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Started Feb 17, 2007 | Discussions thread
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Re: Another history lesson, Pete:

LOL. You're barking up the wrong tree again. And Nikon has developed many things that they've fumble. Have you ever stopped to consider that it's because they didn't do it well? Let's not forget that they were first to develop IS/VR as well. But sometimes, it's not a matter of just doing it first, but executing it well and making it successful. Maybe they just couldn't get fluorite to work for them. That doesn't mean that Canon suffered the same fate. In fact, Canon has enjoyed a completely different result. But the point is, there is a small segment of the population who still choose to argue that fluorite is inadequate, when the market has clearly proven otherwise. The proof is in the pudding. In fact, if we wait for the upcoming 2008 Olympics, we'll likely see quite a lot (probably the overwhelming majority) of Canon fluorite lenses filling the sidelines. If you want a collective laugh, you can walk up to that horde and tell them that the fluorite elements in those lenses are too delicate and fragile to hold up to the usage that they are at that very moment being used for!!!

T'Pol wrote:

T3 wrote:

Probably the more
likely reason is that Canon developed the process to grow the
fluorite crystals, and Nikon didn't.

You may be surprised to learn, Pete, that Nikon have been using
fluorite since the 1960s in their microscopes and the odd
micro[macro] lens. Once they developed ED glass in the 70s, they
discontinued the use of Fluorite in all but microscopy where it is
still used to this day, produced [grown] in-house at Nikon's
fluorite facility.

Clearly then, Nikon have had the ability and technology to produce
fluorite lenses for over 40 years. They just choose not to use them
in their long teles due to fluorite's widely known drawbacks of
being susceptible to higher thermal changes in it's refractive
index [hence the white lenses], thermal and physical shock. Whether
or not these drawbacks often present themselves in ordinary lens
use is moot. They exist, and companies have to assess these
drawbacks on their merits. Nikon choose to avoid fluorite in camera
lenses, Canon choose to embrace it.

I wonder what drawbacks Canon see in providing modern battery
technology to the 1-series? Or adding GPS support to the
1-series/xxD series?

Once again you've tried to declare that Nikon do something because
they can't do what Canon does, rather than because it's just better
if they hadn't. And once more, you've been shown to be talking from
where the sun don't shine.

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