Hog Heaven, a rant

The argument seemed to be that the more it cost, the fewer problems there should be. If so, then a $25,000 car should have fewer flaws than a $1000 camera.

I might note that I got into a little trouble here a few years ago when I compiled a list of faults/complaints about a certain model camera that had been on the market a month or two. Over sixty items were listed, but many still claimed it to be the best consumer digicam on the market. Now, just two years later, we have people making a big fuss about a single defect so insignificant that many owners might have never become aware of it if not for the publicity on this site. How times have changed!

Rodger
 
Two ago I compiled a list of faults/complaints noted on this and several other forums concerning a certain model camera that had been on the market a month or two. Over sixty separate faults were listed, but many on this forum were still happy with it and claimed it to be the best consumer digicam on the market. Now, just two years later, we have people making a big fuss about a single defect so insignificant that many owners might have never become aware of it if not for the publicity on this site. I still have that list if you would like me to e-mail it to you so you can compare it with the 717.

Rodger
 
Rodger,

Wow, I remember that! You really got skewered!
The argument seemed to be that the more it cost, the fewer problems
there should be. If so, then a $25,000 car should have fewer flaws
than a $1000 camera.

I might note that I got into a little trouble here a few years ago
when I compiled a list of faults/complaints about a certain model
camera that had been on the market a month or two. Over sixty
items were listed, but many still claimed it to be the best
consumer digicam on the market. Now, just two years later, we have
people making a big fuss about a single defect so insignificant
that many owners might have never become aware of it if not for the
publicity on this site. How times have changed!

Rodger
 
Hi Rodger.

How significant the defect was/is, is a little fuzzy to me. There were a number of experienced 707 users taking too many OOF pictures. Given the high cost to upgrade for many users (especially those 707 users having their cameras only a few months) on top of (probably) unrealistic expectations, the disappointment is understandable to me.

I know I'm glad I didn't make the upgrade, for now. It would have cost me $400.

Your point is well taken though. I'm sure there were a number of users who would have never found out about the problem.

Regards.
Ken
Two ago I compiled a list of faults/complaints noted on this and
several other forums concerning a certain model camera that had
been on the market a month or two. Over sixty separate faults were
listed, but many on this forum were still happy with it and claimed
it to be the best consumer digicam on the market. Now, just two
years later, we have people making a big fuss about a single defect
so insignificant that many owners might have never become aware of
it if not for the publicity on this site. I still have that list
if you would like me to e-mail it to you so you can compare it with
the 717.

Rodger
 
That is the most retarted math I have ever seen. Wow.. a little backwards?
Rodger Carter wrote:
If you pick up a copy of Consumer Reports
and check the various brands of automobiles, you will find that it
is not uncomon for them to find a dozen or more problems with a new
vehicle (and they cost a lot more than your 717!). The very best
may have only two-three minor faults.
OK. Let's say the average car costs $20K and it has a dozen defects:
$20000/12 defects = $1667/defect.

So far the F7*7 has had at least 5 defects in less than 2 years.
The list prices of a F707 and F717 would be $1,998, so:

$1998/5 = $400/defect.

Looks like the F7*7 has a QC record 4 times as bad as the worst
car. Now if this doesn't make any sense to you, it's because it's
a silly argument.

Chuck
 
There were many faults in the F707 (BFS, LEVBFS to name two), after 12 Months Sony comes up with a slightly upgraded model and its faulty too. That tells me that there is no QC at Sony. I'm not buying some cr*p camera from some backyard manufacturer, its from Sony.

Oh wait, No QC=backyard manufacturer, Sony=No QC. Sony=Backyard Manufacturer.
 
Well, don't keep us in suspense, tell us what camera you did buy that has absoutely no defects of any kind. The millions who visit this site have been searching for such a camera all these years and are breathless awaiting your reply. Incidentally, last month's Consumer Reports had a repair listing of all major digicam manufacturers and found that Sony digicams ranked as the best (needed the fewest repairs).

Rodger
 
I saw so many OOF / bad pictures taken by so called experienced people with thier super hiper 707. So I don't worry about 717 quality. IT IS THE SAME OR BETTER THAN 707!
--- Arra ---
Poland
Sony DSC-F717
http://www.pbase.com/717
 

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