What's the difference between the T and W series?

Brian14852 · Dec 31, 2006

Could someone tell me what the differences are betwee the T series, like T10 and T30, vs. the W series, like the W30, 50, 70 and 100?

A friend brought over his W30 tonight and even though we only compared a few common shots between it, my old Canon S30 and a Fuji F30 that I borrowed from my sister, I thought the W30 was better than the Fuji.

I also can't help but wonder why there are no indepth reviews on this site of these ultra compact Sony's.

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Hutchman · Dec 31, 2006

I can't tell you the difference. I doubt anyone here can tell you the difference between so many cameras. Pick two and maybe someone can help, but 4 or five Sony's, some Cannons and a Fuji H E L P. Why not throw in a Kodak, Pentax and "Uncle Tom Cobly ande all"--
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Brian14852 · Dec 31, 2006

John,

You either misread my question or I did a bad job explainig.

My question isn't what is the diffeences bvetweem all those cameras but rather what is the difference between the Sony W and T lines? They both appear to be ultra compact in design so what's the difference(s)?

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Hutchman · Dec 31, 2006

Sorry Brian I did misunderstand your request. Sorry I am an H Series guy and can not help you.

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willvan · Dec 31, 2006

Brian, I believe the main difference is that the W series are classified as compacts and the T series are classified as sub compact. The T's except for T30 are quite a bit smaller and the lens does not extend. I think they refer to it as a folded lens. In some of the W series you can use add on lenses and some of them have more manual controls. The camera section of this site will under "Buying" has a compare section where you can enter several models and it will give you details of sizes, features etc.

Hope this helps.

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R2D2 · Dec 31, 2006

The "new" W-Series will take pretty darn good pics, but my heart lies with the T-Series.
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Phreddy · Dec 31, 2006

Brian said:
Could someone tell me what the differences are betwee the T series,
like T10 and T30, vs. the W series, like the W30, 50, 70 and 100?

A friend brought over his W30 tonight and even though we only
compared a few common shots between it, my old Canon S30 and a Fuji
F30 that I borrowed from my sister, I thought the W30 was better
than the Fuji.

I also can't help but wonder why there are no indepth reviews on
this site of these ultra compact Sony's.

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If you go to the "Cameras" area instead of the "Forums" there is an option of "side by side" where you can select several, or one W series and one T series, and the specs will show in similar columns. That should point out any differences.

Brian14852 · Jan 1, 2007

Thank you for the replies, I will check the comparison option.

Both series looked ery small to me ut in looking further they do call the T series "ultra compact" and the W series "compact".

The T series seems to be quite a bit more expensive, I do wonder if the cost is in making the camera smaller.

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R2D2 · Jan 1, 2007

Brian said:
The T series seems to be quite a bit more expensive, I do wonder if
the cost is in making the camera smaller.

Definitely part of it. There's also nothing conventional about the cameras (increases cost too). I think the T10 can be had for about $300 nowadays.

I love the Image Stabilization (I have the T9). It cannot be overstated how important I find this feature.

1/6 second hand-held...

The "magnifying Glass" mode (super macro) is astounding...

Colors are wonderful...

Focus is fast and accurate...

High ISO is usable in a pinch (when run through Noise Ninja et al)...

Did I mention the I.S.?

Notice how I'm holding the camera! The baby bunny was all of 3 inches head to tail, and had just come out of the nest that day.

The flash is very limited however (about 12 ft max). And you'll need to correct for Redeye in every shot. You also run into the possibility of flash-illuminated Dust Bunnies if the air is dusty.

I hardly ever use flash, so that isn't a factor in my choice of cameras, but it may influence your choice.

Cheers,
R2

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y3knik · Jan 1, 2007

i think they are both p and s cameras focused towards people who want to take pictures without bothering about the mechanics.

the difference is in the shape.

the w series are as big as 2 decks of cards stacked on top of one another and the t series is around half a deck thick.

i don't believe there is any other substantial difference
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busch · Jan 1, 2007

With images like that I am wondering why Sony makes any other model! I'm darn impressed, R2!

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Brian14852 · Jan 1, 2007

Great pictures R2; when I see pictures like that I realize we can get too caught up in which camera is best.

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Brian14852 · Jan 1, 2007

y3knik said:
i think they are both p and s cameras focused towards people who
want to take pictures without bothering about the mechanics.

the difference is in the shape.

the w series are as big as 2 decks of cards stacked on top of one
another and the t series is around half a deck thick.

In looking at their dimensions listed on this site, they are much closer in size than you list, in fact they are darn near the same. I don't see why why one is listed "ultra compact" and "compact".

Looking at them side-by-side the T series does have more to them than the W series.

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inframan · Jan 1, 2007

That last one (bunny's eye) s/b on a billboard in Times Square!
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DapperSquirell · Jan 1, 2007

The big differences seem to be image stabilzation and optical viewfinder. Both are significant. One of these days I'll spring for a W100, just to have a constant carry around on my belt. If it has IS I'd probably have bought one by this point.

Of course, I need another Sony digicam like a hole in the head! I need to to make good use of the ones I already own
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GHB · Jan 1, 2007

I never tire of seeing that baby shot. Beautiful photograph.
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kellymac60 · Jan 1, 2007

Those are impressive! Love the baby photo. Very warm color. All good stuff.
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R2D2 · Jan 1, 2007

Brian said:
Great pictures R2; when I see pictures like that I realize we can
get too caught up in which camera is best.

Yeah, the cameras nowadays are so good that it becomes a matter of personal preference. Some cameras can do this, some can do that... Admittedly, the F30 that you mentioned (F31 now) is said by many to be the king of low light compact cameras (though it's substantially larger than the W and T Series). If it had IS, I'd be very tempted.

The key is to find the best fit for how and where you will be taking pictures. Personally, I'll never be without a T-Series. I love the size, the IS, and the Super Macro capability to name a few of its qualities (can you tell I'm a macro nut!). It doesn't have any manual exposure controls, but Program Mode almost always selects the same settings that I would have anyway.

But the W-Series is also quite capable. And better at flash pics (and cheaper). It's also now a lot more compact than previous W-Series cams.

These little cameras are not an end all, be all though (I still need my H5 and DSLR for much of my shooting). But as a "carry everywhere" camera to just slip in your pocket, I love 'em.
R2

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montmorency · Jan 2, 2007

DapperSquirell said:
The big differences seem to be image stabilzation and optical
viewfinder. Both are significant. One of these days I'll spring
for a W100, just to have a constant carry around on my belt. If it
has IS I'd probably have bought one by this point.

I would have thought that another obvious difference is that the maximum aperture of the W series is 2.8, compared with 3.5 for the T series, because, I assume of extending-lens, versus folding lens.

The first in the W series, the W1 was somewhat V1-like in appearance, look and feel, but with less manual control, & without some of the features. However, it was pocketable, which the V1 barely was.

Some of us had hoped that the V1 successor would be about the size of a W1, but it was not to be.

I was slightly surprised when they started slimming down the W series (and losing the ability to use AA batteries :-( ). It seems to have moved into T-series territory, rather than "sub-V1" territory.

A camera with the power of the V3, in the size and shape of the W1 could have been really useful. It is a shame it never happened, and now seems unlikely to happen.

I think the T-series is just too small for a lot of people; the slimmed down W-series is too much in the same direction. The original W-series size was great from the handling point of view, and was "compact enough", IMHO.

Regards,
M.

Brian14852 · Jan 2, 2007

All very good points R2. I honestly don't know what I'll end up, I am all over the map. Like you, I really like the idea of having IS and agree that it is too bad Fuji didn't include it on the F30 and F31.

One minute I am on the small camera bandwagon, where I started, thinking about the Canon SD800 IS and the next I am intrigued by the Nikon D40 and anywhere inbetween!

It is too bad the W series doesn't have IS.

When my friend brough over his W30 the other day, we hooked it to my PC via the USB cable and I was able to pull pictures from it by simply going into Windows Explorer and selecting it just like an extrernal driver, I didn't need any (Sony) software to access the pictures. Can someone tell me if other camera manufacturers allow the same? That was slick!

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