the polar bear climate change photo

Started Mar 24, 2007 | Discussions thread
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In todays world

Terry Sessford wrote:

44Magpie wrote:

Well, thanks for the view from the far left. Now please go back to
worshipping at the shrine of Clinton/Gore.

Err ... sorry 44Magpie but you seem to have completely misconstrued
Dave's point. He is arguing against the politicization of science

  • the concepts of political 'left' and 'right' are irrlelevant to

science (or should be). Dave's point is that it is those who
disagree with the conclusion that global warming is happening and
that man is responsible for the majority of the warming who are,
sadly, politicizing science, as you have done in your reply. The
fact that global warming deniers are reduced to such irrational
arguments only serves to demonstrate the (scientific) weakness of
their position.

Personally I have no interest in 'left' or 'right' or, indeed, in
Clinton or Gore, but on this issue I have little doubt that Gore is
correct - I would equally say that Bush was correct if he took a
similar stance. Here in the UK it is the leader of the politically
'right' Conservative party who argues most strongly that we should
take urgent action to counter man-made global warming.

Terry.

Thanks for summing up in a more coherent manner my point. But to people like Magpie your comment:

"Here in the UK it is the leader of the politically 'right' Conservative party who argues most strongly that we should take urgent action to counter man-made global warming."

Merely proves that they are secret leftists. If you disagree with the Party Line, you are a leftist. Your previous credentials really don't count.

You're British, so you are unacustomed to dealing with the lunatic fringe as mainstream politics. Here in the US people such as Jim Baker, Ed Meese, and others who wrote the Iraq Study report suddenly became lunatic members of the "Left" when they issued their report.

Mind you, it is difficult to find people more right wing than the above. Yet our media referred to them as "Surrender Monkies."

On the simple question of global warming, you Brits can be rational and even disagree without tossing around political labels to create a mindset where discussion is impossible.

If you go over this thread, three quarters of those saying that the global warming theory is a fraud begin and rest their arguments with an attack on Gore (Clinton) as if the issue is Gore and not science. Indeed, you will get the impression that this question ONLY came about after Gore released his movie.

And it's such a shame that I haven't seen it yet...

Dave

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