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the player in an extremely backlit scenario? IMHO, this is the weakness of my 5DMKII as I did a shoot with a model extremely backlit by the sun and the lens (both 24-70L and 70-200/2.8 L IS) kept on hunting. I had to resort to shooting with MF.

The 1DMKIII ISO 6400 is indeed 'H'. Like I said judging from your pics the DR of the 5DMKII is better.

cheers,

José
richiedodson said:
Hi Jose' - I didn't know 1DIII had ISO6400? I've never used one but
thought it was H3200 like the old 5D?

You could easily use noise filters on these - I have noise ninja but
wanted to post 'no-noise filtered' shots for you - these have no
noise filter from camera or post at all.

I don't think ISO6400 on the 5DII is the same as ISO1600 on the 5D
for noise - I think there is more noise at that setting on the 5DII
but it is certainly useable. I'd say ISO3200 would be closer on 5DII
to 1600/5D - however I have not tried reducing from 21MP to 12MP to
compare side-by-side... it's just the feeling I get after using 5D
for 3 years.
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http://www.pbase.com/jmb_56/alejandra_1dmkiii
http://www.pbase.com/jmb_56/ashley
 
kruger said:
How come every time canon comes out with a new camera you get all
weird ? When I shot the 1DmkIII it was piece of junk crop camera &
your 5D was the second coming of the hubble.
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You are right, first year most mkIII was junky, that is why I got it year later :)

However I never change what I said to you that time - crop for sports and macro, ff for landscapes. So?

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My shots:
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I love looking at these photos. I guess I love tennis and I love looking at what a 5DII like mine can do in the hands of a pro. Gives me something to shoot for.

Please post some more.
 
hehe - thanks - I'm no pro though - I can take studio shots that are close enough to pro for my clients to be happy with and I am learning photography as much as I can through reading and trying. I'd say anyone who sets the 5DII up with the same settings as I did, points the camera at a tennis player using good lenses and then post-processes a tiny bit will get similar results...
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Hi - I've never shot basketball - but suppose I'd use the 70-200 2.8 IS and the 300 2.8 IS

I know a guy who is a sports photog for one of Melbourne's biggest newspapers and he uses the 300 and 400 2.8 IS I think... but 1DIII not 5DII

5DII might do pretty well indoor at ISO6400
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Hi Jose'

I'd be using thumb focus with AF-ON button and set the shutter button to exposure lock on half-press (exactly as I did for tennis) and then use centre-weighted spot metering. It's the one that looks like this: [ ] ...no dots

...that should average out the scene but weight the metering in the centre (I guess you'd need to focus using centre AF point for it to work best. I might be wrong on this but that's what I'd try first and bring highlights and shadows back in post. I'd guess full spot metering would just blow out the background too much to recover!
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Thanks Richard. However, it is not the metering that is a problem for me but the focusing. For extremely backlit situations it is a royal pain to shoot with manual focusing shooting sports. I just have to avoid lighting conditions like that and use my 1DMKIII in that regard.

Cheers,

José
richiedodson said:
Hi Jose'
I'd be using thumb focus with AF-ON button and set the shutter button
to exposure lock on half-press (exactly as I did for tennis) and then
use centre-weighted spot metering. It's the one that looks like this:
[ ] ...no dots

...that should average out the scene but weight the metering in the
centre (I guess you'd need to focus using centre AF point for it to
work best. I might be wrong on this but that's what I'd try first and
bring highlights and shadows back in post. I'd guess full spot
metering would just blow out the background too much to recover!
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Feeling it from downtown with the well-endowed FiftyDee, the 2Marks and hitting the quadrupLe-doubLe
Recent work:
http://www.pbase.com/jmb_56/mel_5dmkii
http://www.pbase.com/jmb_56/cris_5dmkii
http://www.pbase.com/jmb_56/alejandra_1dmkiii
http://www.pbase.com/jmb_56/ashley
 
Hi Jose'

I haven't experienced focusing with backlit situtaions using the 5DII with tennis. Last year with the 5D original the Australian Open was very hot and sunny and the sun seemed to be ALWAYS on the other side of the player from the photographer's pit - it meant deep shadows on faces and extremely bright backgrounds. For the shots that did focus on the 5D I could bring the shadows back just enough to see a bit of detail - I'd imagine the 5DII shots would be easier with the extra bit depth and resolution but I don't know what the focus would be like initially. This year I was mostly in the big stadiums where the afternoon sun didn't play as big of a role.

Here is a shot where I was lucky to get some reflected light off the signs/fences of the stadium but where the light was behind... almost like someone was standing there with a big reflector... otherwise she would have been in lots of shadow. (5D original)



I did find the 5D original to be very good at quickly metering when subjects went from extreme shadow to extreme light in and out all the time and it exposed the selected AF point very accurately. I hope the 5DII is similar but I'm yet to find out... the 5D original was pretty bad at getting any sports in focus though and after my experience with the tennis I think the 5DII will be excellent...





Rabbobank riding Giant this year :)

Most of my work is studio based and I blow out the backdrop to bright white as much as possible so I'm used to focusing and exposing for the product which is I know a completely different thing to moving subjects especially quickly moving subjects :) the 5D was good - I expect the 5DII to blow it away for detail...



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right now it's 43 degrees celcius here in Melbourne - yesterday 44.9C (113F) so I'm not going out to try focusing on backlit subjects today - would burn my hands :)
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I was talking with a pro at the winter x games this last weekend. I had my 20d with a 70-200/2.8L out while at lunch. He said that he was using the 5DmII and he loved it. He shoots for espn, Si, and others. He said the focusing was awesome on the 5DmII. He asked me if I wished I had something faster?
 
He's a great player - but I couldn't help feeling that Federer has much better touch, better mix of shots, harder to read and a better overall game than Raf. I think that maybe Federer's mind was on other things like setting records rather than just the match by itself. He seemed to be so overwhelmed by the presence of the 'Legends' at the end. I'd think Federer was in perfect physical condition so I doubt fitness comes into it - but yes Raf must be pretty awesome just to beat such a great player as Federer... great match.
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Richie,

I'm a huge Federer fan. I agree with your comments about his game. In addition, I think he needs a coach who can show him how to get more of a killer instinct. This may be difficult for Rodger since it may not be in his nature. He plays too defensive against Rafa.

Nadal's gift is to hit those power shots off both the forehand and backhand side. His second serve though loaded with spin is actually slow. Roger should step in and take it on the rise. Federer should know that most Nadal serves are coming to his backhand but I never saw him over play. It seems Rafa dictates how the matches are played between them. Verdasco played more aggressively against Nadal than Rodger. I encourage Federer to change it around and play like Verdaco.

I'm not sure but do believe Federer is playing without a coach. Someone needs to get him mentally better prepared. He has all the tools as you say. He should get about 2 or 3 more grand slam titles IMO. One has to give Nadal all the credit for how he plays like there's no tomorrow.

I want to thank you for all your hard work photographing the Australian Open. I love my 5D Mk 11 and trust its AF system. Your results proved it can work well for many people including me ....
 
Hi Richie,

I am a huge Fed fan and I want him to beat Pete's record as soon as possible. I agree with a couple of the commentators that he should consider getting a full-time coach.

I honestly think Roger should have done more on the ad-side when he had a few break points. I am surprise he did not mix it up by chipping and charging down the line towards Rafa's backhand. He also respected Rafa's down the middle serve in the ad-court too much. I think he should be cheating more towards the doubles alley and make Rafa serve it down the T.

Lastly, I don't think Roger will win a lot of those crosscourt forehand (Rafa's) to his backhand. I've seen Rafa's high bouncing balls on court level and those balls are tough to hit especially if you have a one-handed backhand. I think Roger should take some lessons from Tony Roche and/or Roy Emmerson on how to hit a power slice backhand----not the slice backhand that a lot of pros are hitting these days (those kinda sit up).

Best regards,

José
richiedodson said:
He's a great player - but I couldn't help feeling that Federer has
much better touch, better mix of shots, harder to read and a better
overall game than Raf. I think that maybe Federer's mind was on other
things like setting records rather than just the match by itself. He
seemed to be so overwhelmed by the presence of the 'Legends' at the
end. I'd think Federer was in perfect physical condition so I doubt
fitness comes into it - but yes Raf must be pretty awesome just to
beat such a great player as Federer... great match.
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José B said:
I am a huge Fed fan and I want him to beat Pete's record as soon as
possible. I agree with a couple of the commentators that he should
consider getting a full-time coach.

I honestly think Roger should have done more on the ad-side when he
had a few break points. I am surprise he did not mix it up by
chipping and charging down the line towards Rafa's backhand. He also
respected Rafa's down the middle serve in the ad-court too much. I
think he should be cheating more towards the doubles alley and make
Rafa serve it down the T.

Lastly, I don't think Roger will win a lot of those crosscourt
forehand (Rafa's) to his backhand. I've seen Rafa's high bouncing
balls on court level and those balls are tough to hit especially if
you have a one-handed backhand. I think Roger should take some
lessons from Tony Roche and/or Roy Emmerson on how to hit a power
slice backhand----not the slice backhand that a lot of pros are
hitting these days (those kinda sit up).

Best regards,

José
richiedodson said:
He's a great player - but I couldn't help feeling that Federer has
much better touch, better mix of shots, harder to read and a better
overall game than Raf. I think that maybe Federer's mind was on other
things like setting records rather than just the match by itself. He
seemed to be so overwhelmed by the presence of the 'Legends' at the
end. I'd think Federer was in perfect physical condition so I doubt
fitness comes into it - but yes Raf must be pretty awesome just to
beat such a great player as Federer... great match.
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'high IQ'
Click to expand...
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Feeling it from downtown with the well-endowed FiftyDee, the 2Marks
and hitting the quadrupLe-doubLe
http://www.pbase.com/jmb_56/portraiture_5dmkii
http://www.modelmayhem.com/joji2020
Click to expand...
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Feeling it from downtown with the well-endowed FiftyDee, the 2Marks and hitting the quadrupLe-doubLe
http://www.pbase.com/jmb_56/portraiture_5dmkii
http://www.modelmayhem.com/joji2020
 
great pics Jose'
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Hi Charlie - I think Federer will come back next time and not make the same mistake... his mind will be right on the job.
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