Superslim laptop or Mindstor?

Sean,

$$?? And from where?
Little amenities like??:
NIC, WiFi
How much RAM?
Size of HDD?

How many CF do you have?
How do you plan to transport your laptop?

Other details??

Inquiring minds want to know!..and I'm still in the same dilema mindstor's firewre vs small laptop and cross-over CAT5 cable to the desktop.

THANKS!

--Moe Onesandzeroes
I'm going to Australia in october for three weeks of photography,
most of it on scuba, so I'm going to shoot a lot of photos. I
needed something to back up my shots between dives -- this is even
more vital if you're diving, because there is always that
(hopefully minute) chance you'll flood your camera and become a
civilian ;-p for the rest of the trip.

I decided to go ahead and get the laptop. You save a few bucks with
a handheld device, but you lose way too much flexibility. I
actually bought an Archos Multimedia, but it was unworkably slow
with 6 megapixel images and didn't work with my microdrive at all,
so I returned it. Granted this particular device is trying to be an
all-in-one media device and it's very new, so there are bound to be
bugs -- if you got an images-only device it might work better. Yet
I had this bad feeling that I couldn't quite trust a wee handheld
device with no facility for customizing the software.

I ended up with a Fujitsu lifebook P2110, which is pretty cool. 3.4
lbs, small profile, 1280x768 screen, complete with DVD/CD-RW -- so
I can not only copy my images off, I can burn them onto CD for an
extra backup. I've previously owned ultra small Sony laptops and
they're nice, but the Fujitsu was a much better bargain. This is
actually the heaviest laptop I've ever owned (I've had a series
of Dell luggables through work, and would never buy one myself) but
it's still quite portable. I insist notebook computers be small
enough to slide into my regular carry on bag. YMMV.

--
http://www.seanansorge.com
 
Moe Onesandzeroes wrote:
Hee hee -- good name.
Sean,
$$?? And from where?
Little amenities like??:
NIC, WiFi
How much RAM?
Size of HDD?
See:
http://webshop.fujitsupc.com/fpc/Ecommerce/buildseriesbean.do?series=P2

for full details. I got the 20 gig base model; I already have an 802.11 pc card etc but you can get integrated wifi, and all of them come with 256 megs RAM (can go to 384), firewire, ethernet, modem, etc. The built-in wifi is sexy though if you don't already have a wifi card, or just want to pay for the sexiness. 20 gigs is a bit small perhaps, but I have a monster desktop machine as my main system, this is purely for walkabout.

I ordered mine from PCConnection; a search of the web seemed to indicated pricing controls are in effect, everyone was selling the 20 gig version for $1499. So I used PCC and got it about 12 hours after ordering it -- gods I love that. I live in CA so avoiding sales tax is a good thing.

Compared to the small sony/toshiba laptops it's way cheap and very complete.
How many CF do you have?
I have a 1 gig MD and 512 mb Transcend card. I'm just switching over to CF but I have a small MP3 player I'll use the MD in, and the MD will be backup storage in case something goes wrong with the CF card.

Two weeks of my trip is going to be spent on liveaboard dive boats (that is, a dive cruise) far from land. This matters because I do a dive, snap away for an hour, come up for a break. During that hour or so I need to change batteries and backup images -- the CF has to be big enough to not run dry during the dive, but it gets offloaded regularly so I don't need to bring enough to last all day. Though honestly on a hike topside I rarely take more than 200 shots, while u/w I can blow through more than 100 in a single dive very easily. All you need is one visit from a pod of dolphins or a really cooperative turtle!

I may be doing a lot of this sort of travel in the near future, so it made sense to gear up for it.
How do you plan to transport your laptop?
Not sure just yet. I had planned to take my backpack camera bag as my carry on, but I'm not sure if I get a second carry on if I do that or if the camera bag can hold everything else I need to bring. I may have to do some shopping for a new bag to get everything in there right. But in general I have a smallish carryon bag with an internal zipper pocket that the laptop fits into. It's a nice size.
Other details??
Interesting note on these firewire laptops; they support firewire networking. Haven't tried it with my desktop yet that'd be sweet. My old Sony also supported this.

The only hestitation I had making the buy decision was the transmeta CPU, but so far it seems to work very well, plays DVDs fine, runs fast enough for what I need it for. Timing tests I found online indicate the transmeta runs about like a PIII at the same clockspeed except for floating point, which is a lot slower. Well, I'm not going to use it for 3d rendering or Excel, so I don't care about FP.

Notably it doesn't get super-hot like my PIII Sony laptop used to. Runs very cool indeed, and battery life seems good, but I'll probably get the beefier main battery. The stock battery is very tiny and despite marketing claims runs about 2 hours. I still need to pop a DVD in and see what battery life is like watching a movie.

One thing; do NOT install MS Office 2000 on this if you get it with Win XP. That cause a very wierd problem with coming back from sleep mode -- the screen would not turn back on; some driver got whacked by the Office installer. As I don't really need office on my laptop I opted to just remove it. That's the only software issue I've run into; 3rd party stuff is all very happy. I've installed and run photoshop, debabelizer, roxio, WinDVD, winamp (2.7.2 because I don't like 3), the drivers to talk to my little MP3 player device, and some other stuff I can't recall, no problems.

Hope that helps!

--
http://www.seanansorge.com
 
I'm going to Australia in october for three weeks of photography,
most of it on scuba, so I'm going to shoot a lot of photos. I
needed something to back up my shots between dives -- this is even
more vital if you're diving, because there is always that
(hopefully minute) chance you'll flood your camera and become a
civilian ;-p for the rest of the trip.

I decided to go ahead and get the laptop. You save a few bucks with
a handheld device, but you lose way too much flexibility. I
actually bought an Archos Multimedia, but it was unworkably slow
with 6 megapixel images and didn't work with my microdrive at all,
so I returned it. Granted this particular device is trying to be an
all-in-one media device and it's very new, so there are bound to be
bugs -- if you got an images-only device it might work better. Yet
I had this bad feeling that I couldn't quite trust a wee handheld
device with no facility for customizing the software.

I ended up with a Fujitsu lifebook P2110, which is pretty cool. 3.4
lbs, small profile, 1280x768 screen, complete with DVD/CD-RW -- so
I can not only copy my images off, I can burn them onto CD for an
extra backup. I've previously owned ultra small Sony laptops and
they're nice, but the Fujitsu was a much better bargain. This is
actually the heaviest laptop I've ever owned (I've had a series
of Dell luggables through work, and would never buy one myself) but
it's still quite portable. I insist notebook computers be small
enough to slide into my regular carry on bag. YMMV.

--
http://www.seanansorge.com
 
Sean...Nifty.

I apprecciate your research and your comments.

Transporting the laptop...:

The MindStor has a HDD too, so perhaps both are on ~ = footing. So. How delicate does one need to be with the laptop while moving it from place to place? If it wre in a backpack and you fell and the backpack hit some rock wal...then what? Or if it is in a backpack and gets wedged between some scuba tanks and bounced up against them? And any idea what'd happen to the MindSor in either of those situations? ????? What about the gorilla in the Samsonite TV spots? I.E., would the laptop be safe under what extreme conditions? [MY laptop is an oldie, used 99% for writing, and rarely transported between buildings/houses: 486-25!].

Charging Batts:

The dive boat likely has > > A/C electric power, however, have you considred a Solar Pannel and inverter arrangement? Maybe not needed at all. ?

Will the P2110 work w/o a battery installed, or a 'good' battery? ...off A/C IOW.

WiFi
The option is 802.11b ... b , right? I see it is.

Does this 802.11b allow you to go Internet surfing in office building canyons? Or Starbux? [Seems I saw something in eWeek sometime this year where their Lab did that and found most connects were unsecure....] so..would you be able to just boot up and be online? ?? {Breaker Breaker, Hello IM? }

KBD...

What does the keyboard feel like for rapid touch-typing? Excellent...or...? Are both 'shift' keys BIG?

Sean, your trip sounds like great fun. When do you leave? When will we begin to see pix??

In conclusion, for now...

Let me get this straight: YOU ARE GOING TO JUMP INTO AN OCEAN WITH YOUR CAMERA ? ;)

THANKS! Best regards,

-- Moe Onesandzeroes
Sean,
$$?? And from where?
Little amenities like??:
NIC, WiFi
How much RAM?
Size of HDD?
See:
http://webshop.fujitsupc.com/fpc/Ecommerce/buildseriesbean.do?series=P2

for full details. I got the 20 gig base model; I already have an
802.11 pc card etc but you can get integrated wifi, and all of them
come with 256 megs RAM (can go to 384), firewire, ethernet, modem,
etc. The built-in wifi is sexy though if you don't already have a
wifi card, or just want to pay for the sexiness. 20 gigs is a bit
small perhaps, but I have a monster desktop machine as my main
system, this is purely for walkabout.

I ordered mine from PCConnection; a search of the web seemed to
indicated pricing controls are in effect, everyone was selling the
20 gig version for $1499. So I used PCC and got it about 12 hours
after ordering it -- gods I love that. I live in CA so avoiding
sales tax is a good thing.

Compared to the small sony/toshiba laptops it's way cheap and very
complete.
How many CF do you have?
I have a 1 gig MD and 512 mb Transcend card. I'm just switching
over to CF but I have a small MP3 player I'll use the MD in, and
the MD will be backup storage in case something goes wrong with the
CF card.

Two weeks of my trip is going to be spent on liveaboard dive boats
(that is, a dive cruise) far from land. This matters because I do a
dive, snap away for an hour, come up for a break. During that hour
or so I need to change batteries and backup images -- the CF has to
be big enough to not run dry during the dive, but it gets offloaded
regularly so I don't need to bring enough to last all day. Though
honestly on a hike topside I rarely take more than 200 shots, while
u/w I can blow through more than 100 in a single dive very easily.
All you need is one visit from a pod of dolphins or a really
cooperative turtle!

I may be doing a lot of this sort of travel in the near future, so
it made sense to gear up for it.
How do you plan to transport your laptop?
Not sure just yet. I had planned to take my backpack camera bag as
my carry on, but I'm not sure if I get a second carry on if I do
that or if the camera bag can hold everything else I need to bring.
I may have to do some shopping for a new bag to get everything in
there right. But in general I have a smallish carryon bag with an
internal zipper pocket that the laptop fits into. It's a nice size.
Other details??
Interesting note on these firewire laptops; they support firewire
networking. Haven't tried it with my desktop yet that'd be sweet.
My old Sony also supported this.

The only hestitation I had making the buy decision was the
transmeta CPU, but so far it seems to work very well, plays DVDs
fine, runs fast enough for what I need it for. Timing tests I found
online indicate the transmeta runs about like a PIII at the same
clockspeed except for floating point, which is a lot slower.
Well, I'm not going to use it for 3d rendering or Excel, so I don't
care about FP.
. . .
Notably it doesn't get super-hot like my PIII Sony laptop used to.
Runs very cool indeed, and battery life seems good, but I'll
probably get the beefier main battery. The stock battery is very
tiny and despite marketing claims runs about 2 hours. I still need
to pop a DVD in and see what battery life is like watching a movie.
 
Flying to Oz. Sean, you might want to invest in a Comfortable ANR headphone set. The Sony Active Noise Reduction headset is ok, however, the BOZE is a delight. You will be amazed at the lack of fatigue your body will experience during and after the flights.

FWIW, I strongly suggest the BOZE as an early birthday present to yourself and enjoy the flight so much more. And you'll be using them for years.

--Moe Onesandzeroes
Sean,
$$?? And from where?
Little amenities like??:
NIC, WiFi
How much RAM?
Size of HDD?
See:
http://webshop.fujitsupc.com/fpc/Ecommerce/buildseriesbean.do?series=P2

for full details. I got the 20 gig base model; I already have an
802.11 pc card etc but you can get integrated wifi, and all of them
come with 256 megs RAM (can go to 384), firewire, ethernet, modem,
etc. The built-in wifi is sexy though if you don't already have a
wifi card, or just want to pay for the sexiness. 20 gigs is a bit
small perhaps, but I have a monster desktop machine as my main
system, this is purely for walkabout.

I ordered mine from PCConnection; a search of the web seemed to
indicated pricing controls are in effect, everyone was selling the
20 gig version for $1499. So I used PCC and got it about 12 hours
after ordering it -- gods I love that. I live in CA so avoiding
sales tax is a good thing.

Compared to the small sony/toshiba laptops it's way cheap and very
complete.
How many CF do you have?
I have a 1 gig MD and 512 mb Transcend card. I'm just switching
over to CF but I have a small MP3 player I'll use the MD in, and
the MD will be backup storage in case something goes wrong with the
CF card.

Two weeks of my trip is going to be spent on liveaboard dive boats
(that is, a dive cruise) far from land. This matters because I do a
dive, snap away for an hour, come up for a break. During that hour
or so I need to change batteries and backup images -- the CF has to
be big enough to not run dry during the dive, but it gets offloaded
regularly so I don't need to bring enough to last all day. Though
honestly on a hike topside I rarely take more than 200 shots, while
u/w I can blow through more than 100 in a single dive very easily.
All you need is one visit from a pod of dolphins or a really
cooperative turtle!

I may be doing a lot of this sort of travel in the near future, so
it made sense to gear up for it.
How do you plan to transport your laptop?
Not sure just yet. I had planned to take my backpack camera bag as
my carry on, but I'm not sure if I get a second carry on if I do
that or if the camera bag can hold everything else I need to bring.
I may have to do some shopping for a new bag to get everything in
there right. But in general I have a smallish carryon bag with an
internal zipper pocket that the laptop fits into. It's a nice size.
Other details??
Interesting note on these firewire laptops; they support firewire
networking. Haven't tried it with my desktop yet that'd be sweet.
My old Sony also supported this.

The only hestitation I had making the buy decision was the
transmeta CPU, but so far it seems to work very well, plays DVDs
fine, runs fast enough for what I need it for. Timing tests I found
online indicate the transmeta runs about like a PIII at the same
clockspeed except for floating point, which is a lot slower.
Well, I'm not going to use it for 3d rendering or Excel, so I don't
care about FP.

Notably it doesn't get super-hot like my PIII Sony laptop used to.
Runs very cool indeed, and battery life seems good, but I'll
probably get the beefier main battery. The stock battery is very
tiny and despite marketing claims runs about 2 hours. I still need
to pop a DVD in and see what battery life is like watching a movie.

One thing; do NOT install MS Office 2000 on this if you get it with
Win XP. That cause a very wierd problem with coming back from sleep
mode -- the screen would not turn back on; some driver got whacked
by the Office installer. As I don't really need office on my laptop
I opted to just remove it. That's the only software issue I've run
into; 3rd party stuff is all very happy. I've installed and run
photoshop, debabelizer, roxio, WinDVD, winamp (2.7.2 because I
don't like 3), the drivers to talk to my little MP3 player device,
and some other stuff I can't recall, no problems.

Hope that helps!

--
http://www.seanansorge.com
 
Okay I've made a decision. I intend on keeping the Mindstor 20GB and I bought a PIII Dell Latitude L400. Yeah there are other better notebooks out there that are fast but I have a Latitude C600 and the drives will work with them and this thing is super slim. Fits perfectly in my LowePro Stealth 650, this is what I carry in it:

D60
19-35
50/1.8
28-70/2.8 L
85/1.8
100/2.8 Macro
100-400 L
550ex flash
CP-E2 Battery Pack
Mindstor 20GB
2-Motorola Talkabouts
Omnibounce
Lumiquest Softbox
RS-80N3
Dell Latitude L400
and misc filters and batteries

That's why I needed a "superslim" laptop!!

--
Sean
http://www.mmsean.com
http://pbase.com/slowrey

Canon D60, Tokina 19-35mm, 50mm, 85/1.8 USM, 28-70/2.8 L, 100/2.8 Macro USM, 100-400L USM IS, ST-E2, 550ex, Bogen Tripod & Monopod, Microdrives, Transcend, Mindstor and Tamrac Bags.
 
So. How delicate does one need to be with the laptop while moving
it from place to place? If it wre in a backpack and you fell and
the backpack hit some rock wal...then what? Or if it is in a
backpack and gets wedged between some scuba tanks and bounced
LOL -- I see you haven't been on a liveaboard dive cruise! You get your own room, the laptop stays in there, or I might take it into the dining room, far away from salt water and bouncing scuba tanks (that's a funny/scary image -- tanks tend to be secured pretty well, as should be everything on a boat as they roll around, but tanks especially 'cause they're holding in 3000 psi or so).

I tend to be pretty careful with my toys -- er, tools, so I've never had the opportunity to see how a laptop handles being sat on, for example -- though I'm sure my mighty backside would crush it like a grape in Napa. I imagine any consumer electronic device should be treated as if it were fragile!
Charging Batts:
The dive boat likely has > > A/C electric power, however, have you
considred a Solar Pannel and inverter arrangement? Maybe not
needed at all. ?
Yep they all have AC; at least one has both 110 and 240 (the native Aus power is 240). The power supply is a modern smart one and will take anything you can find, as long as you can get the plugs adapted right.
Will the P2110 work w/o a battery installed, or a 'good' battery?
...off A/C IOW.
Yes, that works. It'll charge while you work too.
WiFi
The option is 802.11b ... b , right? I see it is.
Does this 802.11b allow you to go Internet surfing in office
building canyons? Or Starbux?
My experience with WiFi in the bay area has been positive; three of the places I've worked in the last three years (internet startups -- sigh) have had wireless WAN setups, and several local coffee shops do as well, and my Lucent card worked in all places.
KBD...
What does the keyboard feel like for rapid touch-typing?
Excellent...or...? Are both 'shift' keys BIG?
Laptop keyboards often leave something to be desired. My big complaints on this one are the function and control keys on the left side should switch positions, and the shift key on the right is too small to be of any use. You get used to it tho.
Sean, your trip sounds like great fun. When do you leave? When
will we begin to see pix??
In about 6 weeks I'm off. If I post any here really depends on what I get! I'm sure I'll post a bunch to my site though.
In conclusion, for now...
Let me get this straight: YOU ARE GOING TO JUMP INTO AN OCEAN
WITH YOUR CAMERA ? ;)
Hee hee. Yes indeedy! Also my 550EX strobe. Snugly encased in aluminum, they'll be safer than I will -- there will be other humans in the water with me, after all, and those are some dangerous creatures.

The big shocker is you can get flood insurance for your camera. Not trivial in terms of cost, but worth it for peace of mind. So far I've never personally flooded gear, but I've seen three housed camcorder floods, and two floods of older film cameras -- Nikonos gear, which is an aquatic (rather than housed) camera which sports zillions of orings. With that many you're bound to have a failure eventually. The housing I got (which I just received yesterday actually) has only one o-ring -- testing that in a swimming pool this weekend. Whee!

---------
http://www.seanansorge.com
 
Have you considered the ImageTank? They are a lot cheaper than the MindStor. Only problem I have is that the interface is only USB and USB 1.1 at that so it might take a while to download. But on the up side you can replace the hard drives, it's a 2.5 inch laptop drive, or you can just buy the case and get a small drive cheap from ebay or somewhere.

Regards
Hi everyone, I've been entertaining the idea of getting rid or
trading my 20GB Mindstor with Firewire and getting a slim laptop
such as a Dell Latitude L400 or something of the sort. You know
under 4 pounds. Anyone have a huge reason why I shouldn't go that
route? I figure either I can sell it outright and buy the lappie,
or I can trade with cash.

I really dont' need a speed demon probably around 700mhz.

--
Sean
http://www.mmsean.com
http://pbase.com/slowrey
Canon D60, Tokina 19-35mm, 50mm, 85/1.8 USM, 28-70/2.8 L, 100/2.8
Macro USM, 100-400L USM IS, ST-E2, 550ex, Bogen Tripod & Monopod,
Microdrives, Transcend, Mindstor and Tamrac Bags.
 
You should seriously look at Archos' new Multimedia Jukebox. I think It is more useful and handier if you're on the go.

http://www.archos.com/us/products/product_jbmm.html

Blurb from their website:

"The ARCHOS Jukebox Multimedia provides a revolutionary, handheld entertainment center, which combines an MP3 music player and recorder, plus built-in microphone, photo album and carousel, still camera and camcorder, plus video player and recorder.

The base unit of the Jukebox Multimedia provides an MP3 player, a photo and video viewing capability, and a 20GB Hard, plus an Expansion Connector that allows additional modules to be attached to the unit.

An Entertainment Center in Your Hand -
Music, Photos, Videos and Hard Drive

It comes with a standard USB 1.1 interface and can also use an optional USB 2.0, FireWire, or a PC Card connection. The 20 GB Hard Drive is able to hold 5000 MP3 songs, 10,000 to 60,000 photos, 20 to 100 hours of videos and can serve as a back up hard drive for personal data.

The Jukebox Recorder Kit allows real-time MP3 recording from any audio source. The Photo Module downloads images from CompactFlash cards or SmartMedia in seconds to the hard drive and can be viewed on the color LCD or on a TV.

The Camera Module turns the unit into a digital camera and Camcorder with a 2X digital zoom to shoot movies in MPEG4 format with an MP3 sound track.

The Video Recorder Module is similar to a VCR recorder. It can record and playback MPEG4 quality videos from and to a TV.

The Jukebox Multimedia provides a total, portable entertainment solution for music, photos, videos and data - all in the palm of your hand."

BTW I don't work for them and don't even sell their product. I just bought one of them since I got sick of carrying my mindstore (6GB) + IPod (5GB) + Mp4 MD videocam and not having all the storage in one place. For the more adventurous there is also already a mod to convert the thing into a 40GB version.

TTYL
Many
Regards
Hi everyone, I've been entertaining the idea of getting rid or
trading my 20GB Mindstor with Firewire and getting a slim laptop
such as a Dell Latitude L400 or something of the sort. You know
under 4 pounds. Anyone have a huge reason why I shouldn't go that
route? I figure either I can sell it outright and buy the lappie,
or I can trade with cash.

I really dont' need a speed demon probably around 700mhz.

--
Sean
http://www.mmsean.com
http://pbase.com/slowrey
Canon D60, Tokina 19-35mm, 50mm, 85/1.8 USM, 28-70/2.8 L, 100/2.8
Macro USM, 100-400L USM IS, ST-E2, 550ex, Bogen Tripod & Monopod,
Microdrives, Transcend, Mindstor and Tamrac Bags.
 

Keyboard shortcuts

Back
Top