just rolled the D-60 counter

Tom Carpenter · May 29, 2002

Hey folks,

Just wanted to pass along that I rolled the counter on my D-60 over the weekend, and the camera is going strong as ever. The poor guy's even taken some hearty knocks and bangs (fortunately only with the 50mm on- I still treat my L glass like eggshells), but keeps on ticking, good as new.

I just shot number 0899 on the new counter last night. I'll post when I roll 10,000 again.

In the meantime, I'll try to get some shots up, as soon as I free some disk space

--
Good shooting!

Tom

Frank Miller · May 29, 2002

What do you use the camera for? I hope it's not just pictures of your kids, because if it is, I feel sorry for them.

Tom said:
Hey folks,

Just wanted to pass along that I rolled the counter on my D-60 over
the weekend, and the camera is going strong as ever. The poor
guy's even taken some hearty knocks and bangs (fortunately only
with the 50mm on- I still treat my L glass like eggshells), but
keeps on ticking, good as new.

I just shot number 0899 on the new counter last night. I'll post
when I roll 10,000 again.

In the meantime, I'll try to get some shots up, as soon as I free
some disk space

--
Good shooting!

Tom

--
RZ
http://www.rzphotos.com

Guillaume in Paris · May 29, 2002

You've taken 10000 pictures already??? when did you get the cam????

Tom Carpenter · May 29, 2002

No kids, but I feel sorry for my friends

The short answer is I'm using it for learning photography. I wouldn't call myself pro yet, but I'm working on it. I've been shooting digitally for 4 years now, but this is my first D-SLR. With the D-60 my shooting has increased tenfold, and so has my learning rate. I was doing a lot of landscapes and cityscapes over the winter, now I am focusing on portraits and low-light photography. I've also used the D-60 for nature photography (geese & bald eagles), events (parties & plays), documentary work (in support of filming), fine art photography and some fashion in the last 8 weeks. I've shot everything so far except macro and weddings with it

I can't praise the camera enough. Paired with a Speedlite 420 and a laptop with a CD burner, I was able to shoot 170 shots for an album cover in just under an hour and leave the client with a CD of the results in his hands. With the 70-200L IS, I was able to generate hundreds of printable lighting and costume shots for a production company using stage lighting and shooting from the first balcony. The same lens with a 2x extender let me see the tongues of geese as they honked and hollered and gyrated in for landing at a lake down south, and let me capture 20 frames of a mature bald eagle diving at a fish. Using a tripod, I was able to get beautiful shots of the WTC tribute lights coming out of the downtown Manhattan cityscape the very night I got the camera. The 16-35L has captured amazing streetlife and architecture in and around Manhattan, and the 50mm f/1.4 has amazed me with the results it's delivered in low-light settings.

Now I just need to pay off my investment. Maybe I will become my own stock archive

Cheers!

RZ said:
Tom said:

Hey folks,

Just wanted to pass along that I rolled the counter on my D-60 over
the weekend, and the camera is going strong as ever. The poor
guy's even taken some hearty knocks and bangs (fortunately only
with the 50mm on- I still treat my L glass like eggshells), but
keeps on ticking, good as new.

I just shot number 0899 on the new counter last night. I'll post
when I roll 10,000 again.

In the meantime, I'll try to get some shots up, as soon as I free
some disk space

Click to expand...

Tom Carpenter · May 29, 2002

I received it about April 4th. I already had the 16-35L and 70-200L IS, so I was able to start shooting right away.

Guillaume (e2polgui) said:
You've taken 10000 pictures already??? when did you get the cam????

--
Good shooting!

Tom

Guillaume in Paris · May 29, 2002

But i expect to shoot that much myself... poor little shutter mechanism... i hope it's durable!

Tom Carpenter · May 29, 2002

So far so good

Like I said, I'll report back when I roll it again...

Guillaume (e2polgui) said:
But i expect to shoot that much myself... poor little shutter
mechanism... i hope it's durable!

--
Good shooting!

Tom

Guillaume in Paris · May 29, 2002

for the 150.000th picture followed by the shutter mechanism failure (as rated by Canon)

Tom Carpenter · May 29, 2002

If I recall correctly, Canon tested the shutter only to 150,000, indicating it might well last longer

But I'll let you know...

Guillaume (e2polgui) said:
for the 150.000th picture followed by the shutter mechanism failure
(as rated by Canon)

--
Good shooting!

Tom

AwakeAtTheWheel · May 30, 2002

Tom said:
Hey folks,

Just wanted to pass along that I rolled the counter on my D-60 over
the weekend, and the camera is going strong as ever.

Tom Carpenter said:
I just shot number 0899 on the new counter last night. I'll post
when I roll 10,000 again.

Tom, can you be a bit more technical? I mean, about the numbers. What was the last number of the first 10,000 series? And what is the very next number (i.e., the first number of the new 10,000)? And does it increment up the first number for the next 10,000 so that you don't have to rename every picture file to maintain idiosyncratic numbers?

--
Sandy Santra
http://www.pbase.com/santra

vlaag · May 30, 2002

I have the D60 for a week, and already almost at number 2000 ;-)

Sandy Santra said:
Tom said:

Hey folks,

Just wanted to pass along that I rolled the counter on my D-60 over
the weekend, and the camera is going strong as ever.

Click to expand...

AwakeAtTheWheel said:

I just shot number 0899 on the new counter last night. I'll post
when I roll 10,000 again.

Click to expand...

Tom, can you be a bit more technical? I mean, about the numbers.
What was the last number of the first 10,000 series? And what is
the very next number (i.e., the first number of the new 10,000)?
And does it increment up the first number for the next 10,000 so
that you don't have to rename every picture file to maintain
idiosyncratic numbers?

--
Sandy Santra
http://www.pbase.com/santra

Tom Carpenter · May 30, 2002

In the review mode on the camera, the image numbers jumped from 198-9900 to 200-0001.

The corresponding files on the card had the physical file names of IMG_9900.JPG and IMG_0001.JPG respectively, and the folders on the card jumped from 198CANON to 200CANON.

The cards maintain continuous numbering by increasing the folder numbers. I maintain my images in directories based on date and location, so the recycled file numbers are not a problem.

But if you kept all 10,000 images in one large directory once you downloaded them, yes- they would try to overwrite each other.

I can't imagine many people having difficulties with this however. Once you are dealing with this many images, you will typically be using database programs and specialized directory structures to do your media asset management. At the very least, I expect you would use date or location-based directory naming to manage the files.

Apart from all that, as long as the EXIF information is intact, you can always easily distinguish your first IMG_0001.JPG from your fifth or sixth.

Cheers!

Sandy Santra said:
Tom said:

Hey folks,

Just wanted to pass along that I rolled the counter on my D-60 over
the weekend, and the camera is going strong as ever.

Click to expand...

AwakeAtTheWheel said:

I just shot number 0899 on the new counter last night. I'll post
when I roll 10,000 again.

Click to expand...

Tom, can you be a bit more technical? I mean, about the numbers.
What was the last number of the first 10,000 series? And what is
the very next number (i.e., the first number of the new 10,000)?
And does it increment up the first number for the next 10,000 so
that you don't have to rename every picture file to maintain
idiosyncratic numbers?

--
Sandy Santra
http://www.pbase.com/santra

--
Good shooting!

Tom

AwakeAtTheWheel · May 30, 2002

Tom said:
In the review mode on the camera, the image numbers jumped from
198-9900 to 200-0001.

Are these the numbers the pictures end up having as file names ON THE COMPUTER?

Tom Carpenter said:
The corresponding files on the card had the physical file names of
IMG_9900.JPG and IMG_0001.JPG respectively

Or are these the file names that end up on the computer? I need to know what the file names become when they end up on the computer.

This is a very important issue to me because I've worked hard the last year to develop a naming convention so that whenever picture files from varied years and decades (i.e., moving from the 1970s to the 80s, 90s, 00s, etc., using various cameras--Banner, Polaroid, Canon A-1, Pentax, Casio QV-10A, Canon S100, D60) are thrown together in the same directory, they are always automatically ordered chonologically just by the nature of their file names. Duplicate file names are really going to mess me up.

I had just assumed that the D60 would number the files on the computer like the Canon (P&S) S100 that I already have:

123-2301_IMG.JPG
123-2302_IMG.JPG
123-2303_IMG.JPG
...
124-2495_IMG.JPG
124-2496_IMG.JPG
etc.

But you make it sound like the first digit series (i.e., 123, 124 above) gets removed and replaced with "IMG" when the picture file is transferred from the D60 to your computer.

--
Sandy Santra
http://www.pbase.com/santra

Tom Carpenter · May 30, 2002

If you copy the files directly off the card, they will be named like IMG_9900.JPG and IMG_0001.JPG on the computer. The folder number does not appear in the filename as with your S100. If you import the images via USB, there might be a way to preserve this info, but this is way too slow to be practical for my workflow.

I believe the different Canon camera lines have different naming conventions. I think this is typical for most manufacturers, esp. between P&S and pro models.

I used to rename all my images, too, but it quickly became too laborious and I now use directories based on date and location to organize the images. You can read the camera model off the EXIF information if you leave your originals intact (i.e. copy the originals before working on them in PhotoShop, etc.).

Good luck!

Sandy Santra said:
Tom said:

In the review mode on the camera, the image numbers jumped from
198-9900 to 200-0001.

Click to expand...

Are these the numbers the pictures end up having as file names ON
THE COMPUTER?

AwakeAtTheWheel said:

The corresponding files on the card had the physical file names of
IMG_9900.JPG and IMG_0001.JPG respectively

Click to expand...

Or are these the file names that end up on the computer? I need
to know what the file names become when they end up on the computer.

This is a very important issue to me because I've worked hard the
last year to develop a naming convention so that whenever picture
files from varied years and decades (i.e., moving from the 1970s to
the 80s, 90s, 00s, etc., using various cameras--Banner, Polaroid,
Canon A-1, Pentax, Casio QV-10A, Canon S100, D60) are thrown
together in the same directory, they are always automatically
ordered chonologically just by the nature of their file names.
Duplicate file names are really going to mess me up.

I had just assumed that the D60 would number the files on the
computer like the Canon (P&S) S100 that I already have:

123-2301_IMG.JPG
123-2302_IMG.JPG
123-2303_IMG.JPG
...
124-2495_IMG.JPG
124-2496_IMG.JPG
etc.

But you make it sound like the first digit series (i.e., 123, 124
above) gets removed and replaced with "IMG" when the picture file
is transferred from the D60 to your computer.

--
Sandy Santra
http://www.pbase.com/santra

--
Good shooting!

Tom

Frank Miller · May 30, 2002

If I remember correctly, CF cards use FAT16 as the directory structure, which has a 8 character limit to the file name, plus 3 characters for the extension. So, it's not possible for the camera to use more then 4 digits if the prepend CRW_ or IMG_ to the beginning.

Tom said:
I believe the different Canon camera lines have different naming
conventions. I think this is typical for most manufacturers, esp.
between P&S and pro models.

I used to rename all my images, too, but it quickly became too
laborious and I now use directories based on date and location to
organize the images. You can read the camera model off the EXIF
information if you leave your originals intact (i.e. copy the
originals before working on them in PhotoShop, etc.).

Good luck!

Sandy Santra said:

Tom said:

In the review mode on the camera, the image numbers jumped from
198-9900 to 200-0001.

Click to expand...

Are these the numbers the pictures end up having as file names ON
THE COMPUTER?

Tom Carpenter said:

The corresponding files on the card had the physical file names of
IMG_9900.JPG and IMG_0001.JPG respectively

Click to expand...

Or are these the file names that end up on the computer? I need
to know what the file names become when they end up on the computer.

This is a very important issue to me because I've worked hard the
last year to develop a naming convention so that whenever picture
files from varied years and decades (i.e., moving from the 1970s to
the 80s, 90s, 00s, etc., using various cameras--Banner, Polaroid,
Canon A-1, Pentax, Casio QV-10A, Canon S100, D60) are thrown
together in the same directory, they are always automatically
ordered chonologically just by the nature of their file names.
Duplicate file names are really going to mess me up.

I had just assumed that the D60 would number the files on the
computer like the Canon (P&S) S100 that I already have:

123-2301_IMG.JPG
123-2302_IMG.JPG
123-2303_IMG.JPG
...
124-2495_IMG.JPG
124-2496_IMG.JPG
etc.

But you make it sound like the first digit series (i.e., 123, 124
above) gets removed and replaced with "IMG" when the picture file
is transferred from the D60 to your computer.

--
Sandy Santra
http://www.pbase.com/santra

Click to expand...

--
Good shooting!

Tom

--
RZ
http://www.rzphotos.com

alFR · May 30, 2002

If you copy the files to the PC using Windows Explorer they end up on the computer as IMG_XXXX.jpg etc. If you use Zoombrowser (whether from the camera direct or via a card reader) they end up as XXX_XXXX.jpg etc. Don't know about breezebrowser, yarc etc.

Sandy Santra said:
Tom said:

In the review mode on the camera, the image numbers jumped from
198-9900 to 200-0001.

Click to expand...

Are these the numbers the pictures end up having as file names ON
THE COMPUTER?

AwakeAtTheWheel · May 31, 2002

alFR said:
If you copy the files to the PC using Windows Explorer they end up
on the computer as IMG_XXXX.jpg etc. If you use Zoombrowser
(whether from the camera direct or via a card reader) they end up
as XXX_XXXX.jpg etc. Don't know about breezebrowser, yarc etc.

Thanks. This is great news. I do use zoombrowser, and I plan to use the USB conduit. Crossing my fingers...

--
Sandy Santra
http://www.pbase.com/santra

AwakeAtTheWheel · Jun 2, 2002

AwakeAtTheWheel said:
alFR said:

If you copy the files to the PC using Windows Explorer they end up
on the computer as IMG_XXXX.jpg etc. If you use Zoombrowser
(whether from the camera direct or via a card reader) they end up
as XXX_XXXX.jpg etc.

Click to expand...

I'm good. Installed the Twain driver, connected D60 via USB, pictures copy correctly via ZoomBrowser into camera window as:

126-2601_IMG.JPG
126-2602_IMG.JPG
126-2603_IMG.JPG

etc.

--
Sandy Santra
http://www.pbase.com/santra

randy corbin · Jun 3, 2002

i was up to shot #850 or so , when i put what i thought was an empty cf card from my g2....it read data from the g2 cf card, and now the counter reads folder # 135, and image #3670.....what a bummer, I really wanted to keep track on the d60, and i dont feel like adding up now.....with the other card.....unfortunately, even when i put my other card in, it still counts from the g2 file #.....i guess i could reset everything....and reformat the cards......lol

Guillaume in Paris · Jun 8, 2002

10 days ago your message amazed me, 10000 shots in 2 months. I'm not so amazed anymore, as i'm flowing silently through my 3rd thousand of shots just for 1 week

)
i HOPE the shutter mechanism is rock-solid...

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