Does this camera steal the E510's thunder?

Adam-T · Jan 24, 2008

devlin2427 said:
For me the interesting cameras will be the k20D and the succesor to
the D80.

I'm wondering if Nikon will be daring enough to use a Samsung CMOS in the D90 or will it have the Sony "Red-Noise" sensor of the D300 ? - hopefully the Samsung 14Mp

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Kurt Petersen · Jan 24, 2008

paintyou said:
Nah. I was erased when the forum crashed. I signed up that previous
week. O was forced to signup again. This forum is so screwy, I did
not even select the name "Paintyou." That was emailed to me in error.
I explained that somewhere Raist.

Right, your account was erased, and then you were 'given' a name you didn't choose when you rejoined, uh-huh, ok. But hey, you explained it all to us so that makes it fact, yep.

So how many other names have you had 'erased'? You seem to know your way around here pretty well.

Sheesh, I can't believe I'm replying to you, feeding your thread and craving for attention.

Raist3d · Jan 24, 2008

Kurt Petersen said:
paintyou said:

Nah. I was erased when the forum crashed. I signed up that previous
week. O was forced to signup again. This forum is so screwy, I did
not even select the name "Paintyou." That was emailed to me in error.
I explained that somewhere Raist.

Click to expand...

Right, your account was erased, and then you were 'given' a name you
didn't choose when you rejoined, uh-huh, ok. But hey, you explained
it all to us so that makes it fact, yep.
So how many other names have you had 'erased'? You seem to know your
way around here pretty well.
Sheesh, I can't believe I'm replying to you, feeding your thread and
craving for attention.

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wolfie · Jan 24, 2008

the Pentax K200D - sealed body, CCD-based IS at $US 800 - should have been the E-510W.
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Heikki Kultala · Jan 24, 2008

.. with my sigma 30/1.4.

(when we have "35mm equivalent" focal range of 57mm)

( 4 x sensor area, 2 stops better aperture)

But yes, it's nice to see fuji is not giving up the prosumer market like other camera manufacturers.

But I would have preferred faster aperture (some f/2.4 - f/4.0 ) instread of more zoom on the long end.

Ben Herrmann · Jan 24, 2008

Having both the Fuji S6000fd and the S9000, these cameras have their unique plusses (and negatives), but now Fuji has upped the ante by putting in IS, a 2/3" CCD (which is what many of us digicam users have been screaming for), and a whole list of other functions. This bodes well for Fuji and I hope it does well because I'll definitely wind up getting one. It's not designed to compete with our DSLR's, but on the digicam side of the house...wow, I'm stoked about this one.
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Inigo Montoya · Jan 24, 2008

paintyou said:
Inigo Montoya said:

It's not a DSLR - No optical viewfinder, No lens changes -

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Yes, but for the market segment, that can be a plus.

I still have to disagree. The E-510's market segment is "entry level DSLR".

This clearly isn't a DSLR -- it's more of a return to the "prosumer" level cams like the Oly Cx0x0 series.

While there may be some overlap between those looking for a prosumer vs a DSLR, they're still very distinct segments. Now, if it were an "EVIL" (electronic viewfinder, exchangeable lenses) camera, it would be more of a direct competitor.

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paintyou · Jan 24, 2008

Kurt Petersen said:
paintyou said:

Nah. I was erased when the forum crashed. I signed up that previous
week. O was forced to signup again. This forum is so screwy, I did
not even select the name "Paintyou." That was emailed to me in error.
I explained that somewhere Raist.

Click to expand...

Right, your account was erased, and then you were 'given' a name you
didn't choose when you rejoined, uh-huh, ok.

That is exactly what happened. I attempt to login the day the administrator said it could be done, no go. Kept getting a username error. So I registered again, using the same email, but I figured out that I needed to use a new username. Didn't bother me since I had only been posting for a week anyway. So I re-registered with a slightly different name, my own, with a middle initial, and the email I received in 20 minutes had a password. I logged in, and sure enough, "paintyou" was my name. My first post tells a bit of the story.

Paintyou? I have no idea. It's either a database error, or somehow that field got selected and I somehow typed over my selected username without realizing it. The same way, when posting, the subject line gets selected for no reason and I find myself typing there. I really don't remember typing the words "paint you" at any time though.

paintyou · Jan 24, 2008

Heikki Kultala said:
.. with my sigma 30/1.4.

(when we have "35mm equivalent" focal range of 57mm)

( 4 x sensor area, 2 stops better aperture)

But yes, it's nice to see fuji is not giving up the prosumer market
like other camera manufacturers.

But I would have preferred faster aperture (some f/2.4 - f/4.0 )
instread of more zoom on the long end.

Seems a bit faster than the DZ 12-60. At a focal length equivalent to the long end of the Zuiko, it probably is faster.

Tommy_2 · Jan 24, 2008

assuredly pick one of these up if the pic quality is good.

Tommy

paintyou · Jan 24, 2008

Yep, a 2/3 in. sensor does bring me back.

I am really curious as to how well Fuji has tamed high ISO noise.

Ben Herrmann said:
Having both the Fuji S6000fd and the S9000, these cameras have their
unique plusses (and negatives), but now Fuji has upped the ante by
putting in IS, a 2/3" CCD (which is what many of us digicam users
have been screaming for), and a whole list of other functions. This
bodes well for Fuji and I hope it does well because I'll definitely
wind up getting one. It's not designed to compete with our DSLR's,
but on the digicam side of the house...wow, I'm stoked about this one.
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As always - good shooting....

Ben

Drewtech · Jan 24, 2008

my first digicam was a Fuji S5000. They have been producing excellent cameras in this series but they are not DSLRs and that is why they are not competing with the E510.

For anyone who doesn't want a DSLR but wants something that is almost as good then I would recommend the Fuji's but I won't be trading in my E1 or E3 in the near future.
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Jeff · Jan 24, 2008

Well, it's not a DSLR replacement. If you need sharper lenses, brighter lenses, wider lenses, speed, faster AF, higher iso, shallow DOF -- shall I go on? -- stick with a DSLR.

On the other hand, this would be a very nice cam for a lot of folks. It's great to see cams like this on the market.

Jeff

paintyou said:
A sensor slightly smaller than the E510's, AS, no dust! And more DR,
the Achilles heel of 4/3rds.

http://www.dpreview.com/news/0801/08012410fujifS100FS.asp

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paintyou · Jan 24, 2008

Inigo Montoya said:
paintyou said:

Inigo Montoya said:

It's not a DSLR - No optical viewfinder, No lens changes -

Click to expand...

Yes, but for the market segment, that can be a plus.

Click to expand...

I still have to disagree. The E-510's market segment is "entry level
DSLR".

Yes, but IMO people don't buy in segments. Rather than say, "I want a single lens reflex," people have some money to spend and have a level of image quality and features they desire.

Perhaps I should have compared the camera to an E410, since it is less expensive. The Fuji does have optical stabilization though.

JonathanF · Jan 24, 2008

oliver_ir said:
As for the fuji camera vs the E-510, the
comparison is ridiculous. It's unlikely it will operate with the
speed of a DSLR or pack the quality glass required for the P&S size
sensor. Worse yet, Fuji will probably charge more for it than the
Olympus e-510 kit. These high end point and shoots are usually a
pretty penny.

The comparison is not that ridiculous. I don't think I was the only person sitting on the fence between p&s and dslr, who fell on the dslr side because of E-510. The new Fuji pushes the p&s envelop to a new level. Now there is a p&s that could operate close to the level of my dslr, and gives me back video.

As to price, it would be substantially less than the current retail price of my dslr setup. It will be much easier to carry than my dslr plus an additional cam for video.
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paintyou · Jan 24, 2008

Digital photography is entering an exciting time for sure.

I have read both some pro and some con here, and all opinions are welcome of course, (well, almost all, as long as they are on-topic and not inflammatory.)

I'll check in a few days to respond to any more replies. I'm running out of juice, laptop is ready to die, have to go back to work.

See ya soon!

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