OSX Lion

Lion Server is an add-on that can be purchased after you have Lion. It does not require Snow Leopard Server.
Please explain the statement on Apple's Web site (on the "How to Buy" page just off the main Lion Server page):
Step 2. Get the latest version of Snow Leopard Server. You'll need Snow Leopard Server v10.6.6 or later to purchase Lion and Lion Server from the Mac App Store.

http://www.apple.com/macosx/server/how-to-buy/
 
And what if I have purchase Mac with Lion? I won't own Snow Leopard to install to that new HDD first.
You'll get a restore disc with Lion on it. (Or, if you purchase a MacBook Air, a restore USB key with Lion on it.) Making buying a new Mac the perhaps the only way to get one of those prerecorded discs.
Also what to do if I am still on Leopard or Tiger? Purchase Snow Leopard DVD first, install it, then upgrade to Lion through App Store?
Yes. But you would want to move fast to purchase a Snow Leopard disc (the upgrade from Leopard) or Mac Box Set (the upgrade from Tiger) while those were still available. In the past, Apple has had a practice of discontinuing the boxes of the old OS as soon as a newer OS came out.
 
If I am working in a Lion aware app, then I can work on a file and just quit. There is no "Do you want to save" dialog. The fear of losing anything is just gone.
Hypercard and 4D First (both Classic Mac OS applications) were like that.

Suppose that I made a change to a word processing document that I don't want to keep (like deleting a bunch of text), and I quit, and the "Lion-aware app" saves the new document without asking me if I want to save it. That's a change from the expected behavior, and if the document is not versioned, it means my work is gone.
 
I have no brand loyalties nor do you have a solid understanding about capitalism... go look it up. I don't need latest and greatest I just don't have an eternal expectation of legacy support as do some on here. If you were enough to purchase legacy software for your Leopard Mac and not a Universal alternative eh well who got the snake oil? I understand my Epson printer from 2006 may not work as it does now, but I work in retail and support currently so understand planned obsolescence.

As far as your last sentence this is SSOOO TRUE so why are you all crying about Lion and its latest and greatest not supporting Rosetta? If you NEED rosetta then stick with Leopard and forget Lion. After all you don't need the latest and greatest. Those of us who are more mobile and willing to be mobile in our workflow will do so.
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Core 2 Duo is a 64bit CPU which might explain why Lion doesn't support Core Duo. Just a guess.

"On July 27, 2006, Intel's Core 2 processors were released. By Q2 2007, Intel expected 90% of its laptop CPU production to be converted to the heavily-revised Intel Core 2 processors. The original Intel Core (Yonah) product had an unusually short lifespan as a stepping stone to the 64-bit Intel Core 2."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Core_Duo

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IF you are running Snow Leopard Server then you need Lion and then Lion Server.
You can upgrade a Lion install by purchasing the Server upgrade at any time.
Lion Server is an add-on that can be purchased after you have Lion. It does not require Snow Leopard Server.
Please explain the statement on Apple's Web site (on the "How to Buy" page just off the main Lion Server page):
Step 2. Get the latest version of Snow Leopard Server. You'll need Snow Leopard Server v10.6.6 or later to purchase Lion and Lion Server from the Mac App Store.

http://www.apple.com/macosx/server/how-to-buy/
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Well at least you are honest.
Then you really haven't scratched the surface. There is so much new stuff to make the claims some people here have is ridiculous.
Well, I have only scratched the surface only as I've used Lion DP4 only for a couple of evenings yet ;) However so fat it feels and behaves just like Mac OS X, nowhere near iOS.
BTW, how did you get your v.4 install? Most of us that have it are developers and have some idea of what we are looking at.
Well, it's all over torrent sites...

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Core 2 Duo is a 64bit CPU which might explain why Lion doesn't support Core Duo. Just a guess.
I bet it's a very good guess.

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It is downloaded from the App Store but you can then copy the file to whatever medium you wish to take it from machine to machine. Even over a network.
Apps are stored in the Library/Application Support folder when downloaded and then moved to Applications. We don't know yet if the Lion download will be retained anywhere.
Please people, do a little research before spreading ill-informed information.
I did
 
Will Lion be able to be installed into an early 2007 Core 2 Duo MBP with 32bit EFI or is that too old?

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Will Lion be able to be installed into an early 2007 Core 2 Duo MBP with 32bit EFI or is that too old?
Apple did not say anything about requirements for EFI. The only thing they said is that CPU must be at least Intel Core 2 Duo, which is OK in your case.

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Just watched the Apple video about the new OS. I don't think I'll be rushing to upgrade when it comes out. It looks like they just turned the lap and desk top Apples into iPad and iPhones.
I don't think it's like that at all. The full-screen part that I think is making you think it's like an iPad, is nothing like using an iPad since after all you are simply using the app maximized with the window chrome hidden...

I've been using Lion beta for a week or so now and I think it works just fine. If you don't like the full-screen mode, just don't use it. But everything you are used to is still there, just faster and smoother as they further take advantage of your whole system to improve responsiveness for users.

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... from the slow Apple standard 5400 RPM HDD to a Seagate Momentus XT HDD that runs at 7200 RPM and has 4GB of SSD which the HDD firmware caches to for maximum speed. Your MacBook Pro (2010 with a bunch of fonts to slow things down and three programs to launch. including making a check on the interweb and updating part of one program's display, in my case) boots in under 30 seconds.

And I don't have to put up with a bunch of new features I'll never use! (Well, newer features than the new features I think are a total waste of my time in X.6.7.) :)

Max the RAM at the same time, just for fun! :) :)

Cheers, geoff
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All,

I realize this is an older thread and that some of these questions from folks here have been answered already, but still thought I'd pass this along.

Lion will be available on a thumb drive at some future point, from what I've heard. That solves the problem of purchasing Snow Leopard only to turn around and purchase Lion, if you want to wait long enough for the thumb drive to become available. I don't recall the price for certain, but think the number $60 was tossed around.

Once purchased, you can burn a disc, as mentioned previously, and move it from machine to machine. Or, as also mentioned, you can simply install from the Purchased Apps folder, assuming you can get to it. Otherwise, Apple is allowing this to be installed on multiple Macs with one purchase, which is quite nice.

I upgraded my old, original version of Mac Pro to SL not long ago, in case I want to upgrade to Lion. My iMac already had SL installed. I've not yet purchased Lion and I plan on waiting a while longer. I have some other things that are higher priority at the moment.

Good luck to all!
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All,

I realize this is an older thread and that some of these questions from folks here have been answered already, but still thought I'd pass this along.

Lion will be available on a thumb drive at some future point, from what I've heard. That solves the problem of purchasing Snow Leopard only to turn around and purchase Lion, if you want to wait long enough for the thumb drive to become available. I don't recall the price for certain, but think the number $60 was tossed around.
The thumb drive has been available for some time now. The price is US$69.
http://store.apple.com/us/product/MD256?mco=MjQ1MzkyMDY
Once purchased, you can burn a disc, as mentioned previously, and move it from machine to machine. Or, as also mentioned, you can simply install from the Purchased Apps folder, assuming you can get to it. Otherwise, Apple is allowing this to be installed on multiple Macs with one purchase, which is quite nice.
No reason to burn a disc. Just install directly from the thumb drive. It is actually faster than using a disc. And you can install it on an MacBook Air.
I upgraded my old, original version of Mac Pro to SL not long ago, in case I want to upgrade to Lion. My iMac already had SL installed. I've not yet purchased Lion and I plan on waiting a while longer. I have some other things that are higher priority at the moment.
If you want to upgrade a non Snow Leopard Mac you can download it on one of your Snow Leopard Macs. Just quit the installation when it comes up and copy the install app to the other Mac.
 

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