the polar bear climate change photo

Started Mar 24, 2007 | Discussions thread
Terry Sessford Senior Member • Posts: 2,497
Re: Well, you are of course a complete fool, so no surprise

Chato wrote:

Ryan McDaniel wrote:

...to see a picture of some polar bears playing on some ice and
think they're there because the north pole melted and they're
dying. Are the people who attend Al Gore's lectures really so
ignorant?

I know, I know...dumb question. If they're attending an Al Gore
lecture....

The Polar Bear is now threatened by global warming, or if YOU
choose you can come up with any reason at all - nonetheless ALL
those who study the Polar bear say it is in danger of disappearing.
Dumb photograph or not, such is the case. Drowning was never the
issue in this photograph and the people who released it never
claimed that. The issue for Polar Bears is very simple, open water
is not freezing at the normal times, and the bear, dependent on
hunting seals, are starting to starve to death. This is only a
minor symptom of the greater problem/

The rest of your argument is nonsense as well. It rests on the
Stalinist premise of science being a total product of politics -
in YOUR case, Liberal or Conservative "science."

Twenty years ago, according to YOUR reasoning most scientists were
Conservative because they doubted that global warming, even if
occuring, was caused by human activity. Now, once again according
to you, they have decided to become "liberal" and back the idea
that not only is global warming occurring, but it is human made.

All and I mean ALL climatologists, with the exception of a handful
of cranks, have now proven the above. Your evidence doesn't exist,
it was made up complete out of the kind of fantasies that one gets
from being addicted to Rush Limbaugh and Bill O'Reilly.

Recently I read a column propounding your beliefs at NewsMax.com.
The columnist stated that this was one of the most brutal winters
on record, and how dare these clowns claim that global warming was
occuring. Of course, it's one of the warmest on record, and the
writer wrote during a legitimate cold snap. How touching.

NB.

The bottom line of your post is that only Neocons are honest,
liberals always lie and make things up. And since you disagree with
the worlds scientists, ergo, they are liberals putting forth a
"liberal agenda."

(I will pause and point out that the majority of Conservatives,
while I may disagree with them, do not hold this appalling world
view. This is strictly a Neeocon thing, which is the same as saying
a fringe element thing...)

Much the same argument is used for everrything - and no matter how
often you clowns are proved wrong, it doesn't disturb your
reasoning one bit. Whether WMD's in Iraq, or Polar Bears facing
extinction, it's all part of the Great Liberal Plot to destroy the
world. And whether the source is actually a Conservative or a
Liberal, they MUST be really liberals. "Surrender Monkies," or
"Alarmists or "traitors." And they are that because of course
they've proved to be right.

Dave

44Magpie wrote:

Well, thanks for the view from the far left. Now please go back to
worshipping at the shrine of Clinton/Gore.

Err ... sorry 44Magpie but you seem to have completely misconstrued Dave's point. He is arguing against the politicization of science - the concepts of political 'left' and 'right' are irrlelevant to science (or should be). Dave's point is that it is those who disagree with the conclusion that global warming is happening and that man is responsible for the majority of the warming who are, sadly, politicizing science, as you have done in your reply. The fact that global warming deniers are reduced to such irrational arguments only serves to demonstrate the (scientific) weakness of their position.

Personally I have no interest in 'left' or 'right' or, indeed, in Clinton or Gore, but on this issue I have little doubt that Gore is correct - I would equally say that Bush was correct if he took a similar stance. Here in the UK it is the leader of the politically 'right' Conservative party who argues most strongly that we should take urgent action to counter man-made global warming.

Terry.

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