 . I am planning on the E-M5, 12-50kit, 45 1.8, 9-18.100-300 and 25 1.4 but for the less money I can get the V1 with the two lens kit/FT-1 and an EP3 with the 14-42, 40-150 kit, 45 1.8 and VF-2.

That was a real bonus getting the Tiger shots :)

Tough Decisions.
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That is a tough decision indeed. Let's see if I can make it even tougher. :)
Here's an image taken with the V1 and 300/4 + TV14EII:



Please note that the image was taken at 1/20 s with an 1134 mm equivalent lens. The V1 is totally vibration free! Totally silent too, if that is important to you (it is to me).

V1 is very strong at the long end in my opinion. The 30-110 mm lens is a gem and the ability to use DSLR lenses is a real bonus.
M4/3 is strong at the wide end and also offers some excellent primes.

So, how do you intend to use the camera? And why did you rule out Panasonic? You can get a G3 for less than half the price of the E-M5. I suggest you check out the ergonomy and user interface of those two cameras before you make your decision. I don't know much about the E-M5 but I have to tell you that the menu system of my Oly E-P1 must have been created by the Devil himself. And I believe it was the same guy who wrote the manual. I tell you, I have spent more time with the E-P1 manual than with all my other camera manuals taken together. Very frustrating. But Oly colours are lovely. :)

Kind regards
Lasse
 
Lasse Eisele said:
tommiejeep said:
Lasse, very nice shots and some are very good. I have not been very excited by the V-1 but do have a lot of very good Nikon glass to go with the FT-1 . I am planning on the E-M5, 12-50kit, 45 1.8, 9-18.100-300 and 25 1.4 but for the less money I can get the V1 with the two lens kit/FT-1 and an EP3 with the 14-42, 40-150 kit, 45 1.8 and VF-2.

That was a real bonus getting the Tiger shots :)

Tough Decisions.
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That is a tough decision indeed. Let's see if I can make it even tougher. :)
Here's an image taken with the V1 and 300/4 + TV14EII:



Please note that the image was taken at 1/20 s with an 1134 mm equivalent lens. The V1 is totally vibration free! Totally silent too, if that is important to you (it is to me).
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The image is good for such shutter speed and focal length, but please explain how you get 1134mm, a converter ?
Lasse Eisele said:
V1 is very strong at the long end in my opinion. The 30-110 mm lens is a gem and the ability to use DSLR lenses is a real bonus.
M4/3 is strong at the wide end and also offers some excellent primes.

So, how do you intend to use the camera? And why did you rule out Panasonic? You can get a G3 for less than half the price of the E-M5. I suggest you check out the ergonomy and user interface of those two cameras before you make your decision. I don't know much about the E-M5 but I have to tell you that the menu system of my Oly E-P1 must have been created by the Devil himself. And I believe it was the same guy who wrote the manual. I tell you, I have spent more time with the E-P1 manual than with all my other camera manuals taken together. Very frustrating. But Oly colours are lovely. :)

Kind regards
Lasse
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Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication.

God is the tangential point between zero and infinity.

Imagination is more important than knowledge.

God always take the simplest way.
 
and the pictures he shot with them, becaue of him and the camera, are very good indeed.

I just wonder why he says that the 30110 is better than anything m43s has in store. Or heseems to say that. It this true. I thought 45-200 is not good, but the 100-300 seems to be a good lens? So, I wonder...Also how it compares to the 45-175 and Oly's equivalent lenses.
 
Lasse Eisele said:
So, how do you intend to use the camera? And why did you rule out Panasonic? You can get a G3 for less than half the price of the E-M5. I suggest you check out the ergonomy and user interface of those two cameras before you make your decision. I don't know much about the E-M5 but I have to tell you that the menu system of my Oly E-P1 must have been created by the Devil himself. And I believe it was the same guy who wrote the manual. I tell you, I have spent more time with the E-P1 manual than with all my other camera manuals taken together. Very frustrating. But Oly colours are lovely. :)
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I hear you on that one, but I think the G3's menu is much worse than any recent Oly that I've used (mainly E-PL2 and E-P3). Otherwise, the camera does have some nice handling traits. The menu, though, is downright unusable without having the manual handy.
 
Lasse, I will continue to use my Nikons for Sport and Wildlife(mostly birds). The G3 has been recommended by another friend but Pany Support in India is supposed to be very bad and I really was looking at Fuji and Oly colours. For instance I can get any of the Oly m34 lenses but none of the Pany lenses :(

I will use the m43 primarily for travel, walkabout and the beach since the Nikon gear is getting heavy (ier) in my dotage :) . I have a feeling that since the N1 system is selling well there may eventually be some improvements and better lenses. The idea of putting the 500vr w/tc on the V1/FT-1 and getting the 2.7 crop does sound like fun!

Nice shot :) Tripod?
Many thanks ,

ps On another forum a guy put the V1/FT-1 on the Sigmonster!!! Effective 2160mm!

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Anticipate the Light and wing it when you get it wrong
Tom
http://taja.smugmug.com/
 
Jorginho said:
and the pictures he shot with them, becaue of him and the camera, are very good indeed.

I just wonder why he says that the 30110 is better than anything m43s has in store. Or heseems to say that. It this true. I thought 45-200 is not good, but the 100-300 seems to be a good lens? So, I wonder...Also how it compares to the 45-175 and Oly's equivalent lenses.
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I'm sure the 100-300 is good, but it belongs in a different category, in my opinion. Not very suitable as a walkabout lens. The Nikon 30-110 corresponds to 40-150 mm for m4/3. It was recently tested at slrgear.com with excellent results. But there is more to it than just optical performance. I also factor in size, AF speed and stabilisation. The 30-110 is very, very good in these respects as well.

I haven't tried the new 45-175, but my expectations are not very high. The regular 4/3 ZD 40-150 4-5.6 is optically a very good performer though (I own that lens), but AF is very slow on m4/3. And of course, it's not stabilised on Panasonic bodies.

Regards
Lasse
 
Aleo Veuliah said:
The image is good for such shutter speed and focal length, but please explain how you get 1134mm, a converter ?
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300 mm + 1.4 TC + 2.7 crop factor = 1134. Of course I used a tripod and a remote release. Even so, it would have been difficult to get a tack sharp image with a traditional mechanical shutter at 1/20 s (and almost impossible with a DSLR – you would probably need two tripods, one to support the body and one to support the front of the lens).

Regards
Lasse
 
itairom said:
Lasse Eisele said:
So, how do you intend to use the camera? And why did you rule out Panasonic? You can get a G3 for less than half the price of the E-M5. I suggest you check out the ergonomy and user interface of those two cameras before you make your decision. I don't know much about the E-M5 but I have to tell you that the menu system of my Oly E-P1 must have been created by the Devil himself. And I believe it was the same guy who wrote the manual. I tell you, I have spent more time with the E-P1 manual than with all my other camera manuals taken together. Very frustrating. But Oly colours are lovely. :)
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I hear you on that one, but I think the G3's menu is much worse than any recent Oly that I've used (mainly E-PL2 and E-P3). Otherwise, the camera does have some nice handling traits. The menu, though, is downright unusable without having the manual handy.
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That's surprising (and disappointing) to me. My G1 is very easy to use with excellent external controls and I have only occasionally needed to check the manual. Image quality is not that great above base ISO though, so I had been thinking of getting a G3 (they can be had dirt cheap now). Hmmm. What to do now? The E-M5 is a bit pricey, I think.

Regards
Lasse
 
Lasse Eisele said:
Lasse Eisele said:
I hear you on that one, but I think the G3's menu is much worse than any recent Oly that I've used (mainly E-PL2 and E-P3). Otherwise, the camera does have some nice handling traits. The menu, though, is downright unusable without having the manual handy.
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That's surprising (and disappointing) to me. My G1 is very easy to use with excellent external controls and I have only occasionally needed to check the manual. Image quality is not that great above base ISO though, so I had been thinking of getting a G3 (they can be had dirt cheap now). Hmmm. What to do now? The E-M5 is a bit pricey, I think.

Regards
Lasse
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Well - check Yourself before believing anyone. I don't have any issues with G3 menu and with customizable qmenu I very rarely use it at all. EM5 may be superior to G3 in several aspects but for me it doesn't justify almost triple price.
 
tommiejeep said:
Lasse, I will continue to use my Nikons for Sport and Wildlife(mostly birds). The G3 has been recommended by another friend but Pany Support in India is supposed to be very bad and I really was looking at Fuji and Oly colours. For instance I can get any of the Oly m34 lenses but none of the Pany lenses :(
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I understand, it will have to be Oly then. I hope they have improved the user interface since the E-P1. Oly colours are indeed very nice and you can even shoot JPEG with little penalty, if you want to.
tommiejeep said:
I will use the m43 primarily for travel, walkabout and the beach since the Nikon gear is getting heavy (ier) in my dotage :) . I have a feeling that since the N1 system is selling well there may eventually be some improvements and better lenses. The idea of putting the 500vr w/tc on the V1/FT-1 and getting the 2.7 crop does sound like fun!
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It's indeed very fun, although it works best with static or slow moving subjects (continous focus isn't available with the FT1 and you can only use the centre focus point, unfortunately). The best thing is that you get totally vibration free performance, which means you can get tack sharp images at any shutter speed even with a lightweight tripod. You will get almost the same reach with a 24 MP D400 – if it ever materializes – but then you will likely have to stay away from certain shutter speeds if you want sharp images.
tommiejeep said:
Nice shot :) Tripod?
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Tripod and the infrared remote control. And 1/20 s!

Regards
Lasse
 
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