Damaraland (Namibia): star trails (1 img)

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While in Namibia I finally had an opportunity to have my go at star trails. Here in Europe there's way too much light and hardly any stars visible most of the time. But in Namibia I knew it would be different. The night sky was amazing on most nights, but only in Damaraland I could setup my camera to capture only the light emitted by the stars. It was also the best place where I had an interesting view in the southern direction from just outside our sleeping quarters. I only got one more opportunity after this, but it wasn't close in terms of compositional potential.

I set it up outside our tent and pointed it towards the south after locating the southern cross. Since it was the very first try, I decided to set the DA10-17 at 10mm to capture as much as possible from the sky (as many starts as possible), set the largest aperture (f/3.5) and programmed the remote for a 30 minute exposure to start 3 minutes after pressing the release on the remote. This gave me enough time to shut off the lights I needed for the setup and to get back inside the tent. I left the camera outside for 30min and took it in half way through the 30min dark frame subtraction that followed. Fell asleep in my bed (it was a big tent) subsequently so I only saw the result the next morning. First conclusion was that I should have tried longer than 30min because the star trails are a bit short for my taste. Also I had left it to ISO200 (with D-range) which was the base setting for the entire trip, and realised perhaps I should have used ISO100 to reduce noise a bit more (I could have brought out the foreground more then).



I tried another one a few days later in another place, but the scenery wasn't nearly as good and there was some stray light. I setup for 1h15min which turned out to be too ambitious as the result was too noisy. Forgot to adapt the ISO again, so probably that way partly the problem. Another problem then was that I couldn't locate the southern cross (it turned out to be behind a hill) so I guessed the south deriving the west from where I remembered the sun had set earlier. Slightly missed it, so the result wasn't really decent. Furthermore that night some clouds must have passed through the sky since the star trails were interrupted at times. They were nice and long, but overall I prefer the first trial by far. I haven't processed the second one yet (and I don't think I will), so I cannot show it.

Critiques, suggestions and so on are welcome on the one I am showing here. Not that I'm going to have another go at star trails soon, if only because I live in an area where this type of photography is just impossible... But perhaps you may have some pointers for the best post processing of this type of image?

tx, Wim

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Very well done, Wim! Like looking into a vortex ... I like it - no, it's great!

Not knowing the original state of things (the RAW file) I'd suggest to go a bit on the cooler side with color temperatur, and to try to up contrast on the trails themselves. The dark frame at the bottom can stay dark IMO.

I don't have that much experience with star trail photography though; three years back I did this one with a meagre exposure time of 4 and a half minutes with my Ds - if you're interested have a look here: http://www.pbase.com/phsan/image/49836898
It was done on a clear September night in the middle of Germany ...

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Very well done, Wim! Like looking into a vortex ... I like it - no,
it's great!
Well. I still regret not having had the patience to setup for 45 minutes... But the more I look at the result the less I regret it... ;-)
Not knowing the original state of things (the RAW file) I'd suggest
to go a bit on the cooler side with color temperatur, and to try to
up contrast on the trails themselves. The dark frame at the bottom
can stay dark IMO.
The contrast has been pushed already. The colour is actually what came out, although I pushed it a bit (vibrance in Lightroom). I tried a cooler colour temperature, but that messed up the colour of the stars themselves, giving me some magenta and cyan ones, which was very unnatural. The night sky as we see it with the naked eye is mostly black and white and coloured by the atmosphere (blueish), but these long exposures really bring out very different colours that perhaps don't meet our expectations, but I think they are real nevertheless. But I might try some subtle adjustments though...
I don't have that much experience with star trail photography though;
three years back I did this one with a meagre exposure time of 4 and
a half minutes with my Ds - if you're interested have a look here:
http://www.pbase.com/phsan/image/49836898
It was done on a clear September night in the middle of Germany ...
Nice! I guess much longer than 4 minutes is just not possible in our industrial nations. Certainly not 30 minutes... And 30 minutes is really what you need for this kind of shots. Ok, longer focal lengths could work with less but 15 minutes is a minimum I think. Trouble is finding a sky where no other lights influence the light from the stars and doing the exposure on a clear night when the moon isn't out yet. You don't get too many opportunities. Even in "perfect" Namibia I only got one really good chance.

Wim

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I think it is a great, great shot. And thanks for the explanation.

Why is it that the camera should be pointed south ?

You should not have any regret regarding the picture. It really has a lot in it.

Probably Martin Zalba could give you more tips, if you need it :
http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1036&message=29136989

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Sune



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Sorry, off topic, but I wonder if you've ever been to Chile? I went out into the Humboldt Current off the coast of Chile looking for seabirds with a dude named Wim from Belgium.

Bruce
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PS: nice try on the stars. I'll be interested in what feedback you get. Tried this with film but not digital.

Bruce
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I think I agree with Phil that the colour balance should be a little cooler, but everything else is perfect, IMHO. The composition, the length of the star trails - it's a terrific capture. It's exactly the kind of shot I'd be hoping to get if I was in a place where it was possible. I'm at 50 degrees north latitude and the celestial pole is way too high to get a composition like that.
Why is it that the camera should be pointed south ?
He was in Namibia, which is in the southern hemisphere, so the North Star wasn't visible. In the northern hemisphere you'd have to point the camera north to get a similar picture (although it wouldn't show the Magellanic Clouds!).
 
Why is it that the camera should be pointed south ?
He was in Namibia, which is in the southern hemisphere, so the North
Star wasn't visible. In the northern hemisphere you'd have to point
the camera north to get a similar picture (although it wouldn't show
the Magellanic Clouds!).
What had happened and what had it looked like, if he had taken the picture in a different direction ?

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kind regards
Sune



“The new 14.6 MP Samsung/Pentax sensor is for real. Noise is admirably low'
K20D AnandTech Review
 
Sorry, off topic, but I wonder if you've ever been to Chile? I went
out into the Humboldt Current off the coast of Chile looking for
seabirds with a dude named Wim from Belgium.

Bruce
Hi Bruce, not me I think, that must have been another Wim. There's a lot of us here in Belgium, even quite a few with the same last name. I remember when I was at university there were three guys named like me studying there.

I've travelled to a lot of places, once getting quite close to Chile when I was travelling through Southern Peru, but I was never in Chile. Though it's on my list of places to visit... Should be a great place for another star trails trials... :-)

Wim

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I think it is a great, great shot. And thanks for the explanation.

Why is it that the camera should be pointed south?
If you want to have a circular shape in your star trails you have to include the center of rotation in your image. If you're in the northern hemisphere, that means pointing to the Pole star, in the southern hemisphere the Southern Cross is what you should be aiming at. Reason is that the earth rotates around its north-south axis.
You should not have any regret regarding the picture. It really has a
lot in it.

Probably Martin Zalba could give you more tips, if you need it :
http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1036&message=29136989
I'll sure check that out, thanks!

Wim

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Belgium, GMT+1

 
I think I agree with Phil that the colour balance should be a little
cooler, but everything else is perfect, IMHO. The composition, the
length of the star trails - it's a terrific capture.
A lucky first shot, so basically beginner's luck I guess. I tried playing with the white balance, but so far I haven't found precisely what feels right...
It's exactly
the kind of shot I'd be hoping to get if I was in a place where it
was possible. I'm at 50 degrees north latitude and the celestial
pole is way too high to get a composition like that.
Possibly. Note however that I was relatively close to the hill top to the left and that I used the DA10-17 at 10mm pointed 45° up.
Why is it that the camera should be pointed south ?
He was in Namibia, which is in the southern hemisphere, so the North
Star wasn't visible. In the northern hemisphere you'd have to point
the camera north to get a similar picture (although it wouldn't show
the Magellanic Clouds!).
Hmm, didn't know about those Magellanic Clouds... I'm googling that...

tx! Wim

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Why not go for a different color. Might enhance the situation. I gave it a try with 'Replace Color' in Photoshop, if I may be so free...



If you try this on your full size 16 bit photo it'll give a better result I think.

I've tried a star trail picture myself as well. I recently moved from not-so-starry Holland to the middle of Sweden. Here you'll se lots of stars:)

Here's one of my house, lit by a street light an the full moon. 30 min. exposure:



It is a really cool thing to experiment with, only downside, I've noticed a lot of very hard noise in the photo's... So only for small web-sized pictures :p

JelleSE
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Why not go for a different color. Might enhance the situation. I gave
it a try with 'Replace Color' in Photoshop, if I may be so free...
SNIP
If you try this on your full size 16 bit photo it'll give a better
result I think.
I see what you mean. I'll try it on the full size image, but I'm not really a fan of purple. But I'll experiment with a few different colours instead. Thanks for the tip!
I've tried a star trail picture myself as well. I recently moved from
not-so-starry Holland to the middle of Sweden. Here you'll se lots of
stars:)

Here's one of my house, lit by a street light an the full moon. 30
min. exposure:
SNIP

Nice shot! I might keep that in mind for a next trial. However, this would add another requirement to the scene for me. Not only clear sky and interesting horizon north or south (depending hemisphere) plus very close by the hotel room, but also an interesting foreground... Not easy photography. ;-)
It is a really cool thing to experiment with, only downside, I've
noticed a lot of very hard noise in the photo's... So only for small
web-sized pictures :p
The one I posted had reasonable noise. I tried one later that was much worse. Could be related to stray light? My first had only star light, the other (and yours) had much more light sources... Though I expect it would be noticed much more on a foreground than in a starry sky?

tx Jelle!

Wim

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What had happened and what had it looked like, if he had taken the
picture in a different direction ?
A picture taken pointing east or west would show the star trails as mostly straight vertical lines.

A picture taken pointing north (from his position in the southern hemisphere) would show the trails as arcs (like rainbows), but the centre of rotation would not be visible since it would be below the horizon.
 
Hmm, didn't know about those Magellanic Clouds... I'm googling that...
The Magellanic clouds are the fuzzy blobs at the 8 o'clock and 10'oclock positions from the south celestial pole in your photo. The fuzzy vertical "cloud" with the dark bands that runs close to the right edge of the picture is the Milky Way.
 
A picture taken pointing east or west would show the star trails as
mostly straight vertical lines.

A picture taken pointing north (from his position in the southern
hemisphere) would show the trails as arcs (like rainbows), but the
centre of rotation would not be visible since it would be below the
horizon.
Thanks a lot, this makes sense. Some of us are less mathematical / natural science knowledgeable, so good to know :-)

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kind regards
Sune



“The new 14.6 MP Samsung/Pentax sensor is for real. Noise is admirably low'
K20D AnandTech Review
 
A picture taken pointing east or west would show the star trails as
mostly straight vertical lines.
Actually I erred a bit with this one. The lines will be mostly straight, but they'll only be vertical if you're on the equator. If you are at 30 degrees north or south latitude, for example, then the star trails will be tilted 30 degrees left or right.
 
I like it Wim. I will have to try that out here in our desert one day.

Cheers.
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I like it Wim. I will have to try that out here in our desert one day.
Thanks Ron!

You should try it. I'm surprised to hear you haven't already! With your knowledge of your region and the dramatic landscapes you have, you should be able to get some really interesting images for sure! Picking the perfect spot shouldn't be a problem. But I can imagine temperature at night can be less comfortable in Utah, and keeping your camera warm enough for the battery not to give up during the exposure could be an additional concern. It wasn't exactly warm at night in Namibia but it never got critically cold either and I setup my gear only 3 meters from the entrance to our warm tent...

Wim

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Belgium, GMT+1

 
Hmm, didn't know about those Magellanic Clouds... I'm googling that...
The Magellanic clouds are the fuzzy blobs at the 8 o'clock and
10'oclock positions from the south celestial pole in your photo.
The fuzzy vertical "cloud" with the dark bands that runs close to the
right edge of the picture is the Milky Way.
I knew the Milky Way, but the Magallanic Clouds were new to me. I read up on them in the mean time. Interesting stuff! Thanks for pointing them out Sean!!

Wim

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