The Emperor's New Clothes aka the E Mount Zeiss 24mm

Started Sep 17, 2011 | Discussions thread
Michael Kaufman
Michael Kaufman Senior Member • Posts: 2,735
Re: There's nothing I find more entertaining then the Anonymous Internet Expert

mynakedsoda wrote:

I like it when people are direct in what they have to say.

I like it when people are direct too, but as John von Neumann said, "there's no point in being precise if you don't know what you are talking about."

If you have a point then make it.

There's a certain class of posters on the internet. They have very strong opinions. They are happy to come to conclusions with the most preliminary information, and anyone who doesn't agree with them is a fool. And generally speaking, they don't seem to know as much about the topic they are posting on as they would like to believe. You apear to fit that mold very well.

Leaving aside the merits of coming to a conclusion on a lens based on a handful of pictures from a prerelease version of it and a prerelease version of the camera it is being used on, the fact that your biggest criticism of the photos is the bokeh means you are not as much of an expert as you seem to think you are. Anyone looking for great bokeh on a 24mm lens is going to be disappointed.

There are lots of things you could say about this shot if you wanted to, but dismissing the lens because you think the bokeh is not good enough just makes you look silly. To me.

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