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HCR21 said:
I held off on buying more Canon stuff for now after the recent price
increases.
Pentax however is decreasing their DSLR prices.
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Canon hasn't increased the prices for their digital SLR bodies at all. Prices for all digital SLR bodies (unlike lenses) actually decrease over time. I don't see how Pentax is any different from Canon or Nikon or Olympus in this matter. If Pentax prices for lenses decreased, then maybe you would have a point. But they haven't, so you don't.

Perhaps you're being confused by the concept of rebates as well. Canon's rebate period just ended a few weeks ago, which means the prices for some bodies "increased" after the end of the rebates. The same thing will happen with Pentax once their promo period ends.

There's really no point to your post, except to further some kind of gloom and doom agenda with Canon.
 
Looks like you missed the discussions about the increases due to yen exchange rates. Asked the british canon customers in particular.
 
HCR21 said:
Looks like you missed the discussions about the increases due to yen
exchange rates. Asked the british canon customers in particular.
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The link you provided is to a Pentax promo for USA prices. So I compared them with Canon USA promos and prices.

Now you're ignoring Canon USA prices in favor of British Canon prices, and comparing that to Pentax USA prices. Exactly how does that make sense in -ANY- way? I'll tell you how it makes sense. It makes sense from the perspective of someone spreading doom & gloom through misrepresentation of facts.
 
Canon did actually increase its price with 15% to 35% on average. This was on dutch business news RTL-Z. Its the retailer that does NOT wan't to increase its price and is taking the loss due to the economic crisis as they fear this will withheld costumers of buying luxury goods like camera's.

They rather sell against a lower margin then not making the deal at all. It not that a price increase won't happen, but the question is when it will happen.
 
Karma Traveler said:
Canon hasn't increased the prices for their digital SLR bodies at
all. Prices for all digital SLR bodies (unlike lenses) actually
decrease over time.
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You clearly are not on this planet - Canon UK have just increased the price of a 1D Mk3 from £3,000 to £4,430. The price of the 800mm f/5.6 lens has jumped from £10,000 to £14,370.

So what are talking about - this IS doom & gloom!!!

Colin

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US price £7440
So:
1 plane ticket to NY to visit B&H: £800
2 nights at a nice hotel: £500
1 long lens backpack: £100
1 mailing for your empty lens case back home (no duty tax on return): £50

Total: £8890
+
Savings: £5480
= buying that lens in the UK is for idiots
Colin Key said:
You clearly are not on this planet - Canon UK have just increased
the price of a 1D Mk3 from £3,000 to £4,430. The price of the 800mm
f/5.6 lens has jumped from £10,000 to £14,370.

So what are talking about - this IS doom & gloom!!!

Colin

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Split the 1D and 5D into separate forums petition:
http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/1D_5D_Split/
 
Karma Traveler said:
Canon hasn't increased the prices for their digital SLR bodies at
all. Prices for all digital SLR bodies (unlike lenses) actually
decrease over time. I don't see how Pentax is any different from
Canon or Nikon or Olympus in this matter. If Pentax prices for
lenses decreased, then maybe you would have a point. But they
haven't, so you don't.

There's really no point to your post, except to further some kind of
gloom and doom agenda with Canon.
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. . . . . This is the same character who wanted to start a class actiion suit against Canon about a week ago. A foolish endeavor by an apparent troll.

 
One customs tax/duty bill + one customs fine + one triple repair bill due to no warranty = not so quick with your conclusions!
 
trying to avoid the duty tax is not cool.
JClaude said:
1 mailing for your empty lens case back home (no duty tax on return):
£50
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Split the 1D and 5D into separate forums petition:
http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/1D_5D_Split/
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Tim in upstate NY said:
Tim in upstate NY said:
There's really no point to your post, except to further some kind of
gloom and doom agenda with Canon.
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. . . . . This is the same character who wanted to start a class
actiion suit against Canon about a week ago. A foolish endeavor by an
apparent troll.

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Split the 1D and 5D into separate forums petition:
http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/1D_5D_Split/
 
I don't know for sure what the UK is like, but in Australia, if you don't declare expensive camera gear, and other electronic your own (not your little P&S or ipod, but your $20K worth of camera gear, etc), as you leave the country, customs can charge you GST (in our case) on everything you bring back in with you, unless you can produce the receipts to verify you bought the goods in Australia before you left.

As you leave the country you lodge a declaration with customs, which contains the serial numbers, and they check it off as you leave to verify your telling the truth, and they check them back in.

If you don't, you may be OK, and they won't say anything, but if they want to challenge you, it gets very, very difficult to prove you owned the gear before hand. Imagine having to pay tax on something that you already paid it on.
JClaude said:
You pay customs if you want to
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And if you get caught, don't you then pay the duty, plus a fine, plus get a criminal conviction for tax evasion?
JClaude said:
mwillems said:
One customs tax/duty bill + one customs fine + one triple repair bill
due to no warranty = not so quick with your conclusions!
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Split the 1D and 5D into separate forums petition:
http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/1D_5D_Split/
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HCR21 said:
I held off on buying more Canon stuff for now after the recent price
increases.
Pentax however is decreasing their DSLR prices.

http://www.electronista.com/articles/09/02/04/pentax.cuts.and.k2000.kits/
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Nikon, Canon, and most other major vendors are re-aligning their prices with the Yen to whatever currencies they are selling in. Nikon for instance has raised it's prices in the UK, Australia, and more recently in the US. That would be more relavant as a comparison to Canon as both companies have similar economics and market size, and thus, losses incurred because of currency exchange.

also it looks like the majority of the Pentax price drops are temporary prior to PMA to drum up sales - I see one promo ending Feb 22, and another in march - which is really no different than canon's spring and fall rebate schedules.

but what does pentax have to do with canon anyways?
 
Karma Traveler said:
HCR21 said:
Looks like you missed the discussions about the increases due to yen
exchange rates. Asked the british canon customers in particular.
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The link you provided is to a Pentax promo for USA prices. So I
compared them with Canon USA promos and prices.

Now you're ignoring Canon USA prices in favor of British Canon
prices, and comparing that to Pentax USA prices. Exactly how does
that make sense in -ANY- way? I'll tell you how it makes sense. It
makes sense from the perspective of someone spreading doom & gloom
through misrepresentation of facts.
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When someone really, desperately wants to make a point, and prove a point that isn't really supported by currently available facts, they will use anything to justify their belief/claim. In this case, comparing Pentax USA price changes to Canon UK price changes allows him to justify his claim, and therefore sounds reasonable to him.

As such, I doubt you'll get them to admit that it isn't a fair comparison, because that shoots down his original claim which he is trying to defend.

As the Yen changes again the US dollar, the British pound, the Euro, and the Aussie dollar, etc, everyone's prices eventually change, some more than others because the different currencies tend to strengthen and weaken at different rates to and against each other.

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PhotoKhan said:
mwillems said:
+ one triple repair bill
due to no warranty
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Canon lenses warranty is a global one.
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Canon Australia told me lenses had a worldwide warranty, but Canon USA told me lenses have the same restrictive warranty as bodies. Either Canon USA don't know what they are talking about, or Canon USA run a different policy on lens warranty to the rest of the world.
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some canon warranties are "continential" based.

for instance over here US and Canada share the same warranty.
 
65tigershark said:
Canon Australia told me lenses had a worldwide warranty, but Canon
USA told me lenses have the same restrictive warranty as bodies.
Either Canon USA don't know what they are talking about, or Canon USA
run a different policy on lens warranty to the rest of the world.
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Well, that is not what is written in the warranty small print in the lenses I outsourced from the USA (...not for the bodies, though).

I know that global warranty is honored here, because I have already resorted to it but, granted, Canon North America is probably big enough to decide not to honored it the other way around and get away with it.

But the actual whole thing made sense to me the first time I took notice of it, especially when we see the shear amount of pros using Canon lenses at international events.

Let's say a UK photojournalist has a pressing need to get a new EF 300mm f/2.8L IS USM to cover an event in Australia (...I know he can resort to local CPS but it might prove not adequate for a particular situation...)

Why should he be left with a warranty-less 4000$ item once returning from the assignment?

Providing a Global Warranty is a great way to elevate Canon products confidence in any consumer.

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IF pentax are made in Indonesia then they can lower prices. If its made in Japan then the prices will go up. It could also be an inventory clearance as every company is vastly overstocked with the economic downturn.
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