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I have just started trying different resolution and compression settings and I find in the menu no matter what I set and come out of the menu then go back again it always reverts to Tiff 2240x1680. No matter how many times I change this it always defaults back to Tiff, is this a problem or should it be so.

Colin.
 
Colin Smith said:
I have just started trying different resolution and compression
settings and I find in the menu no matter what I set and come out
of the menu then go back again it always reverts to Tiff 2240x1680.
No matter how many times I change this it always defaults back to
Tiff, is this a problem or should it be so.

Colin.
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Colin,

The resolution/compression settings only apply to .jpg. Tiff is always full resolution and no compression.
--Joe-TN http://www.pbase.com/joe_tn/shared_photos
 
Colin Smith said:
I have just started trying different resolution and compression
settings and I find in the menu no matter what I set and come out
of the menu then go back again it always reverts to Tiff 2240x1680.
No matter how many times I change this it always defaults back to
Tiff, is this a problem or should it be so.

Colin.
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Hmm, I've only been here a month, but this question comes up a lot. I think maybe Olympus should have put this part of the menu in the "setup" mode only.

You are not actually shooting in TIFF unless you see "TIFF" on the top LCD status display. The menu on the color display is not for changing the quality that you're shooting at, but for changing the meaning of SHQ, HQ, and SQ to suit your own needs so that you can quickly select quality levels that work for you.

To actually switch between SHQ, HQ and SQ once you have them configured to your quality needs, you need to hold down the button that looks like a pixellated arrow on the top of the camera and then turn one of the two settings dials. This will allow you to cycle between TIFF, SHQ, HQ and SQ on the top panel, which is where you can actually see what mode the camera is in.

-Aron
 
Aron Hsiao said:
Colin Smith said:
I have just started trying different resolution and compression
settings and I find in the menu no matter what I set and come out
of the menu then go back again it always reverts to Tiff 2240x1680.
No matter how many times I change this it always defaults back to
Tiff, is this a problem or should it be so.

Colin.
Click to expand...
Hmm, I've only been here a month, but this question comes up a lot.
I think maybe Olympus should have put this part of the menu in the
"setup" mode only.

You are not actually shooting in TIFF unless you see "TIFF" on the
top LCD status display. The menu on the color display is not for
changing the quality that you're shooting at, but for changing the
meaning of SHQ, HQ, and SQ to suit your own needs so that you can
quickly select quality levels that work for you.

To actually switch between SHQ, HQ and SQ once you have them
configured to your quality needs, you need to hold down the button
that looks like a pixellated arrow on the top of the camera and
then turn one of the two settings dials. This will allow you to
cycle between TIFF, SHQ, HQ and SQ on the top panel, which is where

you can actually see what mode the camera is in. So is this correct or do I have set the menu every time I switch the camera on, I thought that once that was set to say SHQ then it should stay at that setting unitl altered. or am I still not getting the point.

-Aron
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Aron,

I may not have explained very well and I think i am a little thick in understanding your reply, but thanks anyway. The setting I use on the control panel is set to SHQ but the coloured menu after altering to SHQ still reverts back to Tiff when I come out of the menu and go back in.
 
That is how it works. That is how to select the different settings. There is no changing that menu.
Colin Smith said:
Aron Hsiao said:
Colin Smith said:
I have just started trying different resolution and compression
settings and I find in the menu no matter what I set and come out
of the menu then go back again it always reverts to Tiff 2240x1680.
No matter how many times I change this it always defaults back to
Tiff, is this a problem or should it be so.

Colin.
Click to expand...
Hmm, I've only been here a month, but this question comes up a lot.
I think maybe Olympus should have put this part of the menu in the
"setup" mode only.

You are not actually shooting in TIFF unless you see "TIFF" on the
top LCD status display. The menu on the color display is not for
changing the quality that you're shooting at, but for changing the
meaning of SHQ, HQ, and SQ to suit your own needs so that you can
quickly select quality levels that work for you.

To actually switch between SHQ, HQ and SQ once you have them
configured to your quality needs, you need to hold down the button
that looks like a pixellated arrow on the top of the camera and
then turn one of the two settings dials. This will allow you to
cycle between TIFF, SHQ, HQ and SQ on the top panel, which is where

you can actually see what mode the camera is in. So is this correct or do I have set the menu every time I switch the camera on, I thought that once that was set to say SHQ then it should stay at that setting unitl altered. or am I still not getting the point.

-Aron
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Aron,

I may not have explained very well and I think i am a little thick
in understanding your reply, but thanks anyway. The setting I use
on the control panel is set to SHQ but the coloured menu after
altering to SHQ still reverts back to Tiff when I come out of the
menu and go back in.
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--TonyK
 
Colin Smith said:
Aron Hsiao said:
Colin Smith said:
I have just started trying different resolution and compression
settings and I find in the menu no matter what I set and come out
of the menu then go back again it always reverts to Tiff 2240x1680.
No matter how many times I change this it always defaults back to
Tiff, is this a problem or should it be so.

Colin.
Click to expand...
Hmm, I've only been here a month, but this question comes up a lot.
I think maybe Olympus should have put this part of the menu in the
"setup" mode only.

You are not actually shooting in TIFF unless you see "TIFF" on the
top LCD status display. The menu on the color display is not for
changing the quality that you're shooting at, but for changing the
meaning of SHQ, HQ, and SQ to suit your own needs so that you can
quickly select quality levels that work for you.

To actually switch between SHQ, HQ and SQ once you have them
configured to your quality needs, you need to hold down the button
that looks like a pixellated arrow on the top of the camera and
then turn one of the two settings dials. This will allow you to
cycle between TIFF, SHQ, HQ and SQ on the top panel, which is where

you can actually see what mode the camera is in. So is this correct or do I have set the menu every time I switch the camera on, I thought that once that was set to say SHQ then it should stay at that setting unitl altered. or am I still not getting the point.

-Aron
Click to expand...
Aron,

I may not have explained very well and I think i am a little thick
in understanding your reply, but thanks anyway. The setting I use
on the control panel is set to SHQ but the coloured menu after
altering to SHQ still reverts back to Tiff when I come out of the
menu and go back in.
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I don't know what happened to the text above it has scrambled it to your reply.
 
Colin Smith said:
I may not have explained very well and I think i am a little thick
in understanding your reply, but thanks anyway. The setting I use
on the control panel is set to SHQ but the coloured menu after
altering to SHQ still reverts back to Tiff when I come out of the
menu and go back in.
Click to expand...
Colin,

This is as expected because the colored menu is not there to select the quality you're shooting at. You're misunderstanding what the colored menu is used for. The colored menu allows you to change what SHQ, HQ and SQ mean. For example, if I remember correctly the defaults are:

TIFF = 2240x1680, 1:1
SHQ = 2240x1680, 1:2.7
HQ = 2240x1680, 1:8
SQ = 1280x960, 1:8

However, you could easily change this to:

TIFF = 2240x1680, 1:1
SHQ = 2240x1680, 1:8
HQ = 1600x1200, 1:4
SQ = 1600x1200, 1:8

See? You have used the colored menu to change what SHQ, HQ, and SQ mean. But when you first enter the menu it will always show "TIFF" regardless of what mode you are shooting in because they are unrelated.

Again, when you change the colored menu so that it reads 'SHQ' and then exit, you are not "setting" the camera to SHQ mode -- you are entering the mode to edit what SHQ "means" and then exiting.

If the LCD on top of the camera says "SHQ" then you are shooting at SHQ.

Please see pages 103-105 of your manual for details.

-Aron
 
Colin Smith said:
I have just started trying different resolution and compression
settings and I find in the menu no matter what I set and come out
of the menu then go back again it always reverts to Tiff 2240x1680.
No matter how many times I change this it always defaults back to
Tiff, is this a problem or should it be so.

Colin.
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Colin, maybe you are talking about the fact the camera resets to certain settings when you turn it off... if so, there is a setting in the manual to make the e10 retain what ever you program in when it turns off....something under reset or auto reset...something like that--MATTinFL
 
Aron

Great explanation. Right on the money
Aron Hsiao said:
You are not actually shooting in TIFF unless you see "TIFF" on the
top LCD status display. The menu on the color display is not for
changing the quality that you're shooting at, but for changing the
meaning of SHQ, HQ, and SQ to suit your own needs so that you can
quickly select quality levels that work for you.

To actually switch between SHQ, HQ and SQ once you have them
configured to your quality needs, you need to hold down the button
that looks like a pixellated arrow on the top of the camera and
then turn one of the two settings dials. This will allow you to
cycle between TIFF, SHQ, HQ and SQ on the top panel, which is where
you can actually see what mode the camera is in.

-Aron
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--Brian http://photos.yahoo.com/bhk1
 
Great explanation, Aron!

Now what we need is the ability to set the E-20 IS/PS mode for each of the quality settings. For example, it makes no sense to shoot highest-res TIFF in PS mode, but my tests indicate little quality change shooting PS mode at half res or less. So I'd REALLY like to program my SQ/HQ to use PS mode, and have SHQ/TIFF/ORF in IS mode.

Are you listening, Olympus? Perhaps a firmware update?

--Jan Steinman -- [email protected] -- http://www.bytesmiths.com
 
Aron Hsiao said:
Colin Smith said:
I may not have explained very well and I think i am a little thick
in understanding your reply, but thanks anyway. The setting I use
on the control panel is set to SHQ but the coloured menu after
altering to SHQ still reverts back to Tiff when I come out of the
menu and go back in.
Click to expand...
Colin,

This is as expected because the colored menu is not there to select
the quality you're shooting at. You're misunderstanding what the
colored menu is used for. The colored menu allows you to change
what SHQ, HQ and SQ mean. For example, if I remember correctly the
defaults are:

TIFF = 2240x1680, 1:1
SHQ = 2240x1680, 1:2.7
HQ = 2240x1680, 1:8
SQ = 1280x960, 1:8

However, you could easily change this to:

TIFF = 2240x1680, 1:1
SHQ = 2240x1680, 1:8
HQ = 1600x1200, 1:4
SQ = 1600x1200, 1:8

See? You have used the colored menu to change what SHQ, HQ, and SQ
mean. But when you first enter the menu it will always show "TIFF"
regardless of what mode you are shooting in because they are
unrelated.

Again, when you change the colored menu so that it reads 'SHQ' and
then exit, you are not "setting" the camera to SHQ mode -- you are
entering the mode to edit what SHQ "means" and then exiting.

If the LCD on top of the camera says "SHQ" then you are shooting at
SHQ.

Please see pages 103-105 of your manual for details.

-Aron
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Aron,

Thanks for the splended explanation, I think I have it now. Would it not have been better had Olympus had made it to read whatever a person puts in and allowed it to stay in the menu until altered manually by the person instead of reverting back every time you come out of the menu.

I did understand that the resolution is set on the top panel and not in the menu. I sometime ago printed the manual and have read and re-read page 105 and still can not understand why it fails to keep the settings visually. At least a person would not have to remember what they had set on a previous occasion.

Colin.
 
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