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Yes, it can be difficult. It is particularly difficult on forums where there is a high degree of partisanship. The Sigma forum for example frequently does not accept neutral statements as neutral but regards them as hostile. Sometimes it reminds me of the comments of a colleague from Belfast:

"Everyone is a catholic or a protestant in Belfast"

"So, what if you are an atheist?"

"You're a proddie..."
I can put up with a certain degree of bad grammar; as has been
pointed out, one may not know the background of the individual
concerned and it is of no great import if the meaning is grasped.
However, I cannot forgive that which is all too prevalent within
these forums.
That is, complete misunderstanding of an opinion or point raised,
regardless of how accurately the statement is made.
I would like to believe that I have a good mastery of English but,
frequently, posts of mine are entirely mis-represented by those who
reply, even though I am most careful in my choice of words and
phraseology. Indeed, it is clear that I am far from alone in being
treated this way, as I read replies to other posts.
Whether such is caused by deliberate mischievousness, outrageous
partisanship, or just ignorance, I do not know. Of course I
understand the likelihood of some of this would to be down to
trolling and flaming, but it becomes tiresome when there never seems
to be a single thread without examples to be found.
Perhaps my only recourse (and that of others similarly sinned
against) is to allow the 'offender' one opportunity to grasp and
accept my meaning before reporting them for one of the offences
listed in the posting rules.
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In Britain, "periods" are what women have each month and those dot things at the end of sentences are called "full stops".
Why do so many people confuse "then" with "than", "their" with
"there", "chose" with "choose", and "lose" with "loose"?
The commas belong inside the quotes in the U.S. and outside the
quotes in the U.K. Were you educated in the U.K.?
He at least made no pretense of writing a rant about grammar
nannies... :)

The burden of correctness falls on the nanny....

BTW, in Britain, periods are outside the quote, but commas are
supposed to be inside.

Dave
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Yes, it can be difficult. It is particularly difficult on forums
where there is a high degree of partisanship. The Sigma forum for
example frequently does not accept neutral statements as neutral but
regards them as hostile. Sometimes it reminds me of the comments of a
colleague from Belfast:

"Everyone is a catholic or a protestant in Belfast"

"So, what if you are an atheist?"

"You're a proddie..."
And how true, both of your colleague's attitude and the Sigma forum. When I used Sigma cameras a few years ago I stopped using the Sigma forum, I was embarrassed to be considered part of the rabid fanaticism I witnessed there. Sadly the same attitudes seem to be finding their way into almost all forums these days, even those that were always known for their lack of fanboy mentality in the "old days" of a couple of years ago.

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I'd much rather have someone tell me
I have that piece of spinach in my teeth than pretend it's not there.
Or worse, think it's OK to have it there and not tell me because it
might hurt my feelings. Using a spell checker and reading back over
what you've written are just checking the mirror to make sure you
don't have any spinach caught in your sentences. It's too bad more
people don't do it.
Hear hear!

Having compassion for others means not to judge their grammar or
spelling, but not to condone it either.

The vast majority of people here on DPR who makes obvious spelling
mistakes and obvious grammar mistakes do so out of negligence and a
'I don't care' attitude. This basically shows a lack of respect to
readers and ultimately to yourself.

Come on people, show some self respect, preview your posts before
posting them and get rid of the obvious spelling mistakes and grammar
mistakes.
You mean the way you proofread your message before hitting post?

See, the problem with being so pompous about this is that most people here are not perfect, including those who are seeking perfection.

I really thought you would have learned that from Brian, but no!
 
Sorry I didn't read carefully the first post. I apologize for that.

English is a very easy language compared with Romanian, German or French. It has problems with spelling and pronunciation but the Grammar is quite simple and logical. Being an international language as French and Latin once were it has a variety of versions. Because it's a logical language the mistakes are less fatal for understanding the meaning than for instance the French or Romanian languages.
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You can use that logic to dismiss any concern or complaint.
You can ALSO use that logic to understand there are much more pressing issues in the world.

Roman
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The vast majority of people here on DPR who makes ...
See, the problem with being so pompous about this is that most people
here are not perfect, including those who are seeking perfection.
If criticising a grammatical or spelling error it's sometimes seen as amusing to include an obvious deliberate mistake of your own - but this isn't one of them. Far too subtle to have been deliberate. ;-)

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You mean the way you proofread your message before hitting post?

See, the problem with being so pompous about this is that most people
here are not perfect, including those who are seeking perfection.

I really thought you would have learned that from Brian, but no!
I am open to receive any constructive suggestions Maureen, but you only complained about something in my post. What it is about, however, I have no idea. A complaint without a suggestion is hardly of any use.

Please enlighten me as to where you think I faltered here. Bear in mind, that I used the word 'obvious' in my first post.

Thanks
Jacques

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I think you have got to the heart of things.

Grammar and spelling errors in themselves do not necessarily constitute a barrier to communication and taking a nit-picking attitude to these things can be as bad as the "sin" itself. But, spelling and grammar do have a function beyond mere correctness. It's about how much effort the writer puts into to trying to achieve a meeting of minds with the reader. Good spelling and grammar speak not just of education but also of consideration and respect for the reader and of making the effort to be properly understood.

Too many posts result in fights because the reader did not make enough effort to get a simple point across correctly.
I'd much rather have someone tell me
I have that piece of spinach in my teeth than pretend it's not there.
Or worse, think it's OK to have it there and not tell me because it
might hurt my feelings. Using a spell checker and reading back over
what you've written are just checking the mirror to make sure you
don't have any spinach caught in your sentences. It's too bad more
people don't do it.
Hear hear!

Having compassion for others means not to judge their grammar or
spelling, but not to condone it either.

The vast majority of people here on DPR who makes obvious spelling
mistakes and obvious grammar mistakes do so out of negligence and a
'I don't care' attitude. This basically shows a lack of respect to
readers and ultimately to yourself.

Come on people, show some self respect, preview your posts before
posting them and get rid of the obvious spelling mistakes and grammar
mistakes.

Thank you in advance,
Jacques
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