$1299 for Canon 5D?

I really don't understand how such scam stores can keep working in the US - don't you have laws to protect the customers? Judging from the posts here on DPR there is and endless list of these stores. In Denmark where I live that kind of stuff would quickly be shut down. Poor souls that gets ripped off, just because they are beginners in this jungle.
the $1299 might be for a used one. But then again, not many people
selling their 5D's at the emoment so it's probably a con.
$300 for the battery, $250 for the charger, $300 for the manual and
discs.
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  • Jan
 
Funny these people doesn't even check what they write on their web stores... Wonder if anyone falls for the scam, and sits at home trying to mount their brand new optics onto their brand new camera, and having some difficulties, because they doesn't seem to fit properly together...?
Their "basic" package comes with the 18-55mm EF-S lens, which of
course, will not fit on a 5D. Does that tell you anything?
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  • Jan
 
What Gordon Walker described is what probably will happen.

You call up and order a 5D at $1,300. The salesman is a bit pushy, with the $300 batteries, and how you really need two or three of them so they don't cut out while you're taking a picture, plus $200 for insured delivery, and if you want there's a $600 warrenty add-on... They won't sell you a 5D if you don't buy all this stuff that ultimately pushes the price up into the $4,000 range, but they'll take your order, and bill your card right away.

So, a week later, you've been charged, but you still don't even have a tracking number, let alone the camera you ordered. You call them up, and they tell you they're out of stock, but they're expecting a shipment later today. You call back a day or two later, and get the same story, or put on hold for an hour. Now the game is how long can they hold onto your money before they have to issue a refund.

Interest on $1,300 for half a month isn't that much ... but if they snare a hundred gullibe customers, it's not so bad. Not a whole lot of work involved.

The laws were designed to protect the customer, but can be worked around. What I just described is clearly illegal if it's a pattern, but if a tragic commedy of errors like that happened at a mom and pop store, once in 60 years, then it's not illegal.

The difference is obvious, but what it takes to shut a scam artist down is for enough would-be customers to complain to the right people, and either the attorney general to shut them down ( like MSFT & Spitzer have been with a few spammers ) or for enough lawsuits to bankrumpt the scammers. And then half of them start up under a new business name.

PT Barnum said "There's a sucker born every minute," and Darwin said "There's a bottom-feeder born every minute to latch onto the sucker."
the $1299 might be for a used one. But then again, not many people
selling their 5D's at the emoment so it's probably a con.
$300 for the battery, $250 for the charger, $300 for the manual and
discs.
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It's an L of a life, this photography lark

http://gordon-walker.fotopic.net/
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  • Jan
 
Especially if you're getting along the $400 NoName High Speed 1GB CF Card!

And the $200 Pro Charger and the $200 battery, along tasty (not to mention recommended) 5 Yr extended warranty (one needs to protect such an investment) for only $730. But since you're such a good customer we'll sell you the the 5yr warranty for the price of the 3yr one at only $550.
Yummy !!!

It is probably a bait and switch scam...
Cheers!
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Bogdan

Life is beautiful
 
Over here in the cold windy Scandinavia this scheme would be considered 100% illegal and fraud without any doubt, first of all because the information on the web page is misleading. And judging by the amount of complaints on e.g. http://www.resellerratings.com/ there is a large amount of people getting cheated - that activity is clearly against the law. But the "There's a sucker born every minute" is also valid here unfortunately... we just had a case with a web store selling PC equipment, which had a nasty tendency of never delivering anything - took over a year to close them down. You are totally right - such people which are running these web sites will just pop up under a different name, unless their windows gets decorated with bars.
You call up and order a 5D at $1,300. The salesman is a bit pushy,
with the $300 batteries, and how you really need two or three of
them so they don't cut out while you're taking a picture, plus $200
for insured delivery, and if you want there's a $600 warrenty
add-on... They won't sell you a 5D if you don't buy all this stuff
that ultimately pushes the price up into the $4,000 range, but
they'll take your order, and bill your card right away.

So, a week later, you've been charged, but you still don't even
have a tracking number, let alone the camera you ordered. You call
them up, and they tell you they're out of stock, but they're
expecting a shipment later today. You call back a day or two
later, and get the same story, or put on hold for an hour. Now the
game is how long can they hold onto your money before they have to
issue a refund.

Interest on $1,300 for half a month isn't that much ... but if they
snare a hundred gullibe customers, it's not so bad. Not a whole
lot of work involved.

The laws were designed to protect the customer, but can be worked
around. What I just described is clearly illegal if it's a
pattern, but if a tragic commedy of errors like that happened at a
mom and pop store, once in 60 years, then it's not illegal.

The difference is obvious, but what it takes to shut a scam artist
down is for enough would-be customers to complain to the right
people, and either the attorney general to shut them down ( like
MSFT & Spitzer have been with a few spammers ) or for enough
lawsuits to bankrumpt the scammers. And then half of them start up
under a new business name.

PT Barnum said "There's a sucker born every minute," and Darwin
said "There's a bottom-feeder born every minute to latch onto the
sucker."
the $1299 might be for a used one. But then again, not many people
selling their 5D's at the emoment so it's probably a con.
$300 for the battery, $250 for the charger, $300 for the manual and
discs.
--
It's an L of a life, this photography lark

http://gordon-walker.fotopic.net/
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  • Jan
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  • Jan
 
I called Expresscameras.com and the price is AFTER the rebate...the camera is $700 more...$2799....duh.

Broadway Camera has a great scam going too. You call and order and ask all the right questions then they call to confirm the order and tell you the salesman was stupid and made a mistake and that the camera is $2699 for the USA version cause you're going to get one made for Italy or Germany and no warranty in the states...website wrong...and the battery you need is lots of money because the battery that comes with the camera lasts 20 minutes. When I said I wanted to research that as the 20d battery is the same, he challenged me that I didn't trust him. And I told him I didn't trust him, that was correct.

What a scam. If I'm going to pay through the nose, I'lll buy from someone who at least is going to kiss me goodbye and mean it.
 
I always love to see those people who think they got a steal deal in hand. (Especially those 50%+ off online deals)

Then what we will see in a few weeks is that, those people came back crying like babies and tell the story how they lost their money. Isn't this great? You paid what you get; You paid a small amount of money and you will get some education on buying.

Those stores exist for their reasons, and from my point of view, they are more like educational institues to those dreaming buyers.

Sit tide and watch. People ask those questions because they are naive and didn't do their hw prior buying. If they have done some researches online, they could easily avoid those.
 

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