The EVIL Camera Design Project update...

Started Oct 30, 2007 | Discussions thread
OP chuxter Forum Pro • Posts: 21,714
Re: I'd buy one ... BUT

You ask good questions...

DirectorOfIncompetenceCompetency wrote:

I'm not a rocket scientist and I don't play one on tv, so my
knowledge of sensors is limited. My assumption in understanding the
argument for an anti-shutter shutter/ electronic shutter is to
provide total darkness on the sensor. This is because the sensor is
still powered and receiving information? What happens if you
de-energize the sensor while all the other electronical whiz-bang
stuff is happening? Does it take too long to power the sensor to a
ready state? Can you not do dark-frame subtraction with nothing
being input to the sensor? Maybe it's not turning off the sensor,
but shifting the information input from the sensor to some other
source when necessary. I'm just speculating here. Pardon my
significant ignorance to the way technology currently works. This is
part fantasy is it not?

Let me respond to your last question first...I don't know for sure what you are asking. If you are asking about needing a dark environment during the period when the data is being transferred off the sensor, the answer is yes. If you were asking if some of your ideas about how to eliminate the "blinder", the answer is yes.

Even with the sensor powered down, the Silicon photodiodes respond to light.

As far as shutter speed and wanting to stop / blur motion why
couldn't it just be symbolic? From three hourglasses (real slow) to
5 stop watches (super fast)....or it could be rabbits and
turtles....I think you might be limiting yourself in terms of what
might work the best to communicate information...and before mr
Ominous equates my suggestion to the more simplistic idiot lights on
p&s cameras, I think a paralell in design can be found in video game
controllers. From the Atari joystick, to the Nintendo pad with two
buttons, to the Wii controllers, there was a learning curve
associated with each of these device which required an adaptation in
the brain....and for older people that sort of mental gymnastics is
always more challenging (think Monty Python "my brain hurts").

The problem with icons is that they often are culturally sensitive. While you and I might understand the tortise and hare paradigm, other cultures might eat these critters for dinner! One solution for this is to have an Icon Help feature. Note that I don't have ANY icons or words on the camera body or hand grip. This was intentional (I guess I should include this description in the rewrite?). I intend to put a strip of plastic/metal/paper to the left of the buttons on the back of the hand grip. This strip will allow the user to customize the icons for these buttons, which are programmable. The user can select icons that imply the correct function.

While you are trying to realize the next evolution of image capture
technology, I would recommend freeing yourself from all previous
design parameters create new ones. Be even bolder than you have
been. Does it have to be a square? Do you ahve to hold it in your
hands? Is Bluetooth too old of a technology? Are there information
transfer capabilities limiting you? What could laser beams do? Is
there any room for sharks with laser beams?

You might explain the "sharks with laser beams"...

While this is a rather speculative design exercise, I sorta wanted to keep it realistic. If I was to suggest a completely "new" idea, it would be rejected by many people (who can't stand new ideas). My goal is NOT to go into business, patent ideas, etc. My goal is to show camera manufacturers and customers that it's time to do an EVIL camera. I intentionally limited my self to ideas that I know how to build. I haven't suggested anything that is not possible...today.

I really like "brainstorming" and am quite good at it. But "brainstorming" requires:

1. The participants know each other
2. The participants are comfortable enough to suggest silly ideas
3. The participants have already established a pecking order

None of these conditions exist here on dpr or any other forums that I know of.

my $0.0000002950 worth.

I understand that the US dollar is getting worthless, but certainly your ideas are worth more than that.

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