Sony A350 has 14.2 MP and MSRP of 900

Looks like sony is trying to copy Pentax now, who would have thought.
Or they are trying to make a cheap 14mp camera that will appeal to the richer mass market - the tilting lcd will interest most who are not very camera knowledgable, and the price is lower than the Pentax

Shame really, cause no doubt the K20D will be better.
 
plus i bet the IQ is pretty average. I've yet to be impressed by any
sony cameras IQ.
Although many will buy because of the tilting LCD screen.

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Well, it's a bit too early to bet on this kind of things no?

Lots of people bet that the Pentax 14,6MP sensor would be a disaster and look what's happening...

The only thing that is bothering me with these cameras is that they go one step further toward the disappearance of optical VF in entry level DSLR.

The fact that Sony chose to "shrink" the already rather small APS-C VF to allow for quick AF during LV gets me some cold sweat for the future of DSLRs... but maybe I am just overreacting.

I fear full EVF (or LV) DSLR are not far away... and I can't say I am happy about it...
 
I have to admit they look interesting from the perspective of a live-view nut - however this isn't the comprimise-less live-view people have dreamt about.

I would put my money on Samsung and Panasonic on coming up with a 'perfectly implemented' live view DSLR without viewfinder or AF comprimises.

Other than live view they don't really appear to have much going for them over anything else.

So far the strongest looking entry-mid DSLR looks to be the 450D followed closely by the K200D (and then E510 but thats an old model). Although if we are talking about old models the GX10 is sinking rapidly into this price range.....

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I defected to Pentax as I didnt like the way Sony took over Minolta. I was a Minolta fan for 30 years. Now a K10d nut case. Im not in a rush to get K20d. Im yet to be convinced cramming more pixels on a chip will produce better photos & live view is fine on a pocket camera but not on a dslr. Sony will always try to flood the market, doesnt mean their products are the best. I dont think the build quality will come anywhere near the K10d.
 
The 10MP CCD is already not that great at high ISO, I don't want to
see what the 14MP CCD will bring. Is Sony trying to flood the market?
Well the press release had a very telling sentance that went:

"High sensitivity operation at ISO 1600 and 3200 and very low noise are made possible by the user-selectable high-ISO noise reduction features"

User-selectable is good but its clear that unlike Pentax and the K20D Sony is not touting good high-iso performance on the A350.

However we shall have to see what happens when the camera is released. Thankfully the K20D has enough over the A350 to mitigate the A350 having just as high a resolution sensor.

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Didn't know where to put this...felt like saying something.
Wow, probably crazy of Sony...what were they thinking?! That price range!
Well the press release had a very telling sentance that went:

"High sensitivity operation at ISO 1600 and 3200 and very low noise
are made possible by the user-selectable high-ISO noise reduction
features"
User-selectable is good but its clear that unlike Pentax and the K20D
Sony is not touting good high-iso performance on the A350.
Sony is going to get the p&s upgraders. Hopefully (hopefully!) they will have learned something: NR is not a good thing! If they do, Pentax still doesn't have much of a chance. I haven't seen any Pentax cameras at BestBuy (would love to though!). Unless everyone has suddenly taken to reading reviews online...

I wish the best of luck (good luck at that) to Pentax. Oh, I'm a Pentax fanboy :D

However, by flooding the market, Sony are getting more shelf space. Honestly, I don't think they will get more sales even if the k200d is better .

Oh, I do like the idea of a tilting screen (yeah yeah, moving parts will break...). That really makes LV worthwhile. Hopefully Pentax will copy on Sony here (oh, if you don't want it to break, don't move it!).

Just my random thoughts (bash if you want, I probalby won't even read this thread again...so many interesting ones with pictures)!
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The whole shelf space thing is important. With Nikon and now Sony bracketing Canon with a raft of models ..... someone is going to be squeezed out.
Wow, probably crazy of Sony...what were they thinking?! That price
range!
Well the press release had a very telling sentance that went:

"High sensitivity operation at ISO 1600 and 3200 and very low noise
are made possible by the user-selectable high-ISO noise reduction
features"
User-selectable is good but its clear that unlike Pentax and the K20D
Sony is not touting good high-iso performance on the A350.
Sony is going to get the p&s upgraders. Hopefully (hopefully!) they
will have learned something: NR is not a good thing! If they do,
Pentax still doesn't have much of a chance. I haven't seen any Pentax
cameras at BestBuy (would love to though!). Unless everyone has
suddenly taken to reading reviews online...
I wish the best of luck (good luck at that) to Pentax. Oh, I'm a
Pentax fanboy :D
However, by flooding the market, Sony are getting more shelf space.
Honestly, I don't think they will get more sales even if the k200d is
better .
Oh, I do like the idea of a tilting screen (yeah yeah, moving parts
will break...). That really makes LV worthwhile. Hopefully Pentax
will copy on Sony here (oh, if you don't want it to break, don't move
it!).
Just my random thoughts (bash if you want, I probalby won't even read
this thread again...so many interesting ones with pictures)!
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Looking at the features found in other cameras, it does seem that the 20d is a bit underwhelming. Sure it has 14 megapixels but that's all it has over other cameras in the same class. Build quality is subjective, fewer fps, slower autofocusing(most likely), and a live view that focuses slower than manual. It may beat out the D200 and 30D, but seems lacking in comparison to the D300, A700, 40D and even the A350.

Then again I'm perfectly happy with my k10d so no skin off my back.

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The 10MP CCD is already not that great at high ISO, I don't want to
see what the 14MP CCD will bring. Is Sony trying to flood the market?
The put "14.2 megapixels" on the front of the camera. This means the "megapixels for megapixels sake" craze is coming to DSLR. There's a reason they didn't put this sensor into a high-end camera. Sony has probably noticed that the absolutely clueless are starting to buy DSLRs, and they even charge them a premium for being clueless. I wouldn't be surprised if the A350 has lower IQ than the A300 already at ISO 200...
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You can't even try to compare these two camers. Sony A350 is an entry level camera, while K20D represents the "flagship" range from Pentax. But I guess K200D can and will suffer from ALPHA invasion. By the way, SONY's implementation of LV is unique, and hasn't been done yet by any other manufacturer, so I really don't know how can you speak about copying.
 
SONY's implementation of LV is unique, and hasn't been done yet
by any other manufacturer, so I really don't know how can you speak
about copying.
On the surface, it looks like a really interesting technology - but it makes the viewfinder magnification awful. And who would want to use the P&S arms-stretched shooting style with a DSLR?
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