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would u really buy a x-100 instead of 24mm 1.8 CZ
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kev777zero
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fuji x-100 is an older model than nex-5n....and since many seem to think 5n has the best sensor around, isn't better sensor+better lens make it obviously better image quality? although at the same time this combo costs more (more resale value too)
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If all you care about is IQ then I imagine the edge goes to the 5n/24. Though the X100 has a few advantages there, including its vastly superior JPEG engine.
If you care about the experience of shooting, and the X100 sounds like something you'd enjoy using, then there's no competition. If it doesn't sound like something you'd like, then there's no competition in the other direction!
If you care about the experience of shooting, and the X100 sounds like something you'd enjoy using, then there's no competition. If it doesn't sound like something you'd like, then there's no competition in the other direction!
For pure image quality the 5n / 24mm Is better IMO, whether you would really notice the difference is another thing, the X100 is a great camer, small and fun to use, the 5n with the 24mm felt a little odd, no great to handle.
There are a lot of reasons to go for one of those cameras
Sony 5n+ 24mm 1.8
You can add more lenses, so have a more versatile system
You have some nice extra features, like HHT, Panorama, AHDR etc)
It has a tiltable LCD
It has the best sensor at this date
It has 16 MP vs 12 MP
But maybe the most important thing is: when a newer body comes out, with more features, better IQ etc, you can change the body only and keep your lenses...
Fuji x100
Cost less then the 5n +34mm lens
There will come no dust on the sensor (but when it comes on it will be very hard to remove)
Is a smaller camera, but I find it hard to believe people put a 445 grams $1100,-- camera in their pocket)
The lens is great
You get a VF
I will not tell a thing about IQ as I don't own one of these cameras or lenses.
For me a camera with a fixed focus lenscosting over $ 1000,-- is just not flexable enough. and then when a new camera comes out with a better sensor, more features, better handling, I have to pay again the full price and not the body only price.
I think it is easier to sell a Nex5n camera secondhand then the Fuji as the Nex5n (without the CZ lens) will be cheaper and more versatile.
But when you only want a 24mm lens and the (excelent) sensor of the Fuji is enough for you then it is a good choice I think.
Sony 5n+ 24mm 1.8
You can add more lenses, so have a more versatile system
You have some nice extra features, like HHT, Panorama, AHDR etc)
It has a tiltable LCD
It has the best sensor at this date
It has 16 MP vs 12 MP
But maybe the most important thing is: when a newer body comes out, with more features, better IQ etc, you can change the body only and keep your lenses...
Fuji x100
Cost less then the 5n +34mm lens
There will come no dust on the sensor (but when it comes on it will be very hard to remove)
Is a smaller camera, but I find it hard to believe people put a 445 grams $1100,-- camera in their pocket)
The lens is great
You get a VF
I will not tell a thing about IQ as I don't own one of these cameras or lenses.
For me a camera with a fixed focus lenscosting over $ 1000,-- is just not flexable enough. and then when a new camera comes out with a better sensor, more features, better handling, I have to pay again the full price and not the body only price.
I think it is easier to sell a Nex5n camera secondhand then the Fuji as the Nex5n (without the CZ lens) will be cheaper and more versatile.
But when you only want a 24mm lens and the (excelent) sensor of the Fuji is enough for you then it is a good choice I think.
papillon_65
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and haven't regretted it for one moment.
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papillon_65
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Nope, the X100 has the better IQ IMHO and I have both.
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papillon_65
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Personally I think the X100 has the better overall IQ, the lens on it is excellent and the Zeiss is no star for landscape shooting from what I have seen. The X100 is a better all rounder. You also get superb flash capability on the X100 and an excellent ovf. If I had to choose between them it would be the X100 every time.
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John Bean (UK)
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Leaping Carp
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Definitely yes. To help you out I'll take your NEX-5N off your hands for $100. Just to help you mind. I won't be trading in my my NEX-5 for a while. The differences in IQ aren't really worth much to me whether it's NEX vs. NEX or x100 or whatever. I'm already at a level I'm happy with and unlike some I really like the way the camera handles 
John Bean (UK)
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In that case call me a liar ;-)
My X100 is carried in a pocket more often than not; I carry a NEX the same way, but it needs a much bigger, baggier pocket ;-)
PS: I'm not talking about jeans pockets here, for either camera.
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kev777zero
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I'm just sharing what I saw from months of forum threads. since you have both, it'd be nice if you can post test shots of them!
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I think if you answer for yourself the following questions about your preferences, it might clarify your choice.
Do you want to shoot raw or jpeg? If you want to shoot jpegs, the X100 will produce more pleasing results. Fuji wins on Jpegs. (With dedication and experience you can create very nice jpegs from raw processors yourself. But will you do that?)
Do you really need the best high ISO images? Both are good, but Fuji is better, even though the sensor technology is older. (At least if we are still talking about jpegs.)
Would you do better with a stabilization than the very best high ISO? Some sony lenses will give it to you. (Other lenses won't.)
Do you mind sending in you X100 for excellent customer service if a very likely problem develops with your aperture blades? Fuji will fix it, but you'll have to go without the camera for a few days while they do. Fuji might require repair.
Do you mind missing shots because you couldn't focus fast enough? Neither camera is stellar in this department, but Fuji is definitely worse. Sony wins on AF.
Do you intend to do much manual focus? Fuji X100 features the worst manual focus experience, Sony easily features the best manual focus experience, between manual lenses and focus peaking, or even Sony focus by wire is still better than Fuji.
Do you need a more responsive camera from shot to shot? Sony wins that hands down.
Get the fastest possible storage card for the Fuji to mitigate the problem a little.
Do you need an absolutely silent shutter? Fuji.
Do you want to be more discreet in shooting, or hold the camera more steadily by looking down at the flip up LCD? Sony.
Do you value seeing information outside the frame of the picture about to walk into the frame? Fuji OVF can do that for you.
Do you want to shoot raw or jpeg? If you want to shoot jpegs, the X100 will produce more pleasing results. Fuji wins on Jpegs. (With dedication and experience you can create very nice jpegs from raw processors yourself. But will you do that?)
Do you really need the best high ISO images? Both are good, but Fuji is better, even though the sensor technology is older. (At least if we are still talking about jpegs.)
Would you do better with a stabilization than the very best high ISO? Some sony lenses will give it to you. (Other lenses won't.)
Do you mind sending in you X100 for excellent customer service if a very likely problem develops with your aperture blades? Fuji will fix it, but you'll have to go without the camera for a few days while they do. Fuji might require repair.
Do you mind missing shots because you couldn't focus fast enough? Neither camera is stellar in this department, but Fuji is definitely worse. Sony wins on AF.
Do you intend to do much manual focus? Fuji X100 features the worst manual focus experience, Sony easily features the best manual focus experience, between manual lenses and focus peaking, or even Sony focus by wire is still better than Fuji.
Do you need a more responsive camera from shot to shot? Sony wins that hands down.
Get the fastest possible storage card for the Fuji to mitigate the problem a little.
Do you need an absolutely silent shutter? Fuji.
Do you want to be more discreet in shooting, or hold the camera more steadily by looking down at the flip up LCD? Sony.
Do you value seeing information outside the frame of the picture about to walk into the frame? Fuji OVF can do that for you.
papillon_65
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I'm fine with that, I'm just giving my opinion as I own and use them both. They're both great cameras IMHO but I'd give the edge in overall IQ to the X100, it's pretty much as good as it gets for a cropped sensor. I bought it because the camera is actually cheaper than the Zeiss on it's own in the UK, it seemed like a no-brainer to me. As for comparing shots from each, there are plenty of examples all over the net, it's just my opinion from using them both. The lens on the X100 is excellent and I think it does a better job overall.
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I've had the 5N, but not with the Zeiss 24mm. I've had the NEX-7 with the Zeiss 24mm. I have the X100. The X100 is a very special camera. 4MBytes will not really make any noticeable difference, but the X100 and the matched lens are magical. The NEX-7/24mm has the faster focus. I sent my NEX-7 back due to overheating and have another coming, so have yet to really test it with the 24mm.
No, because the auto focus sucks on the X100. In addition, the video is mediocre at best. With the 24 f/1.8 Zeiss, you not only get to enjoy it on a superior body like the 5N or 7, but you will be able to use it on future E mount bodies that will only get better over time.
The 24 f/1.8 Zeiss is an excellent lens, and while the X100 captures nice images, it is no NEX.
Just my opinions.
lowincash
Leading Member
It's a tough call, I had the NEX7 with the Zeiss 24mm lens and IQ is nice and sharp and fast to focus. However, for the price of the lens, you can pay a bit more for the X100 and get superb IQ as well. Fuji definitely has the upper hand with their JPEG IQ, love their color rendition. At first I was going to get the X100 but after trying it at the store I was very disappointed at how slow it focused and bulky feel. That's when I got the NEX7 + 24mm combo. I don't shoot RAW so having a nice JPEG engine is nice and that's why I was looking into Fuji first. If it wasn't for the slow focusing and numerous sticky aperture problem I think I would have gotten the X100. Then again, after using the NEX7 + 24mm combo, it's hard to let that go and go for the X100 =/
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