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would we be prompted for quicktime installation or we should install it before hand ? wny do we need to install ? to play back or viewing the clip in sony vegas ?
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HD video: How important is it to you in a DSLR?
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RLH1861
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I have never had an interest in video. never owned a video camera --- well okay once someone gave me one -- but I never used it.
I amnot saying it is not a great medium. But it is totally a different medum. I simply have no interest so video in my DSLR of the future (just bought a 40D) is of no value to me. Maybe someday they will have sketchpads in a DSLR for the true artists among us. I won't want that feature either
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I amnot saying it is not a great medium. But it is totally a different medum. I simply have no interest so video in my DSLR of the future (just bought a 40D) is of no value to me. Maybe someday they will have sketchpads in a DSLR for the true artists among us. I won't want that feature either
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Lucky you, there's the M9 from Leica, you don't have to pay for extraneous features (no video, no AF, no live view, no scene modes).
Oh wait... It's $7000.
(There's a lesson about economics, marketing and cost analysis somewhere in there)
Brunobl
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While being a real gem, the M9, not being an SLR, is not related to my remarks.
Remember? You quoted me saying, "my own next DSLR".
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Yes, but it is a "no frills" camera, I picked it as an example to point out a flaw in the "I don't want to pay for features I don't use" line of thinking. The number of features and retail price have no positive correlation, in fact it's often the cheapest P&S cameras that have the most frivolous features.While being a real gem, the M9, not being an SLR, is not related to my remarks.
Remember? You quoted me saying, "my own next DSLR".
I mean, don't worry, your DSLR would not be any cheaper if it had fewer software based features. Quite the opposite (a manual only DSLR, for example, would be a niche product and therefore expensive, while video expands the customer base and therefore increases the economies of scale and competition, and makes the products cheaper).
Brunobl
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That's kind of obvious. Give me more credit than assume I'd think a camera with custom-selected features would cost less.
I fully appreciate the effects of scale as I explained in my first reply to this thread. But for a given constant number of cameras produced, extra features mean extra cost.
The case in point being video, this is even more so, as the options are either pay for specific solutions for video-only issues or accept dumbed-down video features. In this very thread you already see people craving for better audio control/features. This will come at a cost of course, even for those who shoot exclusively still images. This was my point.
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Fair enough, though I don't think control features for enhancing the video function will lead to higher prices. DSLR's have continued to gain functionality and features, as well as quality, while prices have continued to slide downward. Market dynamics make a more significant difference than adding a few buttons and a few lines of firmware code.That's kind of obvious. Give me more credit than assume I'd think a camera with custom-selected features would cost less.
I fully appreciate the effects of scale as I explained in my first reply to this thread. But for a given constant number of cameras produced, extra features mean extra cost.
The case in point being video, this is even more so, as the options are either pay for specific solutions for video-only issues or accept dumbed-down video features. In this very thread you already see people craving for better audio control/features. This will come at a cost of course, even for those who shoot exclusively still images. This was my point.
To me, its a make or break factor of whether i stick with my 20D or upgrade...
I do a lot of High Def 60fps filming as i practice the discipline of Parkour, however without spending hundreds the only camera i could afford that records 60fps is a Kodak ZI6, which has extremely high noise levels due to its size...
If i could have a camera with a much larger sensor, which i can put decent glass in front off, that reduces the amount of equipment i have to carry, and of course is a much better photographic tool, i cant wait to get my hands on one!
I do a lot of High Def 60fps filming as i practice the discipline of Parkour, however without spending hundreds the only camera i could afford that records 60fps is a Kodak ZI6, which has extremely high noise levels due to its size...
If i could have a camera with a much larger sensor, which i can put decent glass in front off, that reduces the amount of equipment i have to carry, and of course is a much better photographic tool, i cant wait to get my hands on one!
caterpillar
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I did not install Quicktime and Vegas told me I needed one. I think it opened my browser to the apple's site so I can download it. In past versions, I had Quicktime already installed and Vegas no longer promted me.
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David Williamson
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Nice to have, but wouldn't use it very much.
Michael Todd
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like Chase Jarvis does. If I used the 7D for that, I couldn't be using it during the shoot.
I think my little flip video might be better for web videos in this situation--cheap and not a waste of resolution.
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I think my little flip video might be better for web videos in this situation--cheap and not a waste of resolution.
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Michael Todd
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I think there's a correlation here. It's a feature which probably adds to the cost of our cameras, which some people use and others don't.
I personally have a 40D and a 50D and have never used it. I turned it on one time, said "neat" and never tried it again. It's just not what I need in a camera.
I also use Manual mode 99.5% of the time. If I could get a 7D with no video, no live view, no direct print, no program mode, no dummy settings, and they knocked $400 off the price, I'd love it!
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I personally have a 40D and a 50D and have never used it. I turned it on one time, said "neat" and never tried it again. It's just not what I need in a camera.
I also use Manual mode 99.5% of the time. If I could get a 7D with no video, no live view, no direct print, no program mode, no dummy settings, and they knocked $400 off the price, I'd love it!
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csnyder103
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When I pre-ordered the 7D I was primarily getting it for the new auto focus and speed for wildlife...But, after seeing some of the examples of what this camera can do in the right hands and with the right accessories I am extremely intrigued by the video capabilities.
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Eug
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I have a 20D, and I really missed having LiveView and an articulated screen for the difficult shots after moving up from my G2. (eg. Taking shots from within a crowd or over a wall.)
The 7D doesn't have an articulated screen, but it does have LiveView, which is nice. Plus, that 920000 screen is huge in comparison to the tiny screen on the 20D.
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The 7D doesn't have an articulated screen, but it does have LiveView, which is nice. Plus, that 920000 screen is huge in comparison to the tiny screen on the 20D.
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rhlpetrus
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Seeing what people have being doing with it, I'd like to use it in place of the Sony camcorder I have now. The focus control is what attracts me, besides setting exposure manually, you can really use that creatively.
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mfurman
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I consider video a waste of time. I do not even watch TV, avoid video on the Internet and never owned a camcorder. I am not a video guy. My computers would be easily capable of editing and displaying video.
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Michael Todd
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Yeah, the screen on the 40D and 50D kill the screen on the 20D. When I show people the LCD on my 20D, I have to apologize for how small it is.
The flip-out-and-twist LCDs like we used to see on my 5700 and G6 are rare these days even on digicams, aren't they?
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The flip-out-and-twist LCDs like we used to see on my 5700 and G6 are rare these days even on digicams, aren't they?
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Brunobl
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Makes sense, but don't forget that solutions involved might not be just a matter of buttons & software. Sensor temperature issues, or whatnot, might dictate specific hardware solutions. Ultimately, I do agree that this is the direction the industry is taking anyways, so all this is kind of moot.Fair enough, though I don't think control features for enhancing the video function will lead to higher prices. DSLR's have continued to gain functionality and features, as well as quality, while prices have continued to slide downward. Market dynamics make a more significant difference than adding a few buttons and a few lines of firmware code.That's kind of obvious. Give me more credit than assume I'd think a camera with custom-selected features would cost less.
I fully appreciate the effects of scale as I explained in my first reply to this thread. But for a given constant number of cameras produced, extra features mean extra cost.
The case in point being video, this is even more so, as the options are either pay for specific solutions for video-only issues or accept dumbed-down video features. In this very thread you already see people craving for better audio control/features. This will come at a cost of course, even for those who shoot exclusively still images. This was my point.
I'm only a bystander for as long as my current camera works - so far, so good. At some point in the future, when I finally have to replace my DSLR, I might find myself not using more than the green box & print button!
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Eug
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Somebody at IBC has posted these:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/40809477@N00/sets/72157622227264431/show/
It would seem that Canon is heavily pushing this camera's HD video features.
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http://www.flickr.com/photos/40809477@N00/sets/72157622227264431/show/
It would seem that Canon is heavily pushing this camera's HD video features.
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And what happened to the dinosaurs...they became extinct ;-)
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