Proposed Changes to Challenges: Community Discussion

Started Mar 15, 2012 | Discussions thread
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Proposed Changes to Challenges: Community Discussion

Hey everyone,

Below is an outline of some proposed changes we are considering. Some of these are smaller modifications that have come up in the forums frequently, some are structural changes to hosting and voting intended to improve usability and effectiveness of challenges. Undoubtedly there will be ideas not covered here that have come up in the past, but we wanted to focus on what seemed to be the areas that most needed an update or overhaul:

Immediate Changes:

Voting Changes

  • Enable challenge entrants to vote on the challenges they enter, but not on their own entry

  • Introduce rollover help text for each voting level to display a description of what that score means (essentially, standardized scoring levels/meanings)

  • Introduce a button to allow voters to flag an entry as not fitting the challenge theme. After certain # of flags is reached, the entry is put on probation for the host to review.

  • Revise voting algorithm to account for partial voting and full voting by a single voter. In other words, votes cast by users that vote on entire set of images are given higher weighting than votes cast by users that vote on less or single entries.

Challenge Structure Changes

  • Introduction of an additional challenge type that the host chooses when creating a new challenge: the host can choose the challenge winner (removing the public vote)

  • Addition of optional challenge constraints on who can enter the challenge (selectable by challenge host): Minimum # of challenges entered

  • Addition of optional challenge constraint on who can vote on the challenge: Minimum # of challenges entered, and/or, minimum # of votes cast

  • Ability to limit challenge voting to contestants in the challenge

  • Introduction of monthly Dpr hosted challenges with giveaways (more info to come)

Challenge Host Features

  • Add the ability for a host to see a voter's vote spread (histogram), and the ability to disqualify from this interface (if there is suspicious voting). A single page would display all voters at once, displaying name, # of votes, histogram of distribution of votes.

  • Create a requirement for hosts to leave a comment on entries they disqualify (and make it visible to disqualified user)

General Changes

  • Ability for users to re-title their image and fix typos in image description (only before voting)

  • Ability for users to fill in EXIF data only when it is not automatically identified by DPR, and only before voting

  • Re-introduce challenge stats for users, with expanded view of data

  • Make photo description visible (and toggle-able) in slideshow view

  • Create a challenges search and explore page to enable users and visitors to scan challenge winners and contestants.

  • Enable users to "favorite" photos, and then see those photos in a single page.

  • Remove social buttons from voting pages (but keep on winners pages, and on challenge overview pages)

  • Introduction of a cap on the # of challenge slots available each week (to prevent too many chalenges from being created, and to hopefully increase activity in existing challenges)

Medium/long Term Changes:

  • creation of a new voting system that enables voters to view all entries in a new lightbox format, and then check off photos seen in full size that they wish to place in a top 5 or top 10 selection (photos marked for exclusion from top 10 would become slightly grayed out). Scoring would then be point driven, # of appearances in a top ten would determine # of points awarded. This format would de-emphasize the power of a single voter, but would likely require more voters to be effective. This format would also need new weighting algorithm to be created.

  • Creation of a challenge ideas voting board (akin to Digg, stackoverflow, etc..), allowing the community to propose challenge ideas, and then vote on which ideas get move into an active challenge first. In combination with the proposed cap on # of weekly challenges, the goal with his would be to ensure the most popular challenges ideas were running at all times.

  • introduction of some variation of user levels driven by activity (voting, challenge entries, hosting). Goal would be to recognize valuable members of the community. The scope and approach to this is still just a brainstorm on our side.

In terms of next steps, we'd like to begin working on some of the short term changes in the next few weeks. But before we do that, I'd like to get some feedback on what is outlined above, probably answer some questions, and boil down the list to what feels like the best mix of updates.

Please feel free to voice your support or concerns over any of the changes, there is no single solution and definitely no single correct way to do this. But my hope is that we can use this as an opportunity to correct some of the issues that have been going on, and also just improve the whole experience for everyone involved.

And lastly, it is important to note that these challenges are built for and ultimately driven by you, the community. So, anything we implement technically, we want to do so with an eye towards enabling the community to share great photography, inspire one another, and learn.



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