Yikes! The rumored Nikon D800.

Started Oct 5, 2011 | Discussions thread
Skip M Veteran Member • Posts: 7,174
Re: Careful, Part II Well

Daniel Clune wrote:

If Nikon can put there top of the line focus plus 36 meg FF with weather sealing for 4 grand then why cant Canon? Nikon too has a top of the line D3x . If canon stays with the same lower end focus or even the 7D focus which would be pathetic on a FF sensor (remember 7D focus covers allot more area because of 1.6 sensor) then off to Nikon I finally go. I think many many others will do the same.

I wonder how many D3 sales Nikon loses to their own cameras? They end up competing with themselves. I have a feeling that Nikon uses the top line AF because it costs less to do so than it does to develope a separate one for the second tier bodies. Canon can afford to do so.

I think that "pathetic" is too strong a word. Less than desirable, at least for some, but not unexpected. What are you going to do with 45 points? Too many to select individually, too many to let them select themselves, zone selection is the only practical way to do it, I think.

Only people that wont are heavily invested in canon lenses. With canon lens prices going way up and are now more expensive than Nikons equivalent lenses not much reason to stay other than a few more F4 lenses from canon. Guess will see in the next 6 months or so.

Other people who will stick with Canon are ones who prefer the ergonomics of Canon, or people who prefer features that Canon adds to the 5d mkII successor. What are you going to do if Canon adds an articulated LCD, a better sensor than Nikon's (not saying they will, but what if) and a higher frame rate, but sticks with the 7D's AF? Still going to sell all your Canon stuff and buy a "D800?"

Skip M wrote:

amobi wrote:

These Fanboys are already begging Canon to put 7D AF on the next 5DIII. What a shame.

MM1 wrote:

thelensmeister wrote:

id love nikon to release this cause then surely Canon would HAVE to put the AF techonlogy of the 1d series into the 5d successor (or give us a 3D).

Or maybe they won't HAVE to. I'm afraid they will try to get away with including 7D AF (which has unlikely roots in 1D AF technology), and the fanboys will still jump with joy and rave about it. 13+ years after 45pt AF was designed.

I am not a fanboy, but I do recognize reality. The AF of the 7D would be a major improvement on the 5D, (heck, the AF of the 60D would be an improvement!) and, frankly, if Canon were to put everything you guys want in a 5D mkIII, you'd have a 1D mkIV. There's no way Canon will do that, since it would pirate sales from a much higher priced camera or they will have to charge as much for a 5D as they do a 1Ds. You wouldn't like the latter, would you? I mean, if they put the same sensor, the same AF and the same environmental sealing (the things I've read demanded here on this forum) what's the diferentiation? A smaller body? So, you want all of the top level stuff in a package that's not as big, leaving less room in which to stuff circuitry. Ya'll don't want much, do you?

The EOS3 of film days was an abberation, and I don't think that Canon is keen to repeat it. A camera with a higher frame rate, the same AF, eye controlled focus (which the 1v didn't have) in a body sealed to the levels of the 1v's predecessor, the 1n must surely have cut into the 1v sales in a major way. Why buy a 1v? For the downloadable file info? A few more custom functions? The EOS3 was far closer in spec to the 1 series of the day than any of its progenitors, like the A2/E/EOS5 or EOS10s were to the 1n and 1, respectively. On the other hand, the EOS5/A2/E and the 3 debuted the AF of the succeeding 1 series. So, who really knows.

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