D7000 back from Nikon

Did some reshuffling of what you wrote:
You have to put things in perspective. There have been sold a shitload of D7000's. And only a very small number of users visit forums like this to begin with. Other thing is that buyers who have an issue have a reason to to post their question/grief and these posts get blown up. It's somehow in people's nature to pay more attention to the negative posts on these forums.
I'm no probability major, but I think that the amount of smoke in this forum suggests that there's a pretty sizeable fire. I can't recall any other camera that had so many specific, identical-sounding complaints about a clear fault - like the D7000 here. Definitely not in recent times... The amount of people coming in saying 'forget it, my D7000 works great, these are just rumors' is also very low vs. what I'd expect.

And that said...
It's simply a very good camera, I'm much more pleased with it then my D80 and the difference in detail, especially in higher ISO is very clear.
Agreed. I moved from a D90, which was great - but the D7000, when it works, is much better.
Just get the D7000 if you need to upgrade, and just buy it online so you have the option the return it should you be that unlucky to have an issue with it. Chances however a much smaller then you'd think..
Just my 2 cents...
Agreed too. Definitely have a path to replace the camera should you get a faulty copy, since IMHO, it's definitely a plausible scenario.
 
I'm no probability major, but I think that the amount of smoke in this forum suggests that there's a pretty sizeable fire. I can't recall any other camera that had so many specific, identical-sounding complaints about a clear fault - like the D7000 here. Definitely not in recent times... The amount of people coming in saying 'forget it, my D7000 works great, these are just rumors' is also very low vs. what I'd expect.

And that said...
Here's an informal survey though I haven't updated with this thread...and it's just informal for entertainment purposes.

Users indicating a Positive D7000 experiance

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Users indicating a Negative D7000 experiance

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I'm not sure whether you see this as a good or bad rating for D7000, but personally, I see it as pretty bad. I'd expect people complaining about problems to be a tiny minority, and not 15% of the posters here.

How would it rate vs. say, the D300s, D90, or D5100? I can barely recall posts of people blaming the body being faulty with these cameras, certainly not anywhere 15% of the posters.
 
Add me to the positive list.

I was thinking that maybe the cameras with problems are from the early samples. Maybe models with the later serial numbers are trouble free?
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I'm not sure whether you see this as a good or bad rating for D7000, but personally, I see it as pretty bad. I'd expect people complaining about problems to be a tiny minority, and not 15% of the posters here.

How would it rate vs. say, the D300s, D90, or D5100? I can barely recall posts of people blaming the body being faulty with these cameras, certainly not anywhere 15% of the posters.
I don't know much about what amount is permissible as faulty in but I kind of think that 15 % is totally unaceptable even in this limited forum . And you can't use the justification of newbies as many of the complainers here are advance amateur if not pro photographers.
 
I'm not sure whether you see this as a good or bad rating for D7000, but personally, I see it as pretty bad. I'd expect people complaining about problems to be a tiny minority, and not 15% of the posters here.

How would it rate vs. say, the D300s, D90, or D5100? I can barely recall posts of people blaming the body being faulty with these cameras, certainly not anywhere 15% of the posters.
I don't know much about what amount is permissible as faulty in but I kind of think that 15 % is totally unaceptable even in this limited forum . And you can't use the justification of newbies as many of the complainers here are advance amateur if not pro photographers.
Unless you know exactly how many D7000 owners there are and the percentage that make up this so-called 15%, there is absolutely no conclusion that can be made on the magnitude of this problem.
 
I have a D3s and bought D7k. The D7k is a beautiful camera. I have three 1.4 lenses and two f/4 lenses and in all cases, the AF of the D7000 is bang on. It helps to have good light, but this is true of all cameras. I tend to set up my cameras the same way with regards to AF though. 1. I always shoot on AF-C.... especially with 1.4 lenses, I want AF micro focusing right up to the point of me pressing the trigger. On AF-S, breathing is enough to put a shot out of focus. 2. In the menu system I program 0 delay in reacquiring focus. (on a scale of 1-5, you can program how quickly the camera refocuses if, for example, something crosses your path of where you are focused on). Again, this is so AF changes instantly. I was chasing my kids around our backyard with the D7K and a 24 f/1.4 and a large majority were keepers, the same I would have expected from any camera.

Here is what I've learned from using a higher resolution camera... When reviewing images on the back of the camera, pressing the zoom button 2, maybe 3 times will show you how sharp/in focus the lens/shot is. Beyond that you're looking at pixels bs overall image.

I don't discount that perhaps the initial batches of D7K's had sone bugs, but it's amazing that a DX camera using a (long end) f/5.6 lens, would show the severity of AF issues. There is pretty generous DOF beyond portrait distance, and any OOF shots attained between 1.4 and 2.8 I've passed off as user error.

My point here is that negative reviews don't always represent the majority of user experiences, just the vocal ones.
The way I see it , there is absolutely no reason why I should spend over 1 grand on a camera that has to be sent to be adjusted or repaired being brand new.

On top of it I'm not garranteed if the camera will come back funtioning adequately, as by what I have read many of the cameras have had to be sent back two or even three times to get the problem fix. This is totally unacceptable .

The fact of the matter is that ( I might be wrong as I don't now exactly how many cameras there are out there that have been sent back) it seems that Nikons QC is slipping. I have D90 . Have had it for 2 1/2 years and it has performed great always . No problem what so ever . Nothing , nada ! . D300 or D300s ? The Same . Now all of a sudden not only the D7000 have had at least by what I have read on this forum a little to many complaints but now complaints are starting to come out on the new D5100 too !

Having said this I do know that those who are happy with their cameras don't write here indicating that they are happy with their purchase . So I don't have a really reliable way of knowing what percentage of cameras are lemons in need of adjustments. My guess is that having seen the numbers of cameras that have been sold at adorama and B&H including amazon to name a few by purchaser reviews , the number of defective cameras are small . But I must again say that it is unacceptable to spend over 1000 dollars on a camera and having to send it back for readjustments . Right now I'm just chilling it out waiting for these complaints to go down or totally dissapear in order to feel safe to buy one. I was starting to feel this way when all of a sudden there have been a resurgence of negative post on the D7000.

PS...as many here already know I live in Puerto Rico. I would have to buy the camera over the internet and not getting a good copy for me means having to spend extra money sending it to Nikon to be fixed or buying it down here at best buy that compared with prices over at the states or over the internet charge outrageous prices .
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"You're guaranteed to miss 100% of the shots you don't take" - Wayne Gretzky
 
but you should give it back. Nikon probably sells 70,000-100,000 of the d7k a month. Because 4 people chime in on a post who have had a bad camera indicates NOTHING, considering how many more users who have a good camera stay silent. I would be totally surprised if the number is anywhere even close to 5%, I am guessing probably half that. Not to mention at LEAST half the posts I see can generally be attributed to user error. nikon made a HUGE mistake IMO adding micro adjustment to a prosumer camera. People come in here, read the focus maybe bad, start messing around with focus adjust, when they really don't even know how to use the camera yet, mess it up totally, then come here and scream how horrible the D7k is.

Or how many people send their cameras away for two weeks to get a sensor cleaned. Seriously? Or shoot the inside of a lens cap at high ISO.

They walk among us.
 
+1. My D7000 works perfectly. I aim at an area, hit focus, it focuses right where I want and is stunningly sharp.

Fantastic camera -- of course with ANY tech there will be a small number of units with problems (unless there's a major issue, as with Nvidia graphics cards a few years back), but as the poster said, usually it's those with problems who post.
I want to buy a D7000 but after reading posting like this I start to wonder if at this point in time is it wise to buy one. Maybe its better to wait for the D400 to come out .
Maybe this is weird advice coming from somebody who had his D7000 corrected, but I think not buying the D7000 because of posts on this forum is the wrong choice.

It's simply a very good camera, I'm much more pleased with it then my D80 and the difference in detail, especially in higher ISO is very clear.

You have to put things in perspective. There have been sold a shitload of D7000's. And only a very small number of users visit forums like this to begin with. Other thing is that buyers who have an issue have a reason to to post their question/grief and these posts get blown up. It's somehow in people's nature to pay more attention to the negative posts on these forums.

Just get the D7000 if you need to upgrade, and just buy it online so you have the option the return it should you be that unlucky to have an issue with it. Chances however a much smaller then you'd think..
Just my 2 cents...
 
Very very well said. BTW Did I mention I love my D7000 Shoots tack sharp right out of the box! Then again, I use it as a camera and not a microscope. To be honest, I look at the photos as they intend to be viewed.

I gotta say, I almost did not buy this camera due to some of the things i read here. I'm glad the " I read it on the internet so it must be true" didn't get me :)
I have a D3s and bought D7k. The D7k is a beautiful camera. I have three 1.4 lenses and two f/4 lenses and in all cases, the AF of the D7000 is bang on. It helps to have good light, but this is true of all cameras. I tend to set up my cameras the same way with regards to AF though. 1. I always shoot on AF-C.... especially with 1.4 lenses, I want AF micro focusing right up to the point of me pressing the trigger. On AF-S, breathing is enough to put a shot out of focus. 2. In the menu system I program 0 delay in reacquiring focus. (on a scale of 1-5, you can program how quickly the camera refocuses if, for example, something crosses your path of where you are focused on). Again, this is so AF changes instantly. I was chasing my kids around our backyard with the D7K and a 24 f/1.4 and a large majority were keepers, the same I would have expected from any camera.

Here is what I've learned from using a higher resolution camera... When reviewing images on the back of the camera, pressing the zoom button 2, maybe 3 times will show you how sharp/in focus the lens/shot is. Beyond that you're looking at pixels bs overall image.

I don't discount that perhaps the initial batches of D7K's had sone bugs, but it's amazing that a DX camera using a (long end) f/5.6 lens, would show the severity of AF issues. There is pretty generous DOF beyond portrait distance, and any OOF shots attained between 1.4 and 2.8 I've passed off as user error.

My point here is that negative reviews don't always represent the majority of user experiences, just the vocal ones.
The way I see it , there is absolutely no reason why I should spend over 1 grand on a camera that has to be sent to be adjusted or repaired being brand new.

On top of it I'm not garranteed if the camera will come back funtioning adequately, as by what I have read many of the cameras have had to be sent back two or even three times to get the problem fix. This is totally unacceptable .

The fact of the matter is that ( I might be wrong as I don't now exactly how many cameras there are out there that have been sent back) it seems that Nikons QC is slipping. I have D90 . Have had it for 2 1/2 years and it has performed great always . No problem what so ever . Nothing , nada ! . D300 or D300s ? The Same . Now all of a sudden not only the D7000 have had at least by what I have read on this forum a little to many complaints but now complaints are starting to come out on the new D5100 too !

Having said this I do know that those who are happy with their cameras don't write here indicating that they are happy with their purchase . So I don't have a really reliable way of knowing what percentage of cameras are lemons in need of adjustments. My guess is that having seen the numbers of cameras that have been sold at adorama and B&H including amazon to name a few by purchaser reviews , the number of defective cameras are small . But I must again say that it is unacceptable to spend over 1000 dollars on a camera and having to send it back for readjustments . Right now I'm just chilling it out waiting for these complaints to go down or totally dissapear in order to feel safe to buy one. I was starting to feel this way when all of a sudden there have been a resurgence of negative post on the D7000.

PS...as many here already know I live in Puerto Rico. I would have to buy the camera over the internet and not getting a good copy for me means having to spend extra money sending it to Nikon to be fixed or buying it down here at best buy that compared with prices over at the states or over the internet charge outrageous prices .
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"You're guaranteed to miss 100% of the shots you don't take" - Wayne Gretzky
 
People come in here, read the focus maybe bad, start messing around with focus adjust, when they really don't even know how to use the camera yet, mess it up totally, then come here and scream how horrible the D7k is.
Sandy, can you point us to at least one case where this was the cause?

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I think it was a VERY good idea to add AF tuning to the camera. Photographers have asked this for years to be able to fine tune that one lens or camera body without having to send it in for repair/maintenance.

No DSLR should be sold without it, even the low cost ones. Plenty of topics around of people who have problem with a lens on their D3000/D5000... Impossible to cure themselves.

D.
but you should give it back. Nikon probably sells 70,000-100,000 of the d7k a month. Because 4 people chime in on a post who have had a bad camera indicates NOTHING, considering how many more users who have a good camera stay silent. I would be totally surprised if the number is anywhere even close to 5%, I am guessing probably half that. Not to mention at LEAST half the posts I see can generally be attributed to user error. nikon made a HUGE mistake IMO adding micro adjustment to a prosumer camera. People come in here, read the focus maybe bad, start messing around with focus adjust, when they really don't even know how to use the camera yet, mess it up totally, then come here and scream how horrible the D7k is.

Or how many people send their cameras away for two weeks to get a sensor cleaned. Seriously? Or shoot the inside of a lens cap at high ISO.

They walk among us.
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The ladies equipment: Panasonic LX5 and GH2 for video
 
+1. My D7000 works perfectly. I aim at an area, hit focus, it focuses right where I want and is stunningly sharp.

Fantastic camera -- of course with ANY tech there will be a small number of units with problems (unless there's a major issue, as with Nvidia graphics cards a few years back), but as the poster said, usually it's those with problems who post.
I rather have the impression that for each D7000 owner reporting a problem there are two others rushing to say they don't have any, which of course is incredibly helpful and reassuring to those having a less than perfect unit which usually ends up coming back adjusted and working properly from Nikon service. Apparently Nikon has determined this quality assurance strategy is more profitable than spending extra time on checking every unit leaving the factory with a whole series of lenses. Apparently with this camera more than with others a perfect body/lens match is crucial.
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D5000 - Nikkor AF-S DX 18-105mm F/3.5-5.6G ED VR - Nikkor AF-S 50mm f/1.4 G - Nikkor AF-S 70-300mm VR - Canon PowerShot S3
 
Hey Pol, can you show me an example of this? Very sarcastic. Nothing wrong with people standing up when posts like this descend into how poor the D7k and nikon quality sucks club.
 
Actually, I could show you more than a few if I was so inclined.
 
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Oh yea, and while we are all sticking up for our products we buy. Someone here posted "Why should I spend 1000.00 and get a camera I have to send in to get adjusted".

My wife and I just treated ourselves to a 40K + 20011 Camaro. Sweet ride. Can you believe I had it back in the dealer for repair because the darn rear window defrost would come on all the time when the car was started. Quick change in the programming and it was fixed. I'm once again happy.

Bottom line, any time human intervention is required for building a product, there will be issues.

At one point in my life I would of been bothered by these pain in the butt problems, but now, it's not worth it folks. Get it fixed and move on.......Stress is a killer my friends :)

Now I'm gonna use my new D7000 to photograph my new Camaro :)
 
I would imagine that support centres would be told to preserve ALL user settings, so as not to frustrate a user - and so would guess the -9 AF fine-tune, had been set by you?

if I'm right, then you should test your lenses (tripod, timer release, ruler) to check where you stand now.

as an aside, surely you realise it's highly improbable that ALL your lenses should have manufacturing margins of error all in the same direction, ie all work their best with the SAME AF fine-tune value? I'd recommend you test each lens separately ( ).

( ) My personal situation: 0 AF micro-adjust for the 35mm f1.8 G, 0 AF micro-adjust for the 85mm f1.4 G, but -10 micro-adjust for the 18-200mm f3.5-5.6
 
People come in here, read the focus maybe bad, start messing around with focus adjust, when they really don't even know how to use the camera yet, mess it up totally, then come here and scream how horrible the D7k is.
Sandy, can you point us to at least one case where this was the cause?

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I might have to step up to the plate even though I never screamed “how horrible the D7k is”. All noise about AF problems did make me start out testing AF and focus before I took some time to properly get to know the camera. The results was quite confusing and I can see how someone new to more complex D/SLR cameras could get wound up, jump to conclusion and claim it broken. I never gave up on the D7000 but I have to admit that it’s one quite unforgiving camera that really requires you as a photographer to take firm control. The combination of capable but complex AF modes and metering modes that really require some time and experience to get used to doesn’t help in this case. Pair it with the superb twekability of the D7000 and there is a high probability that some lose control and panic.

You can read more about my initial experience with my D7000 in this thread.
http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/readflat.asp?forum=1034&message=38235182

Am I a happy camper now? Well I love my D7000 but there is a lot of room for improvement (that goes for me as much as the camera). The ones buying the D7100 will get one amazing body ;)
 
but you should give it back. Nikon probably sells 70,000-100,000 of the d7k a month. Because 4 people chime in on a post who have had a bad camera indicates NOTHING, considering how many more users who have a good camera stay silent. I would be totally surprised if the number is anywhere even close to 5%, I am guessing probably half that. Not to mention at LEAST half the posts I see can generally be attributed to user error. nikon made a HUGE mistake IMO adding micro adjustment to a prosumer camera. People come in here, read the focus maybe bad, start messing around with focus adjust, when they really don't even know how to use the camera yet, mess it up totally, then come here and scream how horrible the D7k is.

Or how many people send their cameras away for two weeks to get a sensor cleaned. Seriously? Or shoot the inside of a lens cap at high ISO.

They walk among us.
The problem is, Sandy, is that some people on this forum treats everyone one of us who has a complaint, whether unbased or accurate, as a loser or a newbie. I mean, you put "for god sakes" in my response from another thread. You didn't actually take the time to understand that I'm not complaining about the problem, but that it took Nikon 3 times to admit that it is something more than sensor cleaning a sensor to fix the problem. It's all about showing some respect.

Yes, there are some people who may not know how to use their camera properly. But if you really want to educate people, insulting them isn't the way to do it. You should defintely defend this camera. It's an awesome camera. I love it and Nikon. I'm so glad to have my D7000 back in my posession. But I do think there are legitimate problems that do occur that people are concerned about and constructive criticsm and open listening are key in forums, too.

That's all I want to say - my hope is that everyone enjoys their D7000 to the fullest and shares their love of photography with the community. :)
 

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