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I have recently purchased an E20 and have noticed the buffer is quite slow to clear it seem to longer in time than the E10 I have sold. I am using a 128mb smartmedia and 64mb compactflash, Is this my imagination or have I missed something in the setup. I find with a fullbuffer I can wait a full minute for it to clear. Any advise please.
 
No, it's the same speed as the E10 but the images are bigger so they take longer to clear out. You would think that Olympus could have sped up the E-20 when they upgraded it from the E-10, but they just designed in the minimum to get it to work.

VJS
Colin Smith said:
I have recently purchased an E20 and have noticed the buffer is
quite slow to clear it seem to longer in time than the E10 I have
sold. I am using a 128mb smartmedia and 64mb compactflash, Is this
my imagination or have I missed something in the setup. I find with
a fullbuffer I can wait a full minute for it to clear. Any advise
please.
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Colin Smith said:
I have recently purchased an E20 and have noticed the buffer is
quite slow to clear
Click to expand...
Larger file - longer to clear. This has been cussed and discussed in depth ever since the E20 came out - surprised it is news to you.

Don't for get you can shoot another image the moment the first file clears the buffer, you don't have to wait for the buffer to clear completely.

Ed Oliver
 
Ed O said:
Colin Smith said:
I have recently purchased an E20 and have noticed the buffer is
quite slow to clear
Click to expand...
Larger file - longer to clear. This has been cussed and discussed
in depth ever since the E20 came out - surprised it is news to you.

Don't for get you can shoot another image the moment the first file
clears the buffer, you don't have to wait for the buffer to clear
completely.

Ed Oliver
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Have been away for some time so missed all the discussion on the subject, have to say, that I did'nt use the e20 in that time, when I used again the slowness of the buffer was most noticeable.
 
.... 8 or 9 full res shots in a minute, though, Colin!

It's not exactly machine gunning but not as bad as some make out and as has been pointed out the minute one shot clears the buffer you can take another.

Jim
Colin Smith said:
Ed O said:
Colin Smith said:
I have recently purchased an E20 and have noticed the buffer is
quite slow to clear
Click to expand...
Larger file - longer to clear. This has been cussed and discussed
in depth ever since the E20 came out - surprised it is news to you.

Don't for get you can shoot another image the moment the first file
clears the buffer, you don't have to wait for the buffer to clear
completely.

Ed Oliver
Click to expand...
Have been away for some time so missed all the discussion on the
subject, have to say, that I did'nt use the e20 in that time, when
I used again the slowness of the buffer was most noticeable.

--
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Jim Attfield said:
It's not exactly machine gunning but not as bad as some make out
and as has been pointed out the minute one shot clears the buffer
you can take another.

Jim
Colin Smith said:
Ed O said:
Colin Smith said:
I have recently purchased an E20 and have noticed the buffer is
quite slow to clear
Click to expand...
Larger file - longer to clear. This has been cussed and discussed
in depth ever since the E20 came out - surprised it is news to you.

Don't for get you can shoot another image the moment the first file
clears the buffer, you don't have to wait for the buffer to clear
completely.

Ed Oliver
Click to expand...
Have been away for some time so missed all the discussion on the
subject, have to say, that I did'nt use the e20 in that time, when
I used again the slowness of the buffer was most noticeable.

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All Best!
Sunny
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Major caveat!! 8 or 9 ONLY IN THE FIRST MINUTE. After that the maximum per minute is 4 or 5.

Most of the time this is not a problem. The one time this would become a problem is for fashion shooting. Live models strike a pose and expect shots to be taken at least every 5 seconds. They get really bored if you ask them to wait 10 to 20 secs on every shot. The E-xx is not really useable in this situation.

VJS
Jim Attfield said:
It's not exactly machine gunning but not as bad as some make out
and as has been pointed out the minute one shot clears the buffer
you can take another.

Jim
Colin Smith said:
Ed O said:
Colin Smith said:
I have recently purchased an E20 and have noticed the buffer is
quite slow to clear
Click to expand...
Larger file - longer to clear. This has been cussed and discussed
in depth ever since the E20 came out - surprised it is news to you.

Don't for get you can shoot another image the moment the first file
clears the buffer, you don't have to wait for the buffer to clear
completely.

Ed Oliver
Click to expand...
Have been away for some time so missed all the discussion on the
subject, have to say, that I did'nt use the e20 in that time, when
I used again the slowness of the buffer was most noticeable.

--
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Please tell me how to do this, full res = SHQ 8 shots in a minute I would be twitterpaited!
Jim Attfield said:
It's not exactly machine gunning but not as bad as some make out
and as has been pointed out the minute one shot clears the buffer
you can take another.

Jim
Colin Smith said:
Ed O said:
Colin Smith said:
I have recently purchased an E20 and have noticed the buffer is
quite slow to clear
Click to expand...
Larger file - longer to clear. This has been cussed and discussed
in depth ever since the E20 came out - surprised it is news to you.

Don't for get you can shoot another image the moment the first file
clears the buffer, you don't have to wait for the buffer to clear
completely.

Ed Oliver
Click to expand...
Have been away for some time so missed all the discussion on the
subject, have to say, that I did'nt use the e20 in that time, when
I used again the slowness of the buffer was most noticeable.

--
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Oly E-20's? -- Aint no doubt about it!
http://mywebpages.comcast.net/mackey135/njdigitalservices.htm
http://www.pbase.com/mackey
http://www.photosig.com/userphotos.php?id=3459
 
"real" fashion models, I hope I can afford a better system :)


vjsilva said:
Most of the time this is not a problem. The one time this would
become a problem is for fashion shooting. Live models strike a
pose and expect shots to be taken at least every 5 seconds. They
get really bored if you ask them to wait 10 to 20 secs on every
shot. The E-xx is not really useable in this situation.

VJS
Jim Attfield said:
It's not exactly machine gunning but not as bad as some make out
and as has been pointed out the minute one shot clears the buffer
you can take another.

Jim
Colin Smith said:
Ed O said:
Colin Smith said:
I have recently purchased an E20 and have noticed the buffer is
quite slow to clear
Click to expand...
Larger file - longer to clear. This has been cussed and discussed
in depth ever since the E20 came out - surprised it is news to you.

Don't for get you can shoot another image the moment the first file
clears the buffer, you don't have to wait for the buffer to clear
completely.

Ed Oliver
Click to expand...
Have been away for some time so missed all the discussion on the
subject, have to say, that I did'nt use the e20 in that time, when
I used again the slowness of the buffer was most noticeable.

--
Click to expand...
Click to expand...
Click to expand...
--
Oly E-20's? -- Aint no doubt about it!
http://mywebpages.comcast.net/mackey135/njdigitalservices.htm
http://www.pbase.com/mackey
http://www.photosig.com/userphotos.php?id=3459
 
Brian,

Obviously he's talking about starting with the buffer empty. With the buffer empty you can get off about 4 shots immediately and by the end of the first minute you might be able to get another 4. Like I said in my other post this only applies to the first minute. Once you've filled the buffer, you're doing 4 or 5 maximum / minute.

VJS
Brian Mackey said:
Jim Attfield said:
It's not exactly machine gunning but not as bad as some make out
and as has been pointed out the minute one shot clears the buffer
you can take another.

Jim
Colin Smith said:
Ed O said:
Colin Smith said:
I have recently purchased an E20 and have noticed the buffer is
quite slow to clear
Click to expand...
Larger file - longer to clear. This has been cussed and discussed
in depth ever since the E20 came out - surprised it is news to you.

Don't for get you can shoot another image the moment the first file
clears the buffer, you don't have to wait for the buffer to clear
completely.

Ed Oliver
Click to expand...
Have been away for some time so missed all the discussion on the
subject, have to say, that I did'nt use the e20 in that time, when
I used again the slowness of the buffer was most noticeable.

--
Click to expand...
Click to expand...
--
Oly E-20's? -- Aint no doubt about it!
http://mywebpages.comcast.net/mackey135/njdigitalservices.htm
http://www.pbase.com/mackey
http://www.photosig.com/userphotos.php?id=3459
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Theres no difference between the first minute or the second. a minute is a minute. I shoot 4 shots and Im waiting at least 45 seconds or longer for the buffer to write all 4 shots.

I have to use 2 E20's to get 8 shots in one minute :)

regards
vjsilva said:
Obviously he's talking about starting with the buffer empty. With
the buffer empty you can get off about 4 shots immediately and by
the end of the first minute you might be able to get another 4.
Like I said in my other post this only applies to the first minute.
Once you've filled the buffer, you're doing 4 or 5 maximum / minute.

VJS
Brian Mackey said:
Jim Attfield said:
It's not exactly machine gunning but not as bad as some make out
and as has been pointed out the minute one shot clears the buffer
you can take another.

Jim
Colin Smith said:
Ed O said:
Colin Smith said:
I have recently purchased an E20 and have noticed the buffer is
quite slow to clear
Click to expand...
Larger file - longer to clear. This has been cussed and discussed
in depth ever since the E20 came out - surprised it is news to you.

Don't for get you can shoot another image the moment the first file
clears the buffer, you don't have to wait for the buffer to clear
completely.

Ed Oliver
Click to expand...
Have been away for some time so missed all the discussion on the
subject, have to say, that I did'nt use the e20 in that time, when
I used again the slowness of the buffer was most noticeable.

--
Click to expand...
Click to expand...
--
Oly E-20's? -- Aint no doubt about it!
http://mywebpages.comcast.net/mackey135/njdigitalservices.htm
http://www.pbase.com/mackey
http://www.photosig.com/userphotos.php?id=3459
Click to expand...
Click to expand...
--
Oly E-20's? -- Aint no doubt about it!
http://mywebpages.comcast.net/mackey135/njdigitalservices.htm
http://www.pbase.com/mackey
http://www.photosig.com/userphotos.php?id=3459
 
Brian, the minute the first shot clears the buffer you can take another. Only the viewfinder is active at this time but with an SLR this isn't usually a problem.

Jim

BTW VJS is right, once you have the buffer full the rate is down to 1 per 12-15 seconds or so depending on factors such as compression on the actual image, speed of the card (minor factor but is there). Sorry, should have pointed this out probably.
Brian Mackey said:
I have to use 2 E20's to get 8 shots in one minute :)

regards
vjsilva said:
Obviously he's talking about starting with the buffer empty. With
the buffer empty you can get off about 4 shots immediately and by
the end of the first minute you might be able to get another 4.
Like I said in my other post this only applies to the first minute.
Once you've filled the buffer, you're doing 4 or 5 maximum / minute.

VJS
Brian Mackey said:
Jim Attfield said:
It's not exactly machine gunning but not as bad as some make out
and as has been pointed out the minute one shot clears the buffer
you can take another.

Jim
Colin Smith said:
Ed O said:
Colin Smith said:
I have recently purchased an E20 and have noticed the buffer is
quite slow to clear
Click to expand...
Larger file - longer to clear. This has been cussed and discussed
in depth ever since the E20 came out - surprised it is news to you.

Don't for get you can shoot another image the moment the first file
clears the buffer, you don't have to wait for the buffer to clear
completely.

Ed Oliver
Click to expand...
Have been away for some time so missed all the discussion on the
subject, have to say, that I did'nt use the e20 in that time, when
I used again the slowness of the buffer was most noticeable.

--
Click to expand...
Click to expand...
--
Oly E-20's? -- Aint no doubt about it!
http://mywebpages.comcast.net/mackey135/njdigitalservices.htm
http://www.pbase.com/mackey
http://www.photosig.com/userphotos.php?id=3459
Click to expand...
Click to expand...
--
Oly E-20's? -- Aint no doubt about it!
http://mywebpages.comcast.net/mackey135/njdigitalservices.htm
http://www.pbase.com/mackey
http://www.photosig.com/userphotos.php?id=3459
Click to expand...
 
At full res or any res ?
Jim Attfield said:
Jim

BTW VJS is right, once you have the buffer full the rate is down to
1 per 12-15 seconds or so depending on factors such as compression
on the actual image, speed of the card (minor factor but is there).
Sorry, should have pointed this out probably.
Brian Mackey said:
I have to use 2 E20's to get 8 shots in one minute :)

regards
vjsilva said:
Obviously he's talking about starting with the buffer empty. With
the buffer empty you can get off about 4 shots immediately and by
the end of the first minute you might be able to get another 4.
Like I said in my other post this only applies to the first minute.
Once you've filled the buffer, you're doing 4 or 5 maximum / minute.

VJS
Brian Mackey said:
Jim Attfield said:
It's not exactly machine gunning but not as bad as some make out
and as has been pointed out the minute one shot clears the buffer
you can take another.

Jim
Colin Smith said:
Ed O said:
Colin Smith said:
I have recently purchased an E20 and have noticed the buffer is
quite slow to clear
Click to expand...
Larger file - longer to clear. This has been cussed and discussed
in depth ever since the E20 came out - surprised it is news to you.

Don't for get you can shoot another image the moment the first file
clears the buffer, you don't have to wait for the buffer to clear
completely.

Ed Oliver
Click to expand...
Have been away for some time so missed all the discussion on the
subject, have to say, that I did'nt use the e20 in that time, when
I used again the slowness of the buffer was most noticeable.

--
Click to expand...
Click to expand...
--
Oly E-20's? -- Aint no doubt about it!
http://mywebpages.comcast.net/mackey135/njdigitalservices.htm
http://www.pbase.com/mackey
http://www.photosig.com/userphotos.php?id=3459
Click to expand...
Click to expand...
--
Oly E-20's? -- Aint no doubt about it!
http://mywebpages.comcast.net/mackey135/njdigitalservices.htm
http://www.pbase.com/mackey
http://www.photosig.com/userphotos.php?id=3459
Click to expand...
Click to expand...
--
Oly E-20's? -- Aint no doubt about it!
http://mywebpages.comcast.net/mackey135/njdigitalservices.htm
http://www.pbase.com/mackey
http://www.photosig.com/userphotos.php?id=3459
 
Err, Brian how long have you had your E-20?

Here is how to take 8 shots in one minute (assumptions: SHQ = 2560x1920, 1/2.7 and starting with an empty buffer):

1. You can take 4 shots immediately in about 10secs.

2. You should then be able to take another shot when the shot bars go from 4 to 3, continue taking shots until 1 minute is up.

How many shots did you get? You should have around 8.

^^^^ This is the FIRST minute ^^^^^^^^

3. If you continue on taking shots from now on you'll get about 4 shots per minute.

SEE THE DIFFERENCE?

I just saved you one E-20.

VJS
Brian Mackey said:
I have to use 2 E20's to get 8 shots in one minute :)

regards
vjsilva said:
Obviously he's talking about starting with the buffer empty. With
the buffer empty you can get off about 4 shots immediately and by
the end of the first minute you might be able to get another 4.
Like I said in my other post this only applies to the first minute.
Once you've filled the buffer, you're doing 4 or 5 maximum / minute.

VJS
Brian Mackey said:
Jim Attfield said:
It's not exactly machine gunning but not as bad as some make out
and as has been pointed out the minute one shot clears the buffer
you can take another.

Jim
Colin Smith said:
Ed O said:
Colin Smith said:
I have recently purchased an E20 and have noticed the buffer is
quite slow to clear
Click to expand...
Larger file - longer to clear. This has been cussed and discussed
in depth ever since the E20 came out - surprised it is news to you.

Don't for get you can shoot another image the moment the first file
clears the buffer, you don't have to wait for the buffer to clear
completely.

Ed Oliver
Click to expand...
Have been away for some time so missed all the discussion on the
subject, have to say, that I did'nt use the e20 in that time, when
I used again the slowness of the buffer was most noticeable.

--
Click to expand...
Click to expand...
--
Oly E-20's? -- Aint no doubt about it!
http://mywebpages.comcast.net/mackey135/njdigitalservices.htm
http://www.pbase.com/mackey
http://www.photosig.com/userphotos.php?id=3459
Click to expand...
Click to expand...
--
Oly E-20's? -- Aint no doubt about it!
http://mywebpages.comcast.net/mackey135/njdigitalservices.htm
http://www.pbase.com/mackey
http://www.photosig.com/userphotos.php?id=3459
Click to expand...
 
And as your line 2. says you "should" be able to. thats a Very solid "should" is right!

So, are we talking about setting the camera to manual focus, shutter speed matter? daylight, low light? Strobes? and are there any other little items that were left out of the example? Smart media needing to be in the camera, is this with any CF card?

8 shots in a minute can happen as you have described it, if you want to take 8 pictures of the same non moving object, but models move. :)

Ill keep my second E20 thanks :)

regards
vjsilva said:
Here is how to take 8 shots in one minute (assumptions: SHQ =
2560x1920, 1/2.7 and starting with an empty buffer):

1. You can take 4 shots immediately in about 10secs.
2. You should then be able to take another shot when the shot bars
go from 4 to 3, continue taking shots until 1 minute is up.

How many shots did you get? You should have around 8.

^^^^ This is the FIRST minute ^^^^^^^^

3. If you continue on taking shots from now on you'll get about 4
shots per minute.

SEE THE DIFFERENCE?

I just saved you one E-20.

VJS
Brian Mackey said:
I have to use 2 E20's to get 8 shots in one minute :)

regards
vjsilva said:
Obviously he's talking about starting with the buffer empty. With
the buffer empty you can get off about 4 shots immediately and by
the end of the first minute you might be able to get another 4.
Like I said in my other post this only applies to the first minute.
Once you've filled the buffer, you're doing 4 or 5 maximum / minute.

VJS
Brian Mackey said:
Jim Attfield said:
It's not exactly machine gunning but not as bad as some make out
and as has been pointed out the minute one shot clears the buffer
you can take another.

Jim
Colin Smith said:
Ed O said:
Colin Smith said:
I have recently purchased an E20 and have noticed the buffer is
quite slow to clear
Click to expand...
Larger file - longer to clear. This has been cussed and discussed
in depth ever since the E20 came out - surprised it is news to you.

Don't for get you can shoot another image the moment the first file
clears the buffer, you don't have to wait for the buffer to clear
completely.

Ed Oliver
Click to expand...
Have been away for some time so missed all the discussion on the
subject, have to say, that I did'nt use the e20 in that time, when
I used again the slowness of the buffer was most noticeable.

--
Click to expand...
Click to expand...
--
Oly E-20's? -- Aint no doubt about it!
http://mywebpages.comcast.net/mackey135/njdigitalservices.htm
http://www.pbase.com/mackey
http://www.photosig.com/userphotos.php?id=3459
Click to expand...
Click to expand...
--
Oly E-20's? -- Aint no doubt about it!
http://mywebpages.comcast.net/mackey135/njdigitalservices.htm
http://www.pbase.com/mackey
http://www.photosig.com/userphotos.php?id=3459
Click to expand...
Click to expand...
--
Oly E-20's? -- Aint no doubt about it!
http://mywebpages.comcast.net/mackey135/njdigitalservices.htm
http://www.pbase.com/mackey
http://www.photosig.com/userphotos.php?id=3459
 
If you purchase the power pack which contain the B12-LPB The E20 will work faster as this battery is double as B10-LPB. 8400 mAh against 4700 mAh
Colin Smith said:
I have recently purchased an E20 and have noticed the buffer is
quite slow to clear it seem to longer in time than the E10 I have
sold. I am using a 128mb smartmedia and 64mb compactflash, Is this
my imagination or have I missed something in the setup. I find with
a fullbuffer I can wait a full minute for it to clear. Any advise
please.
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Best regards

Erik
 
Erik Sahl said:
If you purchase the power pack which contain the B12-LPB The E20 will work faster as this battery is double as B10-LPB. 8400 mAh against 4700 mAh
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I don't think so - as long as the E10/20 have the minimum voltage to operate any voltage/amps over and above this will have no effect on any operation.

If you mean that the camera can take more picture before you need to recharge - then you are probably right but the larger capacity battery will not increase the speed at which it works.

Ed Oliver
 
Brian,

I would assume that's obvious from my post that I'm talking about fastest possible shooting (I know others got it). I'm not talking about how long it takes YOU to focus, compose, frame, think about what you're going to have for lunch and converse with your models, etc.

If you're going to time a car going from zero to 100kph you don't generally include how long it takes you to get out of the garage and get a fillup at the gas station.

VJS
Brian Mackey said:
And as your line 2. says you "should" be able to. thats a Very
solid "should" is right!

So, are we talking about setting the camera to manual focus,
shutter speed matter? daylight, low light? Strobes? and are there
any other little items that were left out of the example? Smart
media needing to be in the camera, is this with any CF card?

8 shots in a minute can happen as you have described it, if you
want to take 8 pictures of the same non moving object, but models
move. :)

Ill keep my second E20 thanks :)

regards
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dont come back with, well what I meant was. And this isnt about ME VJ, its about YOU making a very vague and open ended statment. Which you are now trying ro justify by saying, well others got it. As far as your car statement is concerned, what does that have to do with this? you didnt mention weather conditons, hardtop, glay, what surface are you driving on? Is there any wind? pay attention to the details of your statments.

What good is 8 frames of the same thing VJ?

You know others got it? I like to know who the OTHERS are that think they can get 8 different quality shots from and E20? Can you pointh them out to me? I didnt think so.

Anyway you enjoy your 8 second E20, your in a class all your own. Ill enjoy mine.

regards
vjsilva said:
I would assume that's obvious from my post that I'm talking about
fastest possible shooting (I know others got it). I'm not talking
about how long it takes YOU to focus, compose, frame, think about
what you're going to have for lunch and converse with your models,
etc.

If you're going to time a car going from zero to 100kph you don't
generally include how long it takes you to get out of the garage
and get a fillup at the gas station.

VJS
Brian Mackey said:
And as your line 2. says you "should" be able to. thats a Very
solid "should" is right!

So, are we talking about setting the camera to manual focus,
shutter speed matter? daylight, low light? Strobes? and are there
any other little items that were left out of the example? Smart
media needing to be in the camera, is this with any CF card?

8 shots in a minute can happen as you have described it, if you
want to take 8 pictures of the same non moving object, but models
move. :)

Ill keep my second E20 thanks :)

regards
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Oly E-20's? -- Aint no doubt about it!
http://mywebpages.comcast.net/mackey135/njdigitalservices.htm
http://www.pbase.com/mackey
http://www.photosig.com/userphotos.php?id=3459
 
Forget it! I didn't come back with "what I meant what". I tried to come back and dumb down the explanation to someone who was being slightly thick.

VJS
Brian Mackey said:
What good is 8 frames of the same thing VJ?

You know others got it? I like to know who the OTHERS are that
think they can get 8 different quality shots from and E20? Can you
pointh them out to me? I didnt think so.

Anyway you enjoy your 8 second E20, your in a class all your own.
Ill enjoy mine.

regards
vjsilva said:
I would assume that's obvious from my post that I'm talking about
fastest possible shooting (I know others got it). I'm not talking
about how long it takes YOU to focus, compose, frame, think about
what you're going to have for lunch and converse with your models,
etc.

If you're going to time a car going from zero to 100kph you don't
generally include how long it takes you to get out of the garage
and get a fillup at the gas station.

VJS
Brian Mackey said:
And as your line 2. says you "should" be able to. thats a Very
solid "should" is right!

So, are we talking about setting the camera to manual focus,
shutter speed matter? daylight, low light? Strobes? and are there
any other little items that were left out of the example? Smart
media needing to be in the camera, is this with any CF card?

8 shots in a minute can happen as you have described it, if you
want to take 8 pictures of the same non moving object, but models
move. :)

Ill keep my second E20 thanks :)

regards
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Click to expand...
--
Oly E-20's? -- Aint no doubt about it!
http://mywebpages.comcast.net/mackey135/njdigitalservices.htm
http://www.pbase.com/mackey
http://www.photosig.com/userphotos.php?id=3459
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