Why is D200 that much noiser than D80?

Started Jun 2, 2007 | Discussions thread
OP egrc Junior Member • Posts: 32
Re: AS a Swede.......... Re: Great First post ...

LilKnytt wrote:

Erik,

as a Swede I have to tell you. Careful with such statements. As far
as I understand the D80 is more of a consumer camera while the D200
is more of a serious amateur to pro camera. The D80 would therefore

I agree.

be geared towards people with less interest in PP. While the D200

If the D200 is noisier than D80, it isn't really different from the situation when D50 arrived and was compared to D70. D70 was the more expensive camera, but the noise levels were worse than D50.
See for example:
http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/nikond50/page17.asp

The image processing was taken a step further with D40, see
http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/nikond40/page25.asp

Signal processing gets better with time as camera manufacturers are doing research, and D80 was released almost a year after D200.

Thus, it is in no way impossible that the noise reduction algorithms differ between the two cameras and maybe is better in D80.
This is ofcourse no proof.

loves to shoot RAW. Much has to do with the settings in the D200,
but it really wants to be in RAW or have the highest quality
settings for jpg.

But ofcourse. But there is some really heavy signal processing going around in moderna cameras. Even the digitized signal from the alleged low noise sensor of the canon cmos in 400D is going through noise reduction.
See:
http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/canoneos400d/page18.asp

I could do this in a far more direct manner in Swedish for you. But
as a D200 shooter you've "ticked me off" & I would be anything but
kind to you. So therefore I'm choosing my words carefully.

In what way? No camera is best in all respects. The D200 stands out as a very good camera in many ways, but noise levels at high iso is not one of them, as for example the review here at dpreview says. At the Canon side, both 5D and 30D are less noisy and 400D seems to be less noisy as well. 5D is nearly twice as expensive and 30D as well as 400D are inferior in almost all aspects but high iso noise.

To me D80 seems a little better than D200 when it comes to noise levels at the same level of detail.

Post examples of how the D80 is superior to the D200 & the forum
will be most happy to work you.

See the pictures at http://www.cyberphoto.se for example. Ofcourse this could be due to a number of reasons, as for example camera settings, and differences in ambient light (which obviously differ in the pictures at http://www.cyberphoto.se ).

But non the less, to me it seems like D80 retains more detail at the same levels of noise reduction. See also the reviews here at dpreview:
http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/nikond200/page21.asp
http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/nikond80/page18.asp

Look at the queens faces at iso800 and iso1600. To me the D80 picture seems to have a little bit more detail and the noise levels are about the same.

But no one will get happier than me if I'm wrong.

Med vänliga hälsningar

Lil

Med vänliga hälsningar,
Erik

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