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Any REAL photographic advantage of an SLT?
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WaltKnapp
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How could that be? It's only basic physics of light.OMG the EVF is slower then the speed of light!
Walt, where are you. You were right after all!.
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Edward Sargent
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True, but I believee the A77 is the first camera to have it in this price range
In the viewfinder?
Cybershots and very expensive DSLRsThere are quieter cameras than SLT, even ones from Sony.
- Less noise (as in sound
We started this thread with the OP wanting improvements over A700 and the A77 does have more.
Not unique but by all the reviews I have seen it is the best so far
Can be, but has not. But again the point is the comparision with the A700
Can't argue that but to me it is an improvement
Yes, but it does reflect the possibilities with PP
And more expensive, > > - 100% field of view, size comparible to full frame
To get a 100% viewfinder that is as large as the A900 you need to go with an expensive system or buy a A77.
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Edward Sargent
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The OP was asking because he wants to ungrade an A700, A700 does not have live view.
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fulford
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Is this really a significant advantage. In a similar time as you could adjust for example exposure, I couid take a quick shot and look on the back, adjust and reshoot.
- Micro adjust
- Horizon level in viewfinder
- Less noise (as in sound
- More cross AF sensors
- Superb tilt screen
- HDR, Pano, 3D Pano, although I prefer the perfect lit shot, these gizmo's do add value
- See what you are really shooting (white balance, exposure etc) before you take the shot
Well it is a new camera and better for you in some ways and cost you $1000+ . So you should use it and resell the a700 to someone who will enjoy a great camera.
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cgarrard
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Danel is right, the secondary sensor system used in the A300/350/500/550/560/580 cameras was all phase detection auto focus when it was set to the Quick Auto Focus Live View mode. The A560 and A580 cameras added contrast detect AF on lenses with micro motors, namely just the Sony models.
So you could pan and shoot with the LCD activated in QAFLV mode, with phase detection AF.
One of the reasons why I like the A580 so much, just one of the many
Carl
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So you could pan and shoot with the LCD activated in QAFLV mode, with phase detection AF.
One of the reasons why I like the A580 so much, just one of the many
Carl
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One of the practical purposes of having an SLT vs. OVF is that you actually see what the sensor sees, not what you see. You can actually see the grain when you try to point it at a really dark area. You can also see how the picture is going ot be exposed based on the subject/AF point being used. You want to see how exposure compensation is going to affect shadows/highlights? You can actually see this happen in real time as you dial in the amounts of compensation. I actually think EVF is better in low light compared to OVF, because it actually acts like a semi nightvision (you can actually see something) whereas OVF you are limited on high good your eyesight is. And in very dark scenes, human eyesight is just not that good.
The next thing Sony needs to do is work around this slide show effect when you shoot high fps, or even have an EVF that doesnt black out at all during exposure.
The next thing Sony needs to do is work around this slide show effect when you shoot high fps, or even have an EVF that doesnt black out at all during exposure.
If not, add increased dynamic range and noise performance over your A700, the OLED is a revelation, and if you shoot fast subjects, the 12fps and cross type sensors are amazing.
sye46
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you're right, I was speaking in general live view tech from other companies and not specifically the A580. I realized it afterwards when I looked up the A580 but didn't want to post a follow up until someone caught it. thanks
D7000 has it. Canon 50D had it before that.
Nikon D7000 has it. It's L/R tilt only (not forward backward) and down in the info portion of the VF (not an overlay) so the SLT implementation is vastly better, but the D7000 implementation is vastly better than not having it at all
D7000 is as quiet or quieter than the A55 normally; in 'Q" mode much quieter. I'd be interested to compare it to the A77 (I've tried both cameras but not side by side).Cybershots and very expensive DSLRsThere are quieter cameras than SLT, even ones from Sony.
- Less noise (as in sound
But the thread subject asks if there's any photographic advantage to the SLT.
The advantages of SLT versus SLR are superior LV & video with PDAF, responsive shutter w/front electronic curtain, no mirror vibration.
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Your credibility took a dive, not his. Any review ever written always mentions that manual focusing is better with the main sensor lliveview than with using OVF (and A77 is full-time live view camera).
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and you think that filling this forum with your bitterness and hatred towards sony is going to make them change their minds, or serve any other useful purpose? we got the message already - years ago. give it a rest and get on with something constructive
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The_Wicker_Man
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correct - which means that an ovf is also slower than the "speed of light"How could that be? It's only basic physics of light.OMG the EVF is slower then the speed of light!
Walt, where are you. You were right after all!.
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Mike Fewster
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it has micro focus adjustment. This has to result in sharewr images with many lens.
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All Sony's new cameras have a feature called "focus peaking". It can only implemented on EVF. OVF can use split circle prism as a focusing aid, but you have to purchase it separately, from third party manufacturer.
The fact that I can see my exposure level in real time (especially in spot metering mode) and the depth of field without dimming the EVF helps a LOT when I'm shooting in a hurry.
Of secondary importance is the time I save doing panoramic shots. Sony did a really good shot with the in-camera image processing engine.
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tbcass
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I disagree. I find zooming in and focusing far easier than changing a screen.
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Glenn
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compared to the A77 the A700's vf is in fact small and dim. fact is fact
http://www.fotosource.com/downloads/flyer/eye_cancer_en_CA.pdf
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tbcass
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Apparently with focus peaking on the new SLT cameras fast and precise focusing is possible with the A65 & 77 cameras. I can't confirm since I've never used a camera that has that feature. I don't ever expect you to admit that an EVF could have any advantages at all since you're too stubborn for that but I can assure you that a well designed EVF does have some practical advantages. That said, for the time being OVF's have some advantages too.
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Look at the picture, not the pixels
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