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Current updated rumor at more than one place...Fall 2010

The Nikon D90 replacement will probably be called Nikon D95.

Magnesium body. Previous reports indicated that parts of the body will be aluminium. My guess here is that the body will be magnesium-alloy, just like the D300s.

16MP sensor (expected)

1080 HD video.

6 fps (FYI: Nikon D90 does 4.5fps, the D300s – 7fps). The initial report was for 8fps. Let’s just say it will be somewhere between 6-8fps.

39 AF points.

Price: $1199 for body only.

My only question is that if this pans out and 16 MP is what's decided upon....will we get a camera that offers more light sensitivity...the same... or does the MP race win out over noise and usable ISO?

Personally...it would be nice if one could take the D3S FX sensor...."hack off" a DX sized piece...and get similar ISO's...the MP war is counterproductive I am beginning to think.
 
digitography said:
6 fps (FYI: Nikon D90 does 4.5fps, the D300s – 7fps). The initial report was for 8fps. Let’s just say it will be somewhere between 6-8fps.
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This looks like a word-for-word quote from nikonrumors.

Kind of rude to post their info here, without attribution.
digitography said:
Price: $1199 for body only.
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I paid $12-something for a D300.

$1199 is way out of line.
 
My hunch is that this intel is talking about a D300 replacement rather than a D90. Either that, or the D90 replacement moves to the top of the heap for the DX line.

Ryan-
 
Agree here. I have stated my feelings on this in a couple of other threads about the rumors, but most don't seem to believe that I have any merit to my opinion. I just can't quite see them making the D90 replacement higher up the mp and noise handling ladder, and now saying that it will even have a pro like body which moves it above the D300s. I have been wrong before and will certainly be wrong again, but this still just doesn't make marketing sense.
 
the rumor over there also states the same iso capabilities as that of the d700-hard to believe,but if true im in- i need that for shooting in hockey rinks-would be able to crank it up to about 5000 iso if true!
 
Why can't a a D3s FX sensor that's smaller go into a D95? It Can!

If Nikon can pull that off...with the D95 or the next D300s...it's where my money will be. I think Nikon is none too happy that the mega-pixel wars they declared over... are not over... in fact in the FX world... it's just heating up!!

A new D3X can handle 40 MP and a D3S someday 30MP and the D700 24MP. All realistic from what's evolving.

Why?

It is what sells cameras...it is what sold computers....it is what sells cars...the consumers wants MP's/more memory/faster computers and more horsepower in Mustang GT's even though we have high oil prices.

Logic? Never!

Henry Ford said: "If you asked what customer's wanted..they would have told me faster horses".

Sometimes..a company just has to take risks in that it knows something the potential customer does not. The D3S is a case in point.

Right now the D90 is a Mustang GT and the customer wants more Horsepower...increased MP's...1080...maybe an f-stop or two and they will get it.

I still think the next D300s will be the one to wait for.
 
A DX sized D3S sensor would only have about 6 MP, and the general public WILL NOT buy a 6MP camera because 99% of the public is brainwashed with the belief that more MP is always better and compared to Canon's billion megapixels, Nikons' mere 6MP will look like a toy.

Nikon's marketing dept will not take that kind of a risk, period.

I mean, 90% of the people buying D90s don't event know how to use a DLSR, let alone understand the concept of low MP/high ISO relationship. All they want is more MP and more MP.
 
Everyone queue up for your lobotomy, it's time to be dazzled by the bright lights and all the double-talk about megapixels.

There has always been some real chance that there will actually be an announcement of a D90 replacement this time, but there's an equal chance that all the guesses are as vain, and impotent, as they've always been. The reality is that no one knows what's going to happen.

Similarly, the ever increasing level of fantasy that seems to be incorporated into these myths has really exceeded entertaining to the point of just being kind of sad. Is there something wrong with being gobsmacked if Nikon actually defies all logic and produces this body that doesn't seem to make sense now? My answer is "no". However there is something seriously wrong with:
  • Shaking boxes
  • Snooping in closets
  • Peeling back wrapping paper to peak underneath
Just leave all the goodies under the tree, you'll get to open them soon enough. Half the joy of Christmas morning was the anticipation. (Apologies to all those who don't celebrate that holiday, either religiously or secularly, my analogy is based on my childhood experiences and the contrast between this orgy of myth and rumor and some honest, realistic speculation about what may, or may not happen.)

Lastly, even if they do produce this hypothetical beast, they're absolutely nuts if they think anyone is going to shell out that kind of money for a rev up. Sure they might capture some of the market that can't quite make a D700, but they're cutting themselves out of the bulk of the market. Everyone does remember that we're in a recessing economy, right?

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http://www.flickr.com/photos/florida_dan/
 
SUPERHOKIE said:
I mean, 90% of the people buying D90s don't event know how to use a DLSR, let alone understand the concept of low MP/high ISO relationship. All they want is more MP and more MP.
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According to the DPR review of the Canon T2i, even with a smaller sensor packed with 18MP, the T2i has better high ISO noise performance than the 12MP DX sensor.

Compared to the T2i (and the others in the group), DPR says "The Nikon D5000 is the weakest of the bunch in terms of visible noise, with chroma smudging visible at ISO 3200".
http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/canoneos550d/page28.asp

It would seem there is more to good high ISO performance than just the number of MP.

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Patco
A photograph is more than a bunch of pixels
 
Yet on IR the D5000 image looks cleaner at ISO6400, to my eyes at least. The reason the coin has more detail on DPR could be because Canon is applying less NR?

T2i



D5000



I've learnt to take these reviews with a pinch of salt. You need to look at the images yourself and draw your own conclusions. Review sites show what they want you to see.
Patco said:
SUPERHOKIE said:
I mean, 90% of the people buying D90s don't event know how to use a DLSR, let alone understand the concept of low MP/high ISO relationship. All they want is more MP and more MP.
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According to the DPR review of the Canon T2i, even with a smaller sensor packed with 18MP, the T2i has better high ISO noise performance than the 12MP DX sensor.

Compared to the T2i (and the others in the group), DPR says "The Nikon D5000 is the weakest of the bunch in terms of visible noise, with chroma smudging visible at ISO 3200".
http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/canoneos550d/page28.asp

It would seem there is more to good high ISO performance than just the number of MP.

--
Patco
A photograph is more than a bunch of pixels
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dante_d said:
Everyone queue up for your lobotomy, it's time to be dazzled by the bright lights and all the double-talk about megapixels.

There has always been some real chance that there will actually be an announcement of a D90 replacement this time, but there's an equal chance that all the guesses are as vain, and impotent, as they've always been. The reality is that no one knows what's going to happen.

Similarly, the ever increasing level of fantasy that seems to be incorporated into these myths has really exceeded entertaining to the point of just being kind of sad. Is there something wrong with being gobsmacked if Nikon actually defies all logic and produces this body that doesn't seem to make sense now? My answer is "no". However there is something seriously wrong with:
  • Shaking boxes
  • Snooping in closets
  • Peeling back wrapping paper to peak underneath
Just leave all the goodies under the tree, you'll get to open them soon enough. Half the joy of Christmas morning was the anticipation. (Apologies to all those who don't celebrate that holiday, either religiously or secularly, my analogy is based on my childhood experiences and the contrast between this orgy of myth and rumor and some honest, realistic speculation about what may, or may not happen.)

Lastly, even if they do produce this hypothetical beast, they're absolutely nuts if they think anyone is going to shell out that kind of money for a rev up. Sure they might capture some of the market that can't quite make a D700, but they're cutting themselves out of the bulk of the market. Everyone does remember that we're in a recessing economy, right?

--
http://www.flickr.com/photos/florida_dan/
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It comes down to this:

"If you asked people what they wanted..they would have told you faster horses."
Henry Ford

Will Nikon take the route and listen to what people want and give them faster horses/more MP's/1080 video/fluff....or can they bring the DX format near as close as possible to the FX format in a more compact size....?

I will be personally disappointed if Nikon becomes a follower and not a leader and innovator.
 
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