Some photographers can be such @ssholes.

Hi all,

Some photographers can be such @ssholes.

At this event http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1012&message=24173610

this one sh!t kept on pushing his way forward elbows wide and/or jumping in front of me just as i was framing my shot.

On his own, he managed to ruin nearly 20 shots by jumping straight in front of me.

Like hé man, my shots are more important than yours. Who are you anyway with your Fujicam?

Wanted to plaster his mug all over the net but thought better of it.

Anyway, sorry for the rant.
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Fhotonut:

Maybe your use of the english language and your not-so polite comunication skills made it impossible you the two of you to come to an amiable agreement as to who was going to stand where.
David

I was just asking Danny_only about ettiqette (sorry about the spelling) when he showed a guy sticking his face out on his evening HK harbour shots.

Just show his pictures anyway, i for one wanna see thiss ss hole.

I was tired yesterday and could not find the word, I found it now.
'etiquette', is it originally a french word?

Well that guy was a little impolite, if I were him, I would have looked at both sides, smile a little, used body language to indicate that I might have caused other people some inconvenience. I think he is a tourist, It was okay with me, he took the picture and left quickly, I used him as my photographic subject for compensation:-0

He was the worst I had came across, I had mentioned it either in the Fuji or Panny forum before, during a computer show, while I was taking picture of a beautiful lady model, a physically weak man walked next to me, put his cell phone camera right in front of my lens, I was shocked and turned my head, just before I said a word, I saw LUST, PAIN and JOY in his eyes, which remained me of the animals in mating season who had just lost the fight and mating right (We have National Geographic here) and were dangeruous to deal with, I walked away

Hi fotonut, just forget about that fellow, he is a selfish person, there are many people like that living around us. With the way he was moving around , he could not take good pictures, I guess. BTW, the parade pictures were interesting and enjoyable to view.

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wanting to take photos. I know I get upset when I go on tours and want to take a photo and people keep getting in my way, sure it can get frustrating, but after all you do not own the area so you just have to put up with others. That's part of the game, after all, when you are taking photos are you not getting in the way of others yourself, come on...that's a part of photography.
JD

The redneck in me would make me give the jerk a well placed elbow in the ribs. If he wished to escalate the matter, I would certainly respond in kind. Maybe that isn't politically correct, but as long as we let ourselves be doormats some people will wipe their shoes on us just because they can.
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I know your point wasn't just at photogs, but in this case he had a camera, but overall, it's a human thing...

We were at our 4th of July parade here in town, got there at 9am, several hours early as many people do, and planted "our spot" up front. We had four chairs along the parade route and had the kids on the curb in front of us to catch candy, etc....

We left about 2' between us and the kids for our feet to dangle and for the kids to be able to have some sidewalk space to sit/stand, otherwise they would be forced to go out into the street where the parade was going.

Long story short, we had like 2-3 folks try and walk/stand right in front of our chairs between us and the kids and claim the spot and watch the parade. We were like WTF! Look around folks.....this isn't your "space" today and we're no different than the thousands of other folks doing exactly the same thing, for years even. That's why we get their so dang early.

Human politeness and common sense is lacking at times. They all moved and avoided an argument, but I'm still floored at the ignorance of some folks. I would never just walk in front of a family and go in between their kids, among their camera bags, soda pops and, etc....and block their view or interfere with their set up.

Of course we let other kids all come up front, but then we were there with another couple that had two kids too, and honestly the parade and good times is for them not us. During the parade we must have had 8 kids catching candy and having a blast there. However, I'm not going to have some guy and his buddy just walk in front of us so rudely like that.
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I agree...that's when the New Yorker in me would come out "hey buddy, why don't you find your own spot to take a photo...someplace not in front of my face and camera"

Tom Ki said:

The redneck in me would make me give the jerk a well placed elbow in
the ribs. If he wished to escalate the matter, I would certainly
respond in kind. Maybe that isn't politically correct, but as long as
we let ourselves be doormats some people will wipe their shoes on us
just because they can.
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Old too early.....Smart too late.

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Looks like it was a fun event. I checked the whole set. Some dandy shots you got! Great color and there's a pretty good sense of the atmosphere, minus rude dude Was that him in the second and third shots to the last?

Hard to put a reason on this sort of behavior. It comes in many flavors. I've dealt with a whole bunch of these intentionally rude sorts. What I do to keep the socially disturbed bloke from hampering my composition, and to keep from hurting the little snit, is to simply move down the way a bit.

I agree with ya though, these sorts are very frustrating. The tourist that is consumed in the moment of his photogenic surroundings is overlooked, as can be many other sorts. Those that are intentional in their rudeness, for whatever reason, could use a good pummeling but it's best to change your position, get the shot, and vent about it later. Some day he's gonna get rude with a group of newpaper/magazine photographers and they will have a feeding frenzy on his sorry bum, leaving no evidence of his existence except for maybe a lens cap and sneakers.

Good to see ya still enjoying the 602 Fotonut, enjoyed the pics!

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much agreed.

Try taking some personal use photos at a concert, when the guy in front of you has to put his arm around his date and sway side-to side constantly! He is definitely allowed that- and you will have a heck of a time capturing photos of his head and the show.

Its like this- there is a large uphill ramp to get to the light to turn right onto the freeway.

Most people line up in that right-hand lane- but some just have to go up the left and cut in somewhere as the cars start to move and open a gap. There time is more important.

Funny thing is, that there cane be 3 cars traveling up that ramp at respectable speed instead of the usual 25 lined up. Some people still have to shoot up the left lane and cut 2 of them off- they just don't feel good about themselves unless they beat-out someone else.

Hiya David,

David Reese 522 said:

Fhotonut:
Maybe your use of the english language and your not-so polite
comunication skills made it impossible you the two of you to come to
an amiable agreement as to who was going to stand where.
David

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The noise level was such that one could not hear himself speak let alone communicate anything verbally.

The fact that i gave him the thumbs-up on two occasions when he jumped right in front of me is probably a sign of bad communication skills too.

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Hiya ConanFuji,

Member said:

I was just asking Danny_only about ettiqette (sorry about the
spelling) when he showed a guy sticking his face out on his evening
HK harbour shots.

Just show his pictures anyway, i for one wanna see thiss ss hole.

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I agree, one can keep in mind others are trying to take pics as well. If i see someone with a cam up to his/her eye i stop and let them take the shot, not like some who will walk and even stop right in front of you.

And sorry, allready deleted his mugshot.

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Hiya danny_only,

danny_only said:

I was tired yesterday and could not find the word, I found it now.
'etiquette', is it originally a french word?

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Yes i think it is.

danny_only said:

Well that guy was a little impolite, if I were him, I would have
looked at both sides, smile a little, used body language to indicate
that I might have caused other people some inconvenience. I think he
is a tourist, It was okay with me, he took the picture and left
quickly, I used him as my photographic subject for compensation:-0

He was the worst I had came across, I had mentioned it either in the
Fuji or Panny forum before, during a computer show, while I was
taking picture of a beautiful lady model, a physically weak man
walked next to me, put his cell phone camera right in front of my
lens, I was shocked and turned my head, just before I said a word, I
saw LUST, PAIN and JOY in his eyes, which remained me of the animals
in mating season who had just lost the fight and mating right (We
have National Geographic here) and were dangeruous to deal with, I
walked away

Hi fotonut, just forget about that fellow, he is a selfish person,
there are many people like that living around us. With the way he was
moving around , he could not take good pictures, I guess. BTW, the
parade pictures were interesting and enjoyable to view.

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Thanks for the support and the kind words. A little consideration goes a long way.

And i'm glad you enjoyed the pics. Not easy to shoot halfway decent pics when you can't get away from the crowd.

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Hiya GAREB,

GAREB said:

wanting to take photos. I know I get upset when I go on tours and
want to take a photo and people keep getting in my way, sure it can
get frustrating, but after all you do not own the area so you just
have to put up with others. That's part of the game, after all, when
you are taking photos are you not getting in the way of others
yourself, come on...that's a part of photography.
JD

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Yes it is part of the game, but like i said in a post above, when i see someone about to take a shot i stop and let them. It's just being polite, just plain manners.

You dont shadow someone all afternoon and jump in front at every opportunity.

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Hiya Tom Ki,

Well you what they say about the Dutch. Were supposed to be polite and tollerant.

Tom Ki said:

The redneck in me would make me give the jerk a well placed elbow in
the ribs. If he wished to escalate the matter, I would certainly
respond in kind. Maybe that isn't politically correct, but as long as
we let ourselves be doormats some people will wipe their shoes on us
just because they can.
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Tom Ki said:

Tom Ki said:

Tom Ki said:

If at 18 i knew what i do today - i'd be a rich man. And not only money wise.

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Hiya Tim Lauro,

pdqgp said:

I agree...that's when the New Yorker in me would come out "hey buddy,
why don't you find your own spot to take a photo...someplace not in
front of my face and camera"

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About a million people went to this event. That's quite a lot for a town such as Rotterdam. All crowded into the streets lining the parade, so it is impossible to get a quiet spot.

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Hiya Tim Lauro,

pdqgp said:

I know your point wasn't just at photogs, but in this case he had a
camera, but overall, it's a human thing...

We were at our 4th of July parade here in town, got there at 9am,
several hours early as many people do, and planted "our spot" up
front. We had four chairs along the parade route and had the kids on
the curb in front of us to catch candy, etc....

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pdqgp said:

Of course we let other kids all come up front, but then we were there
with another couple that had two kids too, and honestly the parade
and good times is for them not us. During the parade we must have
had 8 kids catching candy and having a blast there. However, I'm not
going to have some guy and his buddy just walk in front of us so
rudely like that.
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I could'nt agree more. And you put it down better than i could.

Baloon Fest Breda last year. You drive for 2 hours to get there. Get there early and get your spot at hopefully some advantageous point behind the crowd fencing. And still you get unconsiderates climbing the fence and sitting/standing right in front of you. No need to mention i was not pleased. After an argument they moved off.

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Hiya stuart weber,

stuart weber said:

much agreed.

Try taking some personal use photos at a concert, when the guy in
front of you has to put his arm around his date and sway side-to side
constantly! He is definitely allowed that- and you will have a heck
of a time capturing photos of his head and the show.

Its like this- there is a large uphill ramp to get to the light to
turn right onto the freeway.

Most people line up in that right-hand lane- but some just have to
go up the left and cut in somewhere as the cars start to move and
open a gap. There time is more important.

Funny thing is, that there cane be 3 cars traveling up that ramp at
respectable speed instead of the usual 25 lined up. Some people
still have to shoot up the left lane and cut 2 of them off- they just
don't feel good about themselves unless they beat-out someone else.

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I dont even want to go down the traffic route. I think it on the number slot of anoiances here in the NL.

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Hiya Plebian,

Plebian said:

Looks like it was a fun event. I checked the whole set. Some dandy
shots you got! Great color and there's a pretty good sense of the
atmosphere, minus rude dude Was that him in the second and third
shots to the last?

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No, those two guys walked with the parade and were reasonably considerate.

I did take a pic of hem but got so annoyed when i viewed it that the only thing was to hit delete.

Plebian said:

Hard to put a reason on this sort of behavior. It comes in many
flavors. I've dealt with a whole bunch of these intentionally rude
sorts. What I do to keep the socially disturbed bloke from hampering
my composition, and to keep from hurting the little snit, is to
simply move down the way a bit.

I agree with ya though, these sorts are very frustrating. The
tourist that is consumed in the moment of his photogenic surroundings
is overlooked, as can be many other sorts. Those that are
intentional in their rudeness, for whatever reason, could use a good
pummeling but it's best to change your position,

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Well, with about a million people coming to this event (it is the only one of it's kind in the NL) once you have a reasonable spot you just can't get up and find another. If you did try you might as well go home.

Plebian said:

get the shot, and
vent about it later. Some day he's gonna get rude with a group of
newpaper/magazine photographers and they will have a feeding frenzy
on his sorry bum, leaving no evidence of his existence except for
maybe a lens cap and sneakers.

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Hope that happens sooner rather than later.

Plebian said:

Good to see ya still enjoying the 602 Fotonut, enjoyed the pics!

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Yea, still enjoying the 602 and will till it dies. Still think it's an amazing camera or at least, it was in it's hayday. And still learning.

Plebian said:

Lawrence

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I think that is pretty much human nature, of course when people break the rules, they should be told not to climb on barriers and what not, but I have found that politely asking a person to move on works 90% of the time and when it doesn't then that is what the police are for (I'm a former police officer.) As far as that person saying he'll put an elbow in my side, I hope I'm the next one he tries that to because I'll slap a pair of cuffs on him so fast and I'll make sure there are enough charges filed that he will not get out soon, then I'll let my attorney deal with his arrogance. Assaulting somebody is totally uncalled for. But this is pretty much human nature, especially with today's me generation who has to have it all now. Patience is always the best way to go especially in public. I think you handled the situation OK, just have to be careful not to let things get out of hand, like that other who said he'll put an elbow in somebodies side and then deal with it as if nobody can kick his you know what. I know sometimes I get carried away with a scene that I have had to be asked to move out of the way a couple of times. I know its easy to get upset with those who do not care about others and hog the scene and climb over barriers, but its not worth getting hurt over. It's always best to ask them to move on politely and if they do not, find a policeman or park ranger. (That's their job believe me I know.)
JD