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Who's considering switching to Nikon?
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Charlie Liu
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This is good sign...
At the time when I got my 10D 4 years ago.
I am actually worry Nikon one of the nice brand is going down hills
I can actually imagine that I will have a great debate with my friends who using Nikon gear... lol what an exciting time living in this SLR revolution in the Digital Age.
But think about D100 dont they have high iso setting, too... but not too much of use.
Hope it is as good as what it says with D3
At the time when I got my 10D 4 years ago.
I am actually worry Nikon one of the nice brand is going down hills
I can actually imagine that I will have a great debate with my friends who using Nikon gear... lol what an exciting time living in this SLR revolution in the Digital Age.
But think about D100 dont they have high iso setting, too... but not too much of use.
Hope it is as good as what it says with D3
Photomonkey
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Each will have to make their own decisions as to whether this new Nikon best meets their needs. It is, however, a stunning assemblage of technology that does trump the latest Canons in many ways.
I am sure we are going to see a lot of carping about all the new cameras but as far as I am concerned they will all take better photos than anything yet available under 10K.
Well done Nikon.
I am a Canon owner BTW. 5d, 1Dmk2.
I am sure we are going to see a lot of carping about all the new cameras but as far as I am concerned they will all take better photos than anything yet available under 10K.
Well done Nikon.
I am a Canon owner BTW. 5d, 1Dmk2.
shaktipalooza
Senior Member
The 1DsMk3 is a studio and landscape camera. Obvious from the fact that Canon didn't do anything to push the high ISO performance on it.
The D3 is a 5D killer on steroids. Wedding photographers will be rejoicing if this one lives up to the specifications.
5D sample gallery: http://mrs-h.smugmug.com/gallery/2539780#137075551
The D3 is a 5D killer on steroids. Wedding photographers will be rejoicing if this one lives up to the specifications.
--For me the 1DMkIII works great in the PJ/sports role...and the D3
doesn't trump it enough to make it worth a switch. Although I would
LOVE to have that LCD...
The D3 - although full frame - is nowhere near a replacement for the
17MP 1DsMk2 I have, or the 20MP 1DsMk3 I have on order.
It's good competition, but not "ground breaking" enough to cause me
to switch.
5D sample gallery: http://mrs-h.smugmug.com/gallery/2539780#137075551
IeraseU
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For those in the Canon camp not aware, the D3 is the sports camera. The D3x is coming next year....FF and high megapixels.
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shaktipalooza
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I was just talking to my brother who switched to Canon away from his D200. Nikons poor high ISO performance made it too painful for him to look at my 5D images.
He never got rid of the 70-200 VR which is by all accounts equal to or superior to the Canon equivalent (which I own).
Looking at the development history with Nikon I would have never guessed they'd catch up in such a big way, simply amazing.
5D sample gallery: http://mrs-h.smugmug.com/gallery/2539780#137075551
He never got rid of the 70-200 VR which is by all accounts equal to or superior to the Canon equivalent (which I own).
Looking at the development history with Nikon I would have never guessed they'd catch up in such a big way, simply amazing.
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5D sample gallery: http://mrs-h.smugmug.com/gallery/2539780#137075551
mballent
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You just switch to 2.0 high speed crop vs. the normal 1.5 crop. It the normal progression of the technology. This is great news for all digital photographers regardless of what we use to shoot.
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Sergio Azenha
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I own three Canon bodies (1D, 1Ds and 1Ds mk II) and all the lenses photojournalists like myself normally use (16-35, 70-200, etc), but this new Nikon D3 really makes me consider switching... pending seeing the first examples of actual photos taken with them, of course.
The Nikon D3 is actually my dream camera... at least on paper.
I do have the 16,7 mpixels 1Ds mk II, but it actually is a bit overkill for regular PJ work, so the 12 mpixels of the D3 seem just fine, especially considering that they allow for great pixel pitch and probably low high-ISO noise.
The 1D mk II would be a cheaper alternative, but I really love FF enough to warrant a complete system switch. And I would actually not mind selling all my Canon gear, as I'd been considering selling my current lenses and getting new ones anyway. I'll miss my 70-200 4 IS though... It's the best lens I've ever used optically wise (and I've owned the famous 200 1.8) and there is no Nikkor equivalent.
If I stay with Canon I have three options: stay with my current gear (which I'll have to do 'till the Nikon D3 proves to be as good as the specs seem to hint at), get the 1D mk III (loosing FF, which is a no-no) or going for the 1Ds mk III (though it's only 5 fps and 21 mpixels is really overkill for PJ work).
So, there you go, I might actually go back to Nikon (I was a Nikon shooter in the film days).
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The Nikon D3 is actually my dream camera... at least on paper.
- Full frame (I hate crop sensors and I've been using 1Ds series cameras for day-to-day photojournalist work, while most of the other PJs use 1D series)
- ISO up to 25,600 (as bad as ISO 25,600 may be, it's better to get a noisy photo than no photo at all, and I do work in some dark dark dark situations)
- 9 fps on FF (the 1Ds mk II I've been using only does 4 fps, and sometimes that is REALLY limiting... I actually miss some photos on occasions that require high frame rates)
- High-resolution LCD (perfect for accurately checking focus quickly in loco)
- Live-view with AF across all frame (perfect for tripod portraiture, kinda like an old Rolleiflex which I love)
- 5:4 ratio in camera (perfect for magazine work, as the magazines I work for tend to be more 5:4 in format than 3:2... now I can visualize the final print result when composing without having to buy the extra focusing screens that are available for the 1Ds series)
- Flash system (Nikon has always had the advantage on this particular aspect... and the Advanced Wireless Lighting system is superb)
- AF fine tunable by user (the same as in the 1D mk III and 1Ds mk III, but unfortunately no present on my 1Ds and 1Ds mk II)
- 14-24 2.8 (seems like a fine lens for PJ work... I love ultra-wide shots, though I'm not sure if 14mm isn't a bit too much considering wide angle distortion)
- D300 (lighter and smaller but still weather-proof, with the same gorgeous LCD... It's a pity that it isn't full frame, but it might be a good choice as a second/third go-everywhere body)
I do have the 16,7 mpixels 1Ds mk II, but it actually is a bit overkill for regular PJ work, so the 12 mpixels of the D3 seem just fine, especially considering that they allow for great pixel pitch and probably low high-ISO noise.
The 1D mk II would be a cheaper alternative, but I really love FF enough to warrant a complete system switch. And I would actually not mind selling all my Canon gear, as I'd been considering selling my current lenses and getting new ones anyway. I'll miss my 70-200 4 IS though... It's the best lens I've ever used optically wise (and I've owned the famous 200 1.8) and there is no Nikkor equivalent.
If I stay with Canon I have three options: stay with my current gear (which I'll have to do 'till the Nikon D3 proves to be as good as the specs seem to hint at), get the 1D mk III (loosing FF, which is a no-no) or going for the 1Ds mk III (though it's only 5 fps and 21 mpixels is really overkill for PJ work).
So, there you go, I might actually go back to Nikon (I was a Nikon shooter in the film days).
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mballent
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Amen brother
They must be kissing both reps 
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You're missing the fact that most probably, this D3 is a 1D Mk III competitor. The 1Ds competitor will be announced next year. With a couple more pixels.
BG
If you look at this link you'll see the hint in the 14th paragraph.
http://www.bythom.com/2007comments.htm
The D3 was designed to compete with the 1DMk3, while what is presumably coming next year, is designed to compete with the 1DsMk3. Personally, I think Canon makes a great camera. I never made the switch because I have a substantial investment in glass and accessories. And besides, I just like Nikons.
Cheers
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Sergio Azenha
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The Canon 70-200 2.8 IS is indeed a good lens, but it's not perfect and I think it's actually worse than the 70-200 4 IS I've been using lately. So much so that I tend to leave my 2.8 IS at home and use the 4 IS.
I've tried the Nikkor 70-200 2.8 VR and I must say it's not worse than the Canon... It might actually be better. It is lighter (1430g vs Canon's 1570g), thinner and more conspicuous (black!).
As for IQ, I don't think Canon is better than Nikon. It's about on par, really. What I do think is that Canon's quality control when it comes to their lenses is not very good, and the proof is that many people have to go through two or three copies of L lens to get a good one. I haven't seen that sort of quality control problems with Nikon, but I may be wrong...
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nunatak
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well, at least the D3 doesn't weigh quite as much as that jug of milk you have on order.
i think the proof is in the pudd'n and we'll need to see what the IQ is like before weighing between the pros and cons of each. personally i'm really curious about whether 21MP will make a substantial difference to my type of consumption or whether it's a case of overkill?
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Vladimir Yanushkevich
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It's really bad news IMHO, though Nikon doesn't have really fast primes so far (might not be an issue).
cameraman12
Senior Member
He's been wrong before.
mcullenphoto
Leading Member
It has ISO 100 as well.
mcullenphoto
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I am, oh wait... I already did.
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