Candid photos...

thank you all, some very practical advice. The best one "being professional" about things.

THe reason i asked was that I myself am chinese.

Generally people here in HK are weary about their photo taken by others, so I guess if you look like a tourist then it's easier for you to get by taking photos without some sort of hostility or disatisfaction.

so any more favourite candid/street photos to show?

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Steven
17-55DX f/2.8 + 70-200VR f/2.8 Great Combo!
 
There was a story on the news tonight with someone getting charged with murder because he beat a man to death that took his picture without asking him. Happened on the west shore on Oahu in Nanakuli. That's not a very good to be in the first place but sometimes people just don't want their picture taken. Shows his stupidity in that he should have asked the photographer to delete the photograph but I guess he had to prove something.
 
Hi Steven

I, like yourself live in Hong Kong and also find it difficult to take candid photos in the street. I agree with you when you say Hong Kong people are more weary about these things, I think its a cultural thing, as I believe the western culture is more relaxed about things like this.

We should get together to build up each others confidence :-P

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Funkster

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18-70 kit
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I think that's one of those rare occurences that you have a better chance of being hit by lightning twice...Being a bit bold is required to be willing to get spontaneous photos. The guy is this candid is not a threat but I didn't know that at the time.



Pierre
 
I was wondering if anyone has had bad experience or reaction from
people when they find out you are 'snooping' and taking 'secret'
pictures of them (which in fact it is isn't it?). Especially if you
had something like the 70-200VR (with hood) pointing at them.
Don't point 70-200VR at them. Point something less scary (and shorter focal length) so you're in plain sight. If you're not hiding, no one would think you are. But if you ARE hiding - well, it's only natural to notice that, isn't it?
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Steven
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Cheers,

Alex
http://rundadar.smugmug.com
 
Some people will object, there is no getting around it, if you take enough shots.

My only advice: Make sure you are on public property. The WalMart parking lot, for example, is private, not public, property. If you ask for permission, it's not a candid, so don't ask.

And this just came to me, while reading this thread: If you get busted, i.e., the persons you are photographing catches you doing so, immediately lower your lens and gesture towards them as if asking them to move out of the way, giving the impression that they are not the subject. Then thank them when they do so...

--james

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It really depends on what city you live in or are visiting, and of course, every individual reacts differently to having their pic taken, too.

As others have already talked about, people in New York are overall used to it. There's a tourist with a camera or a pro photographer on every-other corner there taking shots of something, so unless you run across a particularly grumpy person (or nut), it's not usually a huge issue there. Likewise in a city like L.A., you have tourists and paparazzi taking photos in every nook and corner, so folks don't usually flinch when they see a camera.

Here in Atlanta people are generally much less friendly to having a camera aimed at them. If you are around the big touristy areas such as the Aquarium, Zoo, or Centennial Park, then you have a lot of folks from all over the world and you can get by with it. But if you go into the heart of downtown, you're mixing it up with local drug dealers scattered around, as well as more rural native southerners, all of whom have this "big brother watching me" hangup thing going on - you're likely to catch an image of a fist about to hit your lens (or bullet) than a face. LOL. So the rule here in most areas is, "ask first".

Everyone I've ever known who has ever gone to HongKong has come back with numerous candid people shots. They stuck to more touristy areas though, and I'm sure like any other place, there are sections of the city where you don't want to take a camera and try it.
 
I recently got busted. Well actually I was @ Meijer (grocery/retail store) here in Indy, was actually shooting flowers in their garden dept. - no problems so far... walked inside the store and started shooting some orchids and other flowers... i had the manager come up to me "Excuse me sir... what are you doing?" me: "just taking some pictures of flowers, is there a problem?" her "Yes, we don't allow photography at our stores, please stop taking pictures", me "ok, no worries, I'll stop". There was no request to delete the pics I already took. I joked with my wife that I should have pointed the camera right at her and started going "Yea baby! Yea!" like Austin Powers...

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I recently got busted. Well actually I was @ Meijer (grocery/retail
store) here in Indy, was actually shooting flowers in their garden
dept.... i had the manager come
up to me "Excuse me sir... what are you doing?" "Yes, we don't
allow photography at our stores, please stop taking pictures", me
"ok, no worries, I'll stop". There was no request to delete the
pics I already took. I joked with my wife that I should have
pointed the camera right at her and started going "Yea baby! Yea!"
like Austin Powers...
You're lucky you got a warning. Most stores here would probably have just sicked the security guard on you.

It's safe to assume that most if not all retail stores do not allow photography in their stores these days. I wanted to take some shots of the garden display at a local hardware store once and I went into the store and asked for permission first. Since I was local and also did a local touristy web site, I told them I'd put the pic on the site and give their store a free ad plug - they then, gave me permission. But if entering a private or chain store, it's best to announce your intensions ahead of time to avoid confrontations like you had.
 
It really depends on what city you live in or are visiting, and of
course, every individual reacts differently to having their pic
taken, too.

Here in Atlanta people are generally much less friendly to having a
camera aimed at them. If you are around the big touristy areas
such as the Aquarium, Zoo, or Centennial Park, then you have a lot
of folks from all over the world and you can get by with it. But
if you go into the heart of downtown, you're mixing it up with
local drug dealers scattered around, as well as more rural native
southerners, all of whom have this "big brother watching me" hangup
thing going on - you're likely to catch an image of a fist about to
hit your lens (or bullet) than a face. LOL. So the rule here in
most areas is, "ask first".
I pretty much agree with your assesment, relative to the ease of street photography in NYC and other large cities. I do however think you overstate the dangers of shooting in downtown Atlanta a bit. Like anywhere, you have to know what areas are safe and which areas aren't. In downtown ATL the Fairly-Poplar district and Peachtree Street corridor are fine. The area right around the Five Points Marta Station can be dicey at times, but usually okay. None of it is particularly safe at night, becuase the streets empty out at 5:00pm. This will improve as more and more people move to the downtown area, though.

I do think it is a good idea to get to know the locals in the areas you plan to mine regularly for photo ops. It's one thing to stroll down 5th Avenue in NYC snapping away, and another thing entirely when you are shooting in a neighborhood area in Atlanta (or any other town for that matter). You need to put the locals at ease and gain their trust if you don't want to be hassled all the time.

I shoot regularly at the commercial center of my neighborhood, Little Five Points. It's a funky gathering place for all manner of funky people, most of who are in their 20s or early 30s. I am over 50, so I tend to stick out in that crowd. But I have been shooting there for years, and the regulars know I am trying to document the unique character of the place so they leave me alone. The youngsters who drive in from the suburbs on the weekend are more likely to give me a hard time, but I just tell them I have lived there for over 20 years and they are in my house; not the other way around! But its all good. I chat them up, show them some photos, and go on my way.

So my suggestion is to own up to what you are doing. Lose the long lenses and get in close. Be real clear in your own mind why you are taking pictures in a particular area, and communicate that to the people you will see regularly. What people don't want is to be treated like some exhibit in a zoo ("hey Ma, there's one of them spikey haired slackers! Quick, get a picure!"). Let the locals know that is not your intent, and everything else will be much easier (you won't need to ask permission for most shots).

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Bob
 
I pretty much agree with your assesment, relative to the ease of
street photography in NYC and other large cities. I do however
think you overstate the dangers of shooting in downtown Atlanta a
bit. Like anywhere, you have to know what areas are safe and which
areas aren't. In downtown ATL the Fairly-Poplar district and
Peachtree Street corridor are fine. The area right around the Five
Points Marta Station can be dicey at times, but usually okay.
I shoot regularly at the commercial center of my neighborhood,
Little Five Points. It's a funky gathering place for all manner of
funky people, most of who are in their 20s or early 30s.
I've never had a problem in Fairly-Poplar (remember they have the festival coming up later this month), but go a few blocks over to Five Points and for some reason I always seem to get that one crazy guy (different guy each time, but one each time) that just HAS to come up and want to play with my camera (or my mind). I don't do the buy-eyed tourist look, either. If anything people ask me if I'm working for the newspaper (ugh), but that's better than being a Disney tourist. LOL

I was just in Little Five Points a couple of weekends ago for the Inman Park Festival (talk about a WIDE variety of people). The older what I guess you'd call "native" panhandlers in that area never bother me - it's the younger street hustler types who start up. Had two ask for money during the festival. I just speak a made-up language and it freaks them out and they walk away thinking, "f-ing foreigner!". LOL

Hey.... look familiar? ;-) (best burgers in town)....

 

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