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Wow, this forum is really going downhill. I tried to reply to a post using the word cr@p. Apparently this word is too offensive and it gets censored.

What is this forum? I thought this is a place where grown ups talk about photography. Is a word like cr@p not daily common language?
Looks like the overzealous US prudish evangelism is affecting this site now too!

Yuck! What a load of poo!
 
You ask...

Is a word like cr@p not daily common language?

No it is not!

Might I suggest that if you are unable to express yourself in English without resorting to words such as you mention - then perhaps you may need to invest in a dictionary or thesaurus.

Or if you do use it in your own daily language - then perhaps you need to reconsider your daily language :-)

In addition - if this is a word that is acceptable to you - why do you spell it with a @ to replace the 'a'?

Is it because you know it may be offensive and as such may result in your post being deleted?

Brian
 
Brian OReilly said:
In addition - if this is a word that is acceptable to you - why do
you spell it with a @ to replace the 'a'?
Is it because you know it may be offensive and as such may result
in your post being deleted?
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May be this is the reason he posted this thread. He can't use "a" in cr@p. Dpreview gave warning to modify the word before posting.

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Brian OReilly said:
In addition - if this is a word that is acceptable to you - why do
you spell it with a @ to replace the 'a'?
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If you type it as an "a' rather than "@" the site rejects it! This is unbelievable.
 
Guys

Thanks for the clarification on unacceptable words and possible rejection
As I have never had to use such words - I've never had the problem :-)

Surely though - as 'grown ups' we should be able to communicate without using - dare I say it - non mainstream words. After all - there are about 650,000 or so, words available to us in the Oxford English Dictionary

When you need to use the word in question - what meaning are you trying to convey?
Is the product faulty, unacceptable, rubbish, very bad, etc.

Might I also add - that many non-native English speakers are often appalled by the extremely poor grammar, spelling and 'language' used by native English speakers on this site. Perhaps the 'native' English speakers should set a better example...

Brian
 
No idea if Amazon is behind...

I thought there is even a game called cr'a'ps and played at a cr'a'p table, and played in the [beeep] of america.

Well I'm not a native English speaker and im my cuntry (the low one, with lots of dikes) we are not the best spellers.

Strict language rules always give room for creativity.

Michel

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Brian OReilly said:
You ask...

Is a word like cr@p not daily common language?

No it is not!
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Not unless you listen to Chris Moyles in the mornings on Radio 1... I'm actually pretty unhappy with the number of words like cr@p that seem to have become acceptable in normal every day life.

I'm not a prude and I'm only 28 and I do curse on occassion, but why is it seen as acceptable to use swear words on sites that children can access and also in TV and radio programming that children can see or hear?

I think that as Brian pointed out people should find a more descriptive way to say what it is that they are trying to say. People can actually understand what you mean then.

I just realised that this has been bubbling away in the back of my mind while I drive to work in the mornings with the radio on, thinking that my 2 year old might be listening to the same show somewhere else.
 
sorry i was unaware that was a "photography for children" review...

i won't comment on the point of deciding if cr@p is regular english or not as it is not my native language and it is a language that is so widespread worldwide that it seems a bit pointless to have such debates.

but please... i doubt there are many children on the Nikon D1/D2/D100/D200 forum.

if you try to tell me that you bought these for ur kids and that they are too young to hear that kind of language... well nothing personnal but that will be "faulty material, unacceptable, blablabla as you like to say" :p

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Seems to depend where you come from and how offensive the word may be. The c* p word isn't over the top where I come from. My mother (English) hates it, my father (Australian) isn't so worried. Anyway, who gives a s t. It's way off topic.
 
Brian OReilly said:
You ask...

Is a word like cr@p not daily common language?

No it is not!
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Hmmm. My wife moved to the UK, after many years in SA, and was shocked by the common, everyday, use of much more offensive four letter words (there are two in particular) by both genders and in public places.
Brian OReilly said:
Might I suggest that if you are unable to express yourself in
English without resorting to words such as you mention - then
perhaps you may need to invest in a dictionary or thesaurus.

Or if you do use it in your own daily language - then perhaps you
need to reconsider your daily language :-)

In addition - if this is a word that is acceptable to you - why do
you spell it with a @ to replace the 'a'?
Is it because you know it may be offensive and as such may result
in your post being deleted?

Brian
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Surely the point is though, if it causes offence to enough people to make it onto the 'banned word' list, then its just more polite/considerate to use another one? For that particular word there are lots of other more than acceptable ways of getting across your feelings.

This is not a matter of censorship or freedom of speech its just a matter of being considerate to other members and also the people that set the board up and who's rules you agree to before joining. There is a difference between having the right to do something and whether you should.

In real life I swear as much as the next man, but thats with people I know are from a similar background and way of talking I don't do it on forums - because I don't know these people and also I don't need to I have the vocabulary not too (although not always the spelling skills ;) )

I run a busy forum and this crops up regularly. What most people don't understand is as soon as you let some words through it becomes harder to justify not letting other words be used and you spend your time arguing over why one words is not allowed and another is ok and all of this pointless arguing over words that could easily be replaced with others takes all concerned away from the things they should be doing, ie enjoying the hobby, improving the site etc etc.

Those that continue to use words they know to be banned by deliberately miss spelling them, or using 'odd' characters fo nothing but make the problem worse. It shows a complete lack of regard for the site owners and other forum users. Its like saying "I know the rules, I know this word will offend some people, but I'd sooner offend you than use a different word"

Cheers
Chris
 
chrisnetsmithcouk said:
Surely the point is though, if it causes offence to enough people
to make it onto the 'banned word' list, then its just more
polite/considerate to use another one? For that particular word
there are lots of other more than acceptable ways of getting across
your feelings.

This is not a matter of censorship or freedom of speech its just a
matter of being considerate to other members and also the people
that set the board up and who's rules you agree to before joining.
There is a difference between having the right to do something and
whether you should.

In real life I swear as much as the next man, but thats with people
I know are from a similar background and way of talking I don't do
it on forums - because I don't know these people and also I don't
need to I have the vocabulary not too (although not always the
spelling skills ;) )

I run a busy forum and this crops up regularly. What most people
don't understand is as soon as you let some words through it
becomes harder to justify not letting other words be used and you
spend your time arguing over why one words is not allowed and
another is ok and all of this pointless arguing over words that
could easily be replaced with others takes all concerned away from
the things they should be doing, ie enjoying the hobby, improving
the site etc etc.

Those that continue to use words they know to be banned by
deliberately miss spelling them, or using 'odd' characters fo
nothing but make the problem worse. It shows a complete lack of
regard for the site owners and other forum users. Its like saying
"I know the rules, I know this word will offend some people, but
I'd sooner offend you than use a different word"

Cheers
Chris
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Correct and sensible post. (More than can be said for me! :-))
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Tom Moerel said:
Wow, this forum is really going downhill. I tried to reply to a
post using the word cr@p. Apparently this word is too offensive and
it gets censored.
What is this forum? I thought this is a place where grown ups talk
about photography. Is a word like cr@p not daily common language?
Looks like the overzealous US prudish evangelism is affecting this
site now too!

Yuck! What a load of poo!
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On this forum we can call someone a moron, tell them that their mother smells of elderberries, and their father was a hamster, and generally behave in a rude and boorish manner, but we cannot use basic words like cr@p.

Go figure.
 
One can look it up there...
It's hard to hide from rude language, or hide kids from it, respectively.

Swearing does good now and then. Perhaps those who do, should be aware of where and when. I'm saying perhaps...
 
Slough said:
On this forum we can call someone a moron, tell them that their
mother smells of elderberries, and their father was a hamster, and
generally behave in a rude and boorish manner, but we cannot use
basic words like cr@p.
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Exactly! And all i am hoping is that this will not get worse. DPR now being in the hands of Amazon means it is in the hands of a US company. I hope they will not impose the dubious prudish US standards on us. After all this was originally a UK run forum.
But well, as all so many others, it has sold out to some US jokers.

BTW... see how i call it US and not America. There is a good reason: America is the denomination for two whole continents. Calling your country America and thereby discounting a great number of other countries that are also part of the Americas is either ignorant or blatantly arrogant. I just hope that this way of thinking will stay off this forum.

Sorry for the OT subject but i just had to vent some steam.....
 
from one of a cluster of words generally applied to things cast off or discarded (e.g. "weeds growing among corn" (1425), "residue from renderings" (1490s), 18c. underworld slang for "money," and in Shropshire, "dregs of beer or ale"), all probably from M.E. crappe "grain that was trodden underfoot in a barn, chaff" (c.1440), from M.Fr. crape "siftings," from O.Fr. crappe, from M.L. crappa, crapinum "chaff." Sense of "rubbish, nonsense" also first recorded 1898. Despite folk etymology insistence, not from Thomas Crapper (1837-1910) who was, however, a busy plumber and may have had some minor role in the development of modern toilets. The name Crapper is a northern form of Cropper (attested from 1221), an occupational surname, obviously, but the exact reference is unclear.
 
pierre1 said:
from one of a cluster of words generally applied to things cast off
or discarded (e.g. "weeds growing among corn" (1425), "residue from
renderings" (1490s), 18c. underworld slang for "money," and in
Shropshire, "dregs of beer or ale"), all probably from M.E. crappe
"grain that was trodden underfoot in a barn, chaff" (c.1440), from
M.Fr. crape "siftings," from O.Fr. crappe, from M.L. crappa,
crapinum "chaff." Sense of "rubbish, nonsense" also first recorded
1898. Despite folk etymology insistence, not from Thomas Crapper
(1837-1910) who was, however, a busy plumber and may have had some
minor role in the development of modern toilets. The name Crapper
is a northern form of Cropper (attested from 1221), an occupational
surname, obviously, but the exact reference is unclear.
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Thomas Crapper to his friends was known as 'Cr@p'......OOPS Sorry :-)
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