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I was all set and ready to go, have my D60 ordered and ready for it to be in my hands by Thurday! I shoot landscapes, wildlife, Middle school football during the day, and High School football under the lights. I like to take pictures of Animals at the Zoo and Pets!

Now I am in a Quandry! With all the talk about how the D30 has a hard time getting a focus lock on moving objects and in low light situations I am concerned that I am ordering the wrong camera. From what I read the 1D has a much better focus system equivlent to the 1V! While the resolution might be lower the CCD is larger and the Pixel size is larger and the files are suitible for larger than 8x10 prints. Also from what I am reading the focus screens are interchangeable and the Viewfinder is much brighter and gives you 100% coverage! If I have missed anything here please add to this.

I have a few questions here!

1) I can understand the 1D having more accurate focus if it is a 45 point system but is it any faster?

2) If the motors are in the lenses and the same lenses are used what makes it focus faster?

3) Is the difference only in focus lock speed?

4) How many shots do you really get per battery charge?

5) Did everything you needed for the 1D like the battery charger and software you needed come in the box?

With Nikon you have to buy additional software for the D1x so I am looking for anything that might be left out!

6) If you moved up from the D30 to the 1D is the weight difference really an issue?

7) If you have a gripe about the 1D what would it be?

8) Maybe Phil will answer this one! We saw the side by side comparison in Noise as far as the D60 and D1x is concerned but what about noise compared to the D1?

9) I am talking about a $3200 difference so for me this would most likely be my last camera for many years to come. I am not looking to keep chasing technology and so I am asking those of you experienced with the 1D if you feel this is a camera that someone who is not a Pro could be happy with for a long long time? To help with this I chose the Nikon N70 over the Nikon N90s and I never regretted it.

10) Are there more problems as far as stuck or dead pixels when comparing Cmos to the CCD that is used in the 1D?

All answers weill be appreciated here!

Jason
--Jason Stoller [email protected]

We are just Beta Testers who pay the Camera Companies to test their new products!
 
Jason Stoller said:
1) I can understand the 1D having more accurate focus if it is a
45 point system but is it any faster?
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Yes, it is.
Jason Stoller said:
2) If the motors are in the lenses and the same lenses are used
what makes it focus faster?
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The AF-points are more sensitive, and the CPU used to work the AF-system (including the AI-Servo mode) is much faster.
Jason Stoller said:
3) Is the difference only in focus lock speed?
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In low light, yes, definitely.
Jason Stoller said:
4) How many shots do you really get per battery charge?
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Haven't fully tested that myself. I've heard anywhere from 200 - 400. Depends on which lens, whether it's IS, how often you review images, and whether you conditioned the batteries before use.
Jason Stoller said:
5) Did everything you needed for the 1D like the battery charger
and software you needed come in the box?
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Yes. And the software is actually useful (unlike the stuff that came with the D-30).
Jason Stoller said:
6) If you moved up from the D30 to the 1D is the weight
difference really an issue?
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Not for me, but I had the vertical grip (and two batteries) in use on the D-30. The 1-D is slightly heavier than that, but not noticeable (especially with lenses like the 70-200/2.8 IS attached). If you used the D-30 by itself, and smaller lenses, yes, you will notice the weight difference.
Jason Stoller said:
7) If you have a gripe about the 1D what would it be?
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Too much money!

A lot to learn . . . still learning.

They should've put the AWB sensor on the right side of the camera, not the left. In portrait mode, my hand covers it up. Not a big deal, since I don't use AWB much.
Jason Stoller said:
8) Maybe Phil will answer this one! We saw the side by side
comparison in Noise as far as the D60 and D1x is concerned but what
about noise compared to the D1?
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Go to the 1-D review, and compare there. The 1-D at ISO 1600 is about equal to the D-30 at 800 ISO.

The 1-D also looks sharper than the D-30 did. I think it's due to a less aggressive Anti-Alias filter.
Jason Stoller said:
9) I am talking about a $3200 difference so for me this would most
likely be my last camera for many years to come. I am not looking
to keep chasing technology and so I am asking those of you
experienced with the 1D if you feel this is a camera that someone
who is not a Pro could be happy with for a long long time? To help
with this I chose the Nikon N70 over the Nikon N90s and I never
regretted it.
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I think I'll be happy for quite some time.
Jason Stoller said:
10) Are there more problems as far as stuck or dead pixels when
comparing Cmos to the CCD that is used in the 1D?
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Possibly. I seem to have a few stuck pixels. But I need to investigate further. It's not a big issue, and may only be a problem at high ISO. More to come on that, as I investigate further.

--The Unofficial Photographer of The Wilkinsons http://thewilkinsons.crosswinds.netPhotography -- just another word for compromise
 
Jason Stoller said:
I was all set and ready to go, have my D60 ordered and ready for
it to be in my hands by Thurday! I shoot landscapes, wildlife,
Middle school football during the day, and High School football
under the lights. I like to take pictures of Animals at the Zoo
and Pets!

Now I am in a Quandry! With all the talk about how the D30 has a
hard time getting a focus lock on moving objects and in low light
situations I am concerned that I am ordering the wrong camera.
From what I read the 1D has a much better focus system equivlent to
the 1V! While the resolution might be lower the CCD is larger and
the Pixel size is larger and the files are suitible for larger than
8x10 prints. Also from what I am reading the focus screens are
interchangeable and the Viewfinder is much brighter and gives you
100% coverage! If I have missed anything here please add to this.

I have a few questions here!

1) I can understand the 1D having more accurate focus if it is a
45 point system but is it any faster?
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Yes, it is A LOT faster!!
Jason Stoller said:
2) If the motors are in the lenses and the same lenses are used
what makes it focus faster?

3) Is the difference only in focus lock speed?

4) How many shots do you really get per battery charge?
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I got 420 at a party Saturday
Jason Stoller said:
5) Did everything you needed for the 1D like the battery charger
and software you needed come in the box?
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Yes, but it will still be better when Breezebrowser is updated to work with 1D RAW files.
Jason Stoller said:
With Nikon you have to buy additional software for the D1x so I am
looking for anything that might be left out!

6) If you moved up from the D30 to the 1D is the weight
difference really an issue?
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Not really, if you are using the battery grip on the D30
Jason Stoller said:
7) If you have a gripe about the 1D what would it be?
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Price!!
Jason Stoller said:
8) Maybe Phil will answer this one! We saw the side by side
comparison in Noise as far as the D60 and D1x is concerned but what
about noise compared to the D1?
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From what I have seen, the 1D has the lowest noise of any dc available today. My use verifies this.
Jason Stoller said:
9) I am talking about a $3200 difference so for me this would most
likely be my last camera for many years to come. I am not looking
to keep chasing technology and so I am asking those of you
experienced with the 1D if you feel this is a camera that someone
who is not a Pro could be happy with for a long long time?
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I can't imagine why not, it is an awesome camera.
Jason Stoller said:
10) Are there more problems as far as stuck or dead pixels when
comparing Cmos to the CCD that is used in the 1D?

All answers weill be appreciated here!

Jason

--
Jason Stoller [email protected]
We are just Beta Testers who pay the Camera Companies to test their
new products!
Click to expand...
 
Jason Stoller said:
I was all set and ready to go, have my D60 ordered and ready for
it to be in my hands by Thurday! I shoot landscapes, wildlife,
Middle school football during the day, and High School football
under the lights. I like to take pictures of Animals at the Zoo
and Pets!
Click to expand...
You don't need a 1D to do any of the above. In fact, you can do all of the above with any camera. Even ones with manual winder.
Jason Stoller said:
1) I can understand the 1D having more accurate focus if it is a
45 point system but is it any faster?
Click to expand...
Yes.
Jason Stoller said:
2) If the motors are in the lenses and the same lenses are used
what makes it focus faster?
Click to expand...
The software algorithm.
Jason Stoller said:
3) Is the difference only in focus lock speed?
Click to expand...
In both one-shot AF and AI Servo.
Jason Stoller said:
6) If you moved up from the D30 to the 1D is the weight
difference really an issue?
Click to expand...
Yes. The D30 is already very heavy. Pick up a Canon Rebel G and feel the difference. The 1V is about 5 times (from memory) heavier than the Rebel G.
Jason Stoller said:
7) If you have a gripe about the 1D what would it be?
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Weight, size, and price. The price of this can cover the cost of digital SLR plus a number of film SLR bodies.
Jason Stoller said:
9) I am talking about a $3200 difference so for me this would most
likely be my last camera for many years to come. I am not looking
to keep chasing technology and so I am asking those of you
experienced with the 1D if you feel this is a camera that someone
who is not a Pro could be happy with for a long long time? To help
with this I chose the Nikon N70 over the Nikon N90s and I never
regretted it.
Click to expand...
Once you learnt that the camera is a mean to an end, you won't regret any camera purchase, whether it is a SLR or a pin-hole box.
Jason Stoller said:
10) Are there more problems as far as stuck or dead pixels when
comparing Cmos to the CCD that is used in the 1D?
Click to expand...
There will always be dead-pixels, until they can prefect silicon technology.

Chieh
--Camera Hacker - http://www.CameraHacker.com/
 
I do NOT yet own a 1-d but I have used one and own 2 1v's which are comparable cameras. The autofocus is "state of the art". I touch the shutter button and the subject snaps into focus almost instantly and very accurately. It is better than any human could do manual focus, and I was very very good at manual focus. If you want to shoot high school football, with bad lighting, the iso 1000 limit of the D-60,the autofocus difference, and the faster performance will make the 1-D the camera you will want.
Chieh Cheng said:
Jason Stoller said:
I was all set and ready to go, have my D60 ordered and ready for
it to be in my hands by Thurday! I shoot landscapes, wildlife,
Middle school football during the day, and High School football
under the lights. I like to take pictures of Animals at the Zoo
and Pets!
Click to expand...
You don't need a 1D to do any of the above. In fact, you can do all
of the above with any camera. Even ones with manual winder.
Chieh Cheng said:
1) I can understand the 1D having more accurate focus if it is a
45 point system but is it any faster?
Click to expand...
Yes.
Chieh Cheng said:
2) If the motors are in the lenses and the same lenses are used
what makes it focus faster?
Click to expand...
The software algorithm.
Chieh Cheng said:
3) Is the difference only in focus lock speed?
Click to expand...
In both one-shot AF and AI Servo.
Chieh Cheng said:
6) If you moved up from the D30 to the 1D is the weight
difference really an issue?
Click to expand...
Yes. The D30 is already very heavy. Pick up a Canon Rebel G and
feel the difference. The 1V is about 5 times (from memory) heavier
than the Rebel G.
Chieh Cheng said:
7) If you have a gripe about the 1D what would it be?
Click to expand...
Weight, size, and price. The price of this can cover the cost of
digital SLR plus a number of film SLR bodies.
Chieh Cheng said:
9) I am talking about a $3200 difference so for me this would most
likely be my last camera for many years to come. I am not looking
to keep chasing technology and so I am asking those of you
experienced with the 1D if you feel this is a camera that someone
who is not a Pro could be happy with for a long long time? To help
with this I chose the Nikon N70 over the Nikon N90s and I never
regretted it.
Click to expand...
Once you learnt that the camera is a mean to an end, you won't
regret any camera purchase, whether it is a SLR or a pin-hole box.
Chieh Cheng said:
10) Are there more problems as far as stuck or dead pixels when
comparing Cmos to the CCD that is used in the 1D?
Click to expand...
There will always be dead-pixels, until they can prefect silicon
technology.

Chieh

--
Camera Hacker - http://www.CameraHacker.com/
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Olympus has Pixel Remapping built into the E-20 and upgraded the E-10 in regard to this! How does Canon handle problems with this? Will they take care of it or are you stuck?

Jason
Chieh Cheng said:
Jason Stoller said:
I was all set and ready to go, have my D60 ordered and ready for
it to be in my hands by Thurday! I shoot landscapes, wildlife,
Middle school football during the day, and High School football
under the lights. I like to take pictures of Animals at the Zoo
and Pets!
Click to expand...
You don't need a 1D to do any of the above. In fact, you can do all
of the above with any camera. Even ones with manual winder.
Chieh Cheng said:
1) I can understand the 1D having more accurate focus if it is a
45 point system but is it any faster?
Click to expand...
Yes.
Chieh Cheng said:
2) If the motors are in the lenses and the same lenses are used
what makes it focus faster?
Click to expand...
The software algorithm.
Chieh Cheng said:
3) Is the difference only in focus lock speed?
Click to expand...
In both one-shot AF and AI Servo.
Chieh Cheng said:
6) If you moved up from the D30 to the 1D is the weight
difference really an issue?
Click to expand...
Yes. The D30 is already very heavy. Pick up a Canon Rebel G and
feel the difference. The 1V is about 5 times (from memory) heavier
than the Rebel G.
Chieh Cheng said:
7) If you have a gripe about the 1D what would it be?
Click to expand...
Weight, size, and price. The price of this can cover the cost of
digital SLR plus a number of film SLR bodies.
Chieh Cheng said:
9) I am talking about a $3200 difference so for me this would most
likely be my last camera for many years to come. I am not looking
to keep chasing technology and so I am asking those of you
experienced with the 1D if you feel this is a camera that someone
who is not a Pro could be happy with for a long long time? To help
with this I chose the Nikon N70 over the Nikon N90s and I never
regretted it.
Click to expand...
Once you learnt that the camera is a mean to an end, you won't
regret any camera purchase, whether it is a SLR or a pin-hole box.
Chieh Cheng said:
10) Are there more problems as far as stuck or dead pixels when
comparing Cmos to the CCD that is used in the 1D?
Click to expand...
There will always be dead-pixels, until they can prefect silicon
technology.

Chieh

--
Camera Hacker - http://www.CameraHacker.com/
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--Jason Stoller [email protected] are just Beta Testers who pay the Camera Companies to test their new products!
 
Jason, Jason, Jason - what happened???? You're in big trouble man! Do not get a hold of the EOS 1D. Once you do, a similar affliction to L disease will take over your brain, and the D60 will fade from memory (sorry D60 buyers, please no offense meant).

There is nothing that compares to instantaneous reaction to your eye and finger input on the shutter release. It is not something a stopwatch can really capture. The difference might be only milliseconds, but to your brain, it seems like a lifetime. Also the feel of cold hard metal - sorry, plastic lovers, but there is no comparison for me - this is something the Nikon guys really appreciate. And then there is the sound of the picture being taken - pure precision craftsmanship.

Good luck.
Jason Stoller said:
I was all set and ready to go, have my D60 ordered and ready for
it to be in my hands by Thurday! I shoot landscapes, wildlife,
Middle school football during the day, and High School football
under the lights. I like to take pictures of Animals at the Zoo
and Pets!

Now I am in a Quandry! With all the talk about how the D30 has a
hard time getting a focus lock on moving objects and in low light
situations I am concerned that I am ordering the wrong camera.
From what I read the 1D has a much better focus system equivlent to
the 1V! While the resolution might be lower the CCD is larger and
the Pixel size is larger and the files are suitible for larger than
8x10 prints. Also from what I am reading the focus screens are
interchangeable and the Viewfinder is much brighter and gives you
100% coverage! If I have missed anything here please add to this.

I have a few questions here!

1) I can understand the 1D having more accurate focus if it is a
45 point system but is it any faster?

2) If the motors are in the lenses and the same lenses are used
what makes it focus faster?

3) Is the difference only in focus lock speed?

4) How many shots do you really get per battery charge?

5) Did everything you needed for the 1D like the battery charger
and software you needed come in the box?
With Nikon you have to buy additional software for the D1x so I am
looking for anything that might be left out!

6) If you moved up from the D30 to the 1D is the weight
difference really an issue?

7) If you have a gripe about the 1D what would it be?

8) Maybe Phil will answer this one! We saw the side by side
comparison in Noise as far as the D60 and D1x is concerned but what
about noise compared to the D1?

9) I am talking about a $3200 difference so for me this would most
likely be my last camera for many years to come. I am not looking
to keep chasing technology and so I am asking those of you
experienced with the 1D if you feel this is a camera that someone
who is not a Pro could be happy with for a long long time? To help
with this I chose the Nikon N70 over the Nikon N90s and I never
regretted it.

10) Are there more problems as far as stuck or dead pixels when
comparing Cmos to the CCD that is used in the 1D?

All answers weill be appreciated here!

Jason

--
Jason Stoller [email protected]
We are just Beta Testers who pay the Camera Companies to test their
new products!
Click to expand...
--Zero my hero
 
No way David. The sound of the motordrive firing at full song is incredible. None of that wimpy click-click, with that tinny echo that you get with some cheap SLRs. Like a F1 Ferrari blasting past at 250.
DavidP said:
Zero said:
And then there is the sound of the picture being taken
  • pure precision craftsmanship.
Click to expand...
--
The Unofficial Photographer of The Wilkinsons
http://thewilkinsons.crosswinds.net
Photography -- just another word for compromise
Click to expand...
--Zero my hero
 
At least somebody get's it here. That indeed is the first rule, if you can't afford it DO NOT go and touch one. You will beg, borrow and steal to get one if you do. Once you've shot with one you indeed WILL understand the difference that the word "Professional" truly means. ;-) Like trading in that Camry for a 430 Lexus.
Zero said:
There is nothing that compares to instantaneous reaction to your
eye and finger input on the shutter release. It is not something a
stopwatch can really capture. The difference might be only
milliseconds, but to your brain, it seems like a lifetime. Also
the feel of cold hard metal - sorry, plastic lovers, but there is
no comparison for me - this is something the Nikon guys really
appreciate. And then there is the sound of the picture being taken
  • pure precision craftsmanship.
Good luck.
Jason Stoller said:
I was all set and ready to go, have my D60 ordered and ready for
it to be in my hands by Thurday! I shoot landscapes, wildlife,
Middle school football during the day, and High School football
under the lights. I like to take pictures of Animals at the Zoo
and Pets!

Now I am in a Quandry! With all the talk about how the D30 has a
hard time getting a focus lock on moving objects and in low light
situations I am concerned that I am ordering the wrong camera.
From what I read the 1D has a much better focus system equivlent to
the 1V! While the resolution might be lower the CCD is larger and
the Pixel size is larger and the files are suitible for larger than
8x10 prints. Also from what I am reading the focus screens are
interchangeable and the Viewfinder is much brighter and gives you
100% coverage! If I have missed anything here please add to this.

I have a few questions here!

1) I can understand the 1D having more accurate focus if it is a
45 point system but is it any faster?

2) If the motors are in the lenses and the same lenses are used
what makes it focus faster?

3) Is the difference only in focus lock speed?

4) How many shots do you really get per battery charge?

5) Did everything you needed for the 1D like the battery charger
and software you needed come in the box?
With Nikon you have to buy additional software for the D1x so I am
looking for anything that might be left out!

6) If you moved up from the D30 to the 1D is the weight
difference really an issue?

7) If you have a gripe about the 1D what would it be?

8) Maybe Phil will answer this one! We saw the side by side
comparison in Noise as far as the D60 and D1x is concerned but what
about noise compared to the D1?

9) I am talking about a $3200 difference so for me this would most
likely be my last camera for many years to come. I am not looking
to keep chasing technology and so I am asking those of you
experienced with the 1D if you feel this is a camera that someone
who is not a Pro could be happy with for a long long time? To help
with this I chose the Nikon N70 over the Nikon N90s and I never
regretted it.

10) Are there more problems as far as stuck or dead pixels when
comparing Cmos to the CCD that is used in the 1D?

All answers weill be appreciated here!

Jason

--
Jason Stoller [email protected]
We are just Beta Testers who pay the Camera Companies to test their
new products!
Click to expand...
--
Zero my hero
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Well, it'd be NICE to be able to shoot it at a classical concert. The 1-D would be way too noisy for that. So would the D-30, probably.
Zero said:
No way David. The sound of the motordrive firing at full song is
incredible. None of that wimpy click-click, with that tinny echo
that you get with some cheap SLRs. Like a F1 Ferrari blasting past
at 250.
Click to expand...
--The Unofficial Photographer of The Wilkinsons http://thewilkinsons.crosswinds.netPhotography -- just another word for compromise
 
got to admit, it's true, since I touched one (1D), tested it for short.....
there is no doubt, that's the camera to get.
coubined with the L deseases, it really gets expensive ....

since I shot a lot's of B&W, thinking of a 1V with a rollfeed scanner as a stopgap..... till the 1Ds comes out...... and I would not need to worry about the wideangle aspect with the 1V.... unfortunatly I had to get a new car first ......and it's not a lexus eather ( my boss drives one)...
just hate the scanning,.....
cheers, Robert Schultz
Lee Rothman said:
At least somebody get's it here. That indeed is the first rule, if
you can't afford it DO NOT go and touch one. You will beg, borrow
and steal to get one if you do. Once you've shot with one you
indeed WILL understand the difference that the word "Professional"
truly means. ;-) Like trading in that Camry for a 430 Lexus.
Click to expand...
-- http://www.RobsPhoto.com
 
Zero said:
No way David. The sound of the motordrive firing at full song is
incredible. None of that wimpy click-click, with that tinny echo
that you get with some cheap SLRs. Like a F1 Ferrari blasting past
at 250.
Click to expand...
but i don't want a Ferrari when i drive in the outlands. Loud noise is for show-offs (no that's not targeted at u ;))

likewise, in performing arts photography, you don't want something that makes noise and attract attention to yourself. Same for street photography - you don't want to draw too much attention to yourself! (2 areas where the rangefinder design excels)

--Red Dawn
 
Zero you are right, I am in big Trouble! I already have the affliction to the L lenses because that is the way I am intending to go. At the same time I am reading everything I can get my hands on or find on the web about the 1D now. One of the major concerns is Dust on the CCD. It was indicated in one review that the CCD of the 1D is more prone to dust problems than the D30 is. It is a concern of mine. From what I understand the person that reviewed this on the net said that in the D30 the dust problem was not a big issue but in the week he had the 1D it was.
The other issue which concerns me is banding. Has Canon addressed this issue?
Zero said:
There is nothing that compares to instantaneous reaction to your
eye and finger input on the shutter release. It is not something a
stopwatch can really capture. The difference might be only
milliseconds, but to your brain, it seems like a lifetime. Also
the feel of cold hard metal - sorry, plastic lovers, but there is
no comparison for me - this is something the Nikon guys really
appreciate. And then there is the sound of the picture being taken
  • pure precision craftsmanship.
Good luck.
Jason Stoller said:
I was all set and ready to go, have my D60 ordered and ready for
it to be in my hands by Thurday! I shoot landscapes, wildlife,
Middle school football during the day, and High School football
under the lights. I like to take pictures of Animals at the Zoo
and Pets!

Now I am in a Quandry! With all the talk about how the D30 has a
hard time getting a focus lock on moving objects and in low light
situations I am concerned that I am ordering the wrong camera.
From what I read the 1D has a much better focus system equivlent to
the 1V! While the resolution might be lower the CCD is larger and
the Pixel size is larger and the files are suitible for larger than
8x10 prints. Also from what I am reading the focus screens are
interchangeable and the Viewfinder is much brighter and gives you
100% coverage! If I have missed anything here please add to this.

I have a few questions here!

1) I can understand the 1D having more accurate focus if it is a
45 point system but is it any faster?

2) If the motors are in the lenses and the same lenses are used
what makes it focus faster?

3) Is the difference only in focus lock speed?

4) How many shots do you really get per battery charge?

5) Did everything you needed for the 1D like the battery charger
and software you needed come in the box?
With Nikon you have to buy additional software for the D1x so I am
looking for anything that might be left out!

6) If you moved up from the D30 to the 1D is the weight
difference really an issue?

7) If you have a gripe about the 1D what would it be?

8) Maybe Phil will answer this one! We saw the side by side
comparison in Noise as far as the D60 and D1x is concerned but what
about noise compared to the D1?

9) I am talking about a $3200 difference so for me this would most
likely be my last camera for many years to come. I am not looking
to keep chasing technology and so I am asking those of you
experienced with the 1D if you feel this is a camera that someone
who is not a Pro could be happy with for a long long time? To help
with this I chose the Nikon N70 over the Nikon N90s and I never
regretted it.

10) Are there more problems as far as stuck or dead pixels when
comparing Cmos to the CCD that is used in the 1D?

All answers weill be appreciated here!

Jason

--
Jason Stoller [email protected]
We are just Beta Testers who pay the Camera Companies to test their
new products!
Click to expand...
--
Zero my hero
Click to expand...
--Jason Stoller [email protected] are just Beta Testers who pay the Camera Companies to test their new products!
 
Jason,

Note: I love working with this camera but it does have a few quirks. These comments are designed to provide an option to disenchant you with the 1D. However, do not use one, hold one, look at your pictures from one or none of this will matter:-)

Be careful thinking that the 1D has "more accurate" focusing. It is very fast but (at least on many of them) will only focus to the edge of the DOF and not to the center. Its accuracy is much lower than my A2E. I have found that it does better when allowed to use multiple automatically selected focal points.

The software. It works but is poorly designed and works only within PhotoShop. This is serious shortcoming of the software and is very clunky. It does do a good job, however, of working with RAW files. But it is not well thought out.

What it does not come with. Any memory cards. Make sure you have at least something or you will be sitting there looking at it banging your head.

Also a membership to LA Fitness. It is a heavy beast but very well balanced. I think only the Canon new F1 had a better feel to it. That is an amazing compliment, because I thought that that camera was perfect.

Steven

--'The reasonable man adapts himself to the world, but the unreasonable man tries to adapt the world to him--therefore, all progress depends upon the unreasonable man.' -- Samuel Butler
 
So if the wildlife notice it then is the D30 that much quieter?
This is a consideration for me also!

Jason
Chris K. said:
Regards,
Chris
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Zero said:
DavidP said:
Zero said:
And then there is the sound of the picture being taken
  • pure precision craftsmanship.
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Red Dawn raises a good point here. I could set my E-10, E-20, and E-100 to silent. It did come in handy!

Jason
Red Dawn said:
Zero said:
No way David. The sound of the motordrive firing at full song is
incredible. None of that wimpy click-click, with that tinny echo
that you get with some cheap SLRs. Like a F1 Ferrari blasting past
at 250.
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but i don't want a Ferrari when i drive in the outlands. Loud noise
is for show-offs (no that's not targeted at u ;))

likewise, in performing arts photography, you don't want something
that makes noise and attract attention to yourself. Same for street
photography - you don't want to draw too much attention to
yourself! (2 areas where the rangefinder design excels)

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Red Dawn
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