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I was just at a lunch with a bunch of friends, sampling some Korean tacos. A couple fellow photographers were in attendance. I mentioned I had just bought a micro four thirds camera, a G3 with the 14-42 X lens. One guy was eager to give it a try. The other one dismissed it, saying that micro four thirds was not a cost effective option. I looked down at his hands and said,

"...says the guy shooting medium format film," referring to his Mamiya film camera. I'm glad there was another photographer there to appreciate how funny this comment was!
 
I think the G3 is a very 'cost effective' camera... whatever that means. €479 including a lens is not much for what it delivers (compared to almost similar price for high end compacts). It is a bit more expensive when you factor in your X-lens which is not bundled with the G3, unfortunately.
Devorama said:
I was just at a lunch with a bunch of friends, sampling some Korean tacos. A couple fellow photographers were in attendance. I mentioned I had just bought a micro four thirds camera, a G3 with the 14-42 X lens. One guy was eager to give it a try. The other one dismissed it, saying that micro four thirds was not a cost effective option. I looked down at his hands and said,

"...says the guy shooting medium format film," referring to his Mamiya film camera. I'm glad there was another photographer there to appreciate how funny this comment was!
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Bilgy_no1 said:
I think the G3 is a very 'cost effective' camera... whatever that means. €479 including a lens is not much for what it delivers (compared to almost similar price for high end compacts). It is a bit more expensive when you factor in your X-lens which is not bundled with the G3, unfortunately.
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Well I lucked out and got the GF3 plus the X lens for $350 on ebay as a new but probably grey market item. I can probably sell the GF3 body for $200, so the X lens will cost about $150 in the end. Cheaper than a used 14-45mm!
 
I get funny reactions to my E-P1 all the time; for example, comments like "why do you use a big old camera like that?" and "wow, does that take film?"

m4/3 is very much on the fringes around where I live.
 
hindesite said:
I get funny reactions to my E-P1 all the time; for example, comments like "why do you use a big old camera like that?" and "wow, does that take film?"

m4/3 is very much on the fringes around where I live.
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I was taking pictures two weekends ago and a woman asked me what kind of acmera it was. The E-PM1 does look pretty unusual when you are using the VF-3 viewfinder and the 25mm f/1.4 lens with the funny square lens hood.

She thought it was a DSLR.
 
Thanks for the story!

M43 might not be as cost-effective as a budget dslr but it is certainly competitive compared to some fancier options.

Went to the zoo yesterday and saw a couple of dslrs around, but also saw a lot of M43 cameras, a few pens, a couple of GH2s. We're growing!
 
Devorama said:
... The other one dismissed it, saying that micro four thirds was not a cost effective option.
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Strangely I got my first m4/3rds, the Lumix G1 precisely because it was the most cost-effective way to get precise and dependable manual-focus for 50mmF1.8 lenses.

A DSLR with AF 50mm was way too expensive, a DSLR with OVF was giving me missed focus too often.

G1 £135
50mm Cosinon £4
Adapter £13
Total package £152 = Cost effective.
 
Actually, that is a big point - manual focus on (older) DSLRs is really, really bad. Most are now so dependent on AF that they don't even come standard with focus aids (like split prism, microprisms) in the viewfinder glass. In film days, these aids got you good manual focus almost 100% of the time.

Without those aids, I just cannot see why some people rave about OVFs.

Until Live View became an option, focus was very much dependent on AF doing everything.
 
Acrill said:
Went to the zoo yesterday and saw a couple of dslrs around, but also saw a lot of M43 cameras, a few pens, a couple of GH2s. We're growing!
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I went to the zoo about a week ago. I'd say m43 was easily the most popular 'system' in use (most visitors were using P&S or would you believe Smartphones). The odd CaNikon DSLR being hauled about, but nowhere near as many as the m43 brigade.

Mostly Panny Gs though - G2/G3/GF1.

Only 2 other PEN users other than me... all 3 were white body colour (!)

Interestingly, there were a couple of Oly 43 Zuiko Digital 40-150mm on adapters being used as well, one on a G2 and the other on an E-P3, and they seemed to be acquiring focus pretty quick.
 
sigala1 said:
hindesite said:
I get funny reactions to my E-P1 all the time; for example, comments like "why do you use a big old camera like that?" and "wow, does that take film?"

m4/3 is very much on the fringes around where I live.
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I was taking pictures two weekends ago and a woman asked me what kind of acmera it was. The E-PM1 does look pretty unusual when you are using the VF-3 viewfinder and the 25mm f/1.4 lens with the funny square lens hood.

She thought it was a DSLR.
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Next time, tell them that it is a new Olympus DSLR, but you use it in live mode all the time. And that its got a super quick live mode, unlike other DSLRs.
 
What is funny about it?

m4/3 is not a cost effective solution. Canon 50mm F1.8 AF lens costs $120. Many DSLR lenses will cost less than comparable m4/3 lenses.

Film Medium format, on the other hand, is a cost effective solution. That is compared to digital medium format.

What was funny for me - Korean tacos. I've been in Korea many times and there was no any taco. I just googled it and found that this is actually American thing.
 
micksh6 said:
What is funny about it?

m4/3 is not a cost effective solution. Canon 50mm F1.8 AF lens costs $120. Many DSLR lenses will cost less than comparable m4/3 lenses.
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By DSLR do you mean APS or (I hate this term) FF? How much is a 30/1.4 for a 7D of equivalent quality to the Panaleica 25/1.4? Or if you insist, call it a 30/2.0. Regardless, the Sigma 30/1.4 doesn't count.
micksh6 said:
Film Medium format, on the other hand, is a cost effective solution. That is compared to digital medium format.
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Have you checked the price of 120 Velvia lately? Just under $6 for 12 exposures as 6x6. And then processing. And scanning. It adds up quickly!

It is, however, totally worth it!
micksh6 said:
What was funny for me - Korean tacos. I've been in Korea many times and there was no any taco. I just googled it and found that this is actually American thing.
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Likewise. Didn't google it, but does it involve kimchee (shudder)?

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to shoot with medium format film then mFT is not cost effective.

It would be like somebody who drives a car saying that a bicycle or airplane, or skateboard is not cost effective.

It would be like saying "eating a chicken is not an effectively way to get your daily intake of veggies"
 
400trix said:
micksh6 said:
What is funny about it?

m4/3 is not a cost effective solution. Canon 50mm F1.8 AF lens costs $120. Many DSLR lenses will cost less than comparable m4/3 lenses.
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By DSLR do you mean APS or (I hate this term) FF? How much is a 30/1.4 for a 7D of equivalent quality to the Panaleica 25/1.4? Or if you insist, call it a 30/2.0. Regardless, the Sigma 30/1.4 doesn't count.
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APS-C. Nikon 35mm F1.8 - $200. Canon 35mm F2.0 - $330. For every other type of lens there are cheaper DSLR equivalents.

85mm F1.8 costs about $400 for both. Compare it with upcoming Olympus 75mm F1.8 which is not available yet but which will cost between $800 and $1000.
400trix said:
400trix said:
Film Medium format, on the other hand, is a cost effective solution. That is compared to digital medium format.
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Have you checked the price of 120 Velvia lately? Just under $6 for 12 exposures as 6x6. And then processing. And scanning. It adds up quickly!

It is, however, totally worth it!
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4.5x6 is also good. Processing is cheap. For scanning there are options. If one shoots less than 1000 shots per year it will take many years until MF film camera ownership price will become comparable with digital. After these years current digital camera will probably become obsolete.
400trix said:
400trix said:
What was funny for me - Korean tacos. I've been in Korea many times and there was no any taco. I just googled it and found that this is actually American thing.
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Likewise. Didn't google it, but does it involve kimchee (shudder)?
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It may but I doubt it's close to real Korean kimchi. There is no taco dough in Korean cuisine. I doubt people who know how to make kimchi will bother with taco.
 
Devorama said:
Bilgy_no1 said:
I think the G3 is a very 'cost effective' camera... whatever that means. €479 including a lens is not much for what it delivers (compared to almost similar price for high end compacts). It is a bit more expensive when you factor in your X-lens which is not bundled with the G3, unfortunately.
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Well I lucked out and got the GF3 plus the X lens for $350 on ebay as a new but probably grey market item. I can probably sell the GF3 body for $200, so the X lens will cost about $150 in the end. Cheaper than a used 14-45mm!
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Superb deal!

I still think that Panasonic should bundle more cameras with the X-kit lens as the standard and at the normal kit price. That would give a camera like the GF5 (tba shortly) a huge advantage over competitors.
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And a legacy 50mm f1.8 lens for £30. Try getting that shallow DoF with a compact. I think it's cost effective.
 
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