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I keep a set of Energizer E2 Lithium AA cells with my SD10 at all times.

Rechargeable lithium ion batteries are higher voltage and therefore must have internal circuitry to match the voltage of a CRV3 non-rechargeable. This circuit also protects the battery and will shut down the battery if installed in an SD10 whose internal capacitor has drained. The batteries must then be "reactivated" by putting them back in the charger momentarily. The camera capacitor must first be charged with the AA batteries. I keep the AA's in the SD10 while I'm charging the crv-3R's.

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I would much prefer CR-V3s. My expectations on Eneloop battery was higher, yes, they don't discharge themselfes which is great, but for the SD10 the voltage is too low. You need the battery grip to get more than 15pics from eneloop. But that is my experience with my cam...

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birket said:
Hi, and thanks for the link.

Is it AA Eneloops that I should be looking at? I don't suppose they do a CR-V3 variant?
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Paul CampbellCastle said:
I've been happy with these.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=150370535563

Couldn't tell you exactly how many shots they are good for but they haven't let me down yet.
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Hi Paul - thanks for the link. Yes, I've ordered a couple of these as well. I'll see what happens when they come through.

There's me thinking the DP1 had problems...!
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http://www.batterylogic.co.uk/uniross-cr-v3-battery-rb104593.asp

I have 2 sets of these with the Uniross charger, work fine for me.Energiser Ultimate Lithium AAs are a good if expensive back up (try 7dayshop for these), can be used in flashgun too.

Have fun with the SD10, it's still a good camera despite the battery problems, in fact it gives more consistant results then my SD14, shame about the shutter noise though, sounds like a catflap on steroids.
Shaun
 
The way to deal with this is really quite simple. Buy a set of rechargeables, which you already have, or maybe buy a better set, and a set of regular CV3s. Use the rechargeables to run the camera, and when it runs out, or while you are charging the camera, use the regular batteries. AAs don't work well, because they don't last.

Meanwhile a separate problem exists, as you have discovered: the CRVs will not power up the camera after it has run out and then waited and sat empty during the recharging period. The trick is to stick the regular batteries in the camera before loading the charged batteries, charge up the capacitor, and then quickly replace them with the charged up batteries.

In the end it amounts to nothing more than having a set of regular batteries with you, if you are going to be out for a while.

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birket said:
Topi - I hope you are right.

I've just ordered some of these
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B002JUGM1A/ref=oss_product

I hope they will be OK. I just want to get out and take some pictures!
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What you need is high capacity. As I recall the original Sigma CRV-3 batteries only had a capacity of around 1100mAh(?)...CRV-3's with considerably higher capacity than that are available. You just have to shop about.

Ebays a good place to look and you should expect to pay between £3-£5 for each battery.

However, you can get a 3 pack of 1500mAh CRV-3's on ebay for around £10 including the postage. Buy 2 sets and you'll have 6 high capacity batteries probably for less than £20 (with combined postage)...That should keep you going for a while.

Having more than 2 chargers is a good idea too as they can take several hours to charge so its a lot more convenient if you can charge as least four batteries at the same time.
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Forget Duracells, alkaline batteries have too high an internal resistance to feed the Sigma cameras. You need at least NiMH rechargeables, but as everyone else has said rechargeable CRV3s are the best bet.

Having said that though not all CRV3 rechargeables are the same and some can't take the SD!0s switch-on surge without tripping their internal safety trip, so be careful of the cheaper ones.

One littie tip, keep your Duracells and put them in the camera whilst your CRV3s are being recharged. That way the camera will not forget it's memory and reset the frame numbering, time and date.

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birket said:
Topi - I hope you are right.

I've just ordered some of these
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B002JUGM1A/ref=oss_product

I hope they will be OK. I just want to get out and take some pictures!
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I have this verry charger and it is exellent ..BUT it will only charge batterys that have the third contact for charging so you have to be carefull when u but the batterys that they allso have the third contact i have bought some on e-bay for less than £5 each
 
birket said:
Ooops! Looks like I did only order the chargers! Good grief:- why didn't I read it instead of just looking at the pictures!!!

I will do a bit more research. I really don't fancy using disposable batteries all the time, so I need to find a good set of rechargeables plus a good charger in the UK.

If somebody could give me a direct link to something that works in the SD10, it'd be much appreciated. In the meantime, I will follow some of your suggestions in this thread and have a hunt around. In terms of voltages etc, my knowledge is thin and this kind of data isn't often listed on websites.
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Have a look at these on e-bay they have the third contact which the 7dayshop charger needs (i use that same charger and it works great) u might be aswell to get in touch with the seller and make sure they really do have the third contact (they told me that they have )
i have been through the battery problem with my SD10 too
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DickyUK said:
birket said:
Topi - I hope you are right.

I've just ordered some of these
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B002JUGM1A/ref=oss_product

I hope they will be OK. I just want to get out and take some pictures!
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I have this verry charger and it is exellent ..BUT it will only charge batterys that > have the third contact for charging so you have to be carefull when u buy the

batterys that they allso have the third contact i have bought some on e-bay for > less than £5 each
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Actually you dont...I made two simple contact adapters so I could charge three contact batteries in my two 2-contact chargers and visa versa...Tin foil and cardboard are suitable materials to make contact adapters from. I used thin rubber from inner-tube repair patches and tin foil.

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You cannot run a SD10 off Alkalines and Ni-MH are not any better.

Stick to CRV-3's - there are many around, but some are so much better than the others.

I have a battery grip on my SD10 and use 4 of these at a time. I really sometimes forget that the camera has batteries - they just last and last.

I bought 8 of these:

http://cgi.ebay.com/CR-V3-RCRV3-Li-Ion-Battery-for-Nikon-CoolPix-2200-3200_W0QQitemZ360158594004QQcmdZViewItemQQptZBatteries_Chargers?hash=item53db2003d4

Absolute no-name brand but I can tell you I've had them for 4 years+ now and they just keep on going and going.
birket said:
Hi all. I've posted quite a few threads recently about by journey into getting an SD10 and all the associated lens choices.

I've had the SD10 with the 50mm f1.4 for a couple of days now, and managed to shoot of a few simple test shots, just to get a feel for the camera.

The SD10 was bought second hand of e-bay and the seller seems quite genuine. The camera came with the 2 original CR-V3 batteries and charger. They had a bit of power left in them, so I shot a few shots. When they ran out (after about 20 or 30 shots), I installed some brand new Duracell Plus AA batteries in there.

I've taken around 10-15 shots, but then the battery warning indicator came on and I couldn't take any more! I took out the batteries and put them back in again after a few seconds, turnded the camera back on and now it tells me I am back up to full power! I took another 3 or 4 shots and then the camera told me the batteries had run out again!

Taking them out for a few seconds and putting them in again did the same thing - it allowed me to take 3 or 4 shots before apparently draining them!

I'm starting to get worried now as I've just bought this new lens to go with the camera! I tried swapping the Duracell AAs for four rechargeable (decent quality) NiMh batteries (2100mAH), and I get the same thing.

Is my camera broken???? :-(
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Paul CampbellCastle said:
I've been happy with these.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=150370535563

Couldn't tell you exactly how many shots they are good for but they haven't let me down yet.
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Paul: I've just got a couple of these batteries and they seem to be working well. I didn't even charge them when I received them. I just stuck 'em straight in the camera and they worked.

I'm wondering what charger you are using for them? I have one I bought from Maplin, but the battery that came with it is only rated at 1350mAh. These new batteries are 1800mAh. Will the Maplin charger fully charge them to capacity do you know, or will I need a more powerful (?) charger?

(I did put the eBay purchased batteries in the Maplin charger the other day, even though they still have plenty of life left in them, but the charger's green light just came on, indicating that they are fully charged. That can't be the case as I have taken a good 100 or so shots with the batteries so far.)

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Good question.When I bought my SD10 it came with 2 genuine Sigma chargers and I use those. I never gave a moment's thought to whether the batteries are in fact getting a full charge. I'll check tonight what the Sigma chargers are rated to.

Mind you, I've not been unhappy with the performance of the batteries.
 
Me again!

Those 1800mAh CRV3 batteries I got from Ebay were great. They lasted ages. However, last weekend, my SD10 finally told me they were about to run out.

I stuck them in my Maplin charger, but the green 'charged' light just comes on! I tried them in the original Sigma charger, and no light comes on at all.

Any idea which charger will actually charge these batteries????
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I suggest to open a new thread for this question...
 
It seems the problem is related to the contact positions. My 1800mAh batteries have two contacts spaced evenly (like 2 x AA batteries side-by-side), but the charger has its two pins set at one side and centrally.

At the moment, I have some tinfoil in there and a knife jammed in to force the battery to make contact.

It seems to be charging!
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there are two types of CR-3v batterys and two types of charger the batterys with 3 contacts (two big and one small centrall) seem to be the ones which work best for me (i use the 7dayshop charger which is allso sold with different names)..

i also have some baterys with the standard two contacts and a charger of E-bay (cheapish) i woud look on e-bay and get some of the batterys with 3 contacts as i find they work better with my SD10 check back in this thread as i posted some details of e-bay selers with the 3 contact batterys...(allways send them an inquiry as to wether the battery's they are selling HAVE the three contacts (one company sent me 2 batterys with one of each type :( )
 
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